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Nov 12, 2017 08:26:38   #
Mochaman Loc: Wilmington, NC
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Sounds to me like you have made your decision, the D500. I own both cameras. I bought the 7D II when it first came out and I purchased the D500 about 15 months ago. I like and use both cameras for shooting wildlife. I use the Canon on a tripod with a Sigma 150-600 Sport lens and the Nikon I shoot handheld with a Nikkor 200-500 lens.


No absolute decision yet - still gathering information and insight from these great replies. Altough these posts can be considered 'opinions', I consider many of them "informed opinions" an appreciate every reply - whether anectodal or chock full of details.... many of which I'm still researching!! :-)
thanks......

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Nov 12, 2017 08:58:46   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Both weigh too much look at a sony

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Nov 12, 2017 09:01:34   #
Japakomom Loc: Originally from the Last Frontier
 
Go to Southeastern Camera - there is one in Wilmington. You can see and feel the cameras and all your questions can be answered.

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Nov 12, 2017 09:22:41   #
williejoha
 
Sounds to me like YOUR research gave you the answer. You have to be happy with your choice. If you have a camera store near you, go and handle each model and see if your research gave you the right answer. Good luck.
WJH

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Nov 12, 2017 09:22:49   #
DMGill Loc: Colorado
 
I’ve been shooting Nikons since 1968 by suspect you cannot go far wrong with any of the cameras in the Canon or Nikon systems. I upgraded from. D300 to a D500 earlier this year and went back to my camera store a week later to get a D500 to replace my wife’s D300S. The quality of the D500’s images is spectacular and the ability to track a moving subject while shooting at 9 frames a second is amazing. The 18-200mm lens is a great all purpose lense and had been my choice for hiking for years. It isn’t as sharp as some lenses with less versatility, but it comes as close to doing it all as any lens I’ve used. It’s sharp enough, light enough, and very reasonably priced. It’s only serious weakness is it isn’t a fast lens so low light is not its strong point, but the high ISO capability of the D500 and the 18-200’s vibration reduction capabilities go a long way to making up for this.

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Nov 12, 2017 09:34:28   #
EdU239 Loc: The Northeast
 
Mochaman wrote:
Hi ALL,
I am new to this forum, done much reading although have made a few posts – thank you for the wealth of information, the gift of sharing your combined knowledge, experiences and passions!

Being an ‘amateur re-tread’ – someone who’s been in and out of this hobby (livelyhood for others) now retired and willing to start again.
My first camera was an Army PX purchased - Mamiya-Sekor 1000DTL, today I am looking at two cameras, Nikon D-500 and Canon 7D – MKII.
To this end I look to this forum – not to decide for me, but to add to/ provide a ‘tipping point’ for my final decision.
Not a professional and not able to spend $5K+ to snap (in order of priority) wildlife, action and land/cityscaping photos, my choices have been narrowed down to these two, non FF cameras and lens families.

Here’s what I know (or think I do):
•Both cameras are ‘closely’ matched in specs, with Nikon D500 newer and having slightly better resolution capable of providing a sharper image (?), and Nikon has a higher ISO range (more noise)??!!

•Lenses for consideration are 18-200mm and 200-500mm. Tests and user’s results garnished from this forum and various links indicate both manufacturers produce comparable quality lenses at comparable prices- I hope to obtain the widest overlapping focal ranges with the least amount of equipment to carry around.

•Both have Wi-Fi ability: Nikon’s is built in, Canon requires a card slot and external adapter. I want to remotely see and snap the subject appearing in the viewfinder

•Nikon has an articulating, touch screen - Canon does not…. I feel both features are assets

•Regardless of choice, I must “RTFM” to gain command of the multitude of features as well as the confidence to know how to use & apply them. I am in awe of so many high quality photos that I see so often on this forum!

I am leaning toward Nikon D-500 for a few reasons, but my tipping point is – of all things – the wi-fi feature as I want to shoot in raw and jpeg, but NOT at the expense of an SD slot for wi-fi.
However, I’m uncertain if wi-fi feature of both cameras performs as I believe - Ability to 1) transfer/share photos to phone and beyond, 2) remotely view and snap the subject.
Wi-fi is a key consideration.... but, not at the expense of the 'end product'.... hence conundrum.

So, I’m turning my research/ beliefs/ assumptions and subsequent questions over to you all:
Am I in the ball park – have I correctly dissected the technical information properly?
Based on my beliefs that both cameras are somewhat/closely match optically and feature-wise, what have I failed to consider?

At the end of the day, I’m not looking for, nor desire a Nikon-Canon bashing contest – I realize both manufacturers have dedicated ‘camps’…. I’m looking for that ‘tipping point’ – if it exists.

Sorry for the long post.
Paul Winter
Hi ALL, br I am new to this forum, done much re... (show quote)


I would recommend renting both at the same time so you can do a direct comparison. Of course that adds to the overall cost, but you’re buying fairly expensive equipment so it comes out to a fairly small marginal increase. Someone else mentioned LensRentals and I would add BorrowLenses. I have used both and in my experience both provide excellent service. If you search online you might find someone closer to you.

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Nov 12, 2017 09:40:12   #
Girl with A Canon Loc: Myrtle Beach,SC
 
Hi Paul First welcome to the group and second happy retirement. I will tell you up front I am no pro nor do I have the vast knowledge of many of the others. But what I do have are a couple of Canon cameras. I started with the SX40 and had a chance to buy a 7d from a professional whom belong to a club I went to. I got some L series lenses for it. Then I wanted something a little lighter so I got the Rebel T4i and the lenses I had all fit. Next I had a chance to go to Africa and saw that if I took either camera I would need a much longer lens. That is when the SX50 came out so I ordered it from B&H. Have to brag on that little camera as I got shots that no one else got because of its zoom. But then last year I wanted something newer then the Rebel. The 7d and the lenses were getting heavier and heavier for me at my age to carry. So with the help of all the wonderful people on this sight I ended up with the new Canon 80D. It is a great camera I just love it and all the rest just sit in the closet now. I am friends with a man that promotes Tamron lenses Mike Moats. I asked him about them as on the Web I see his work. So I ordered the Tamron 16-300mm and it lived on my camera till I just got the new 18-400mm. All my Canon lenses are also sitting in my closet. As we get older weight becomes a issue so think of that. I love photography and I have no intention of making money on it. I just share my work with all my friends on Facebook. So while you are checking out everything else look at weight and think to I want to spend all that money like that crazy Girl with a Canon did?

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Nov 12, 2017 09:42:20   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I put more emphasis on artistic vision than I do on equipment. Without it, the gear is just so much weight to carry around.

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Nov 12, 2017 09:44:32   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Mochaman wrote:
Hi ALL,
I am new to this forum, done much reading although have made a few posts – thank you for the wealth of information, the gift of sharing your combined knowledge, experiences and passions!

Being an ‘amateur re-tread’ – someone who’s been in and out of this hobby (livelyhood for others) now retired and willing to start again.
My first camera was an Army PX purchased - Mamiya-Sekor 1000DTL, today I am looking at two cameras, Nikon D-500 and Canon 7D – MKII.
To this end I look to this forum – not to decide for me, but to add to/ provide a ‘tipping point’ for my final decision.
Not a professional and not able to spend $5K+ to snap (in order of priority) wildlife, action and land/cityscaping photos, my choices have been narrowed down to these two, non FF cameras and lens families.

Here’s what I know (or think I do):
•Both cameras are ‘closely’ matched in specs, with Nikon D500 newer and having slightly better resolution capable of providing a sharper image (?), and Nikon has a higher ISO range (more noise)??!!

•Lenses for consideration are 18-200mm and 200-500mm. Tests and user’s results garnished from this forum and various links indicate both manufacturers produce comparable quality lenses at comparable prices- I hope to obtain the widest overlapping focal ranges with the least amount of equipment to carry around.

•Both have Wi-Fi ability: Nikon’s is built in, Canon requires a card slot and external adapter. I want to remotely see and snap the subject appearing in the viewfinder

•Nikon has an articulating, touch screen - Canon does not…. I feel both features are assets

•Regardless of choice, I must “RTFM” to gain command of the multitude of features as well as the confidence to know how to use & apply them. I am in awe of so many high quality photos that I see so often on this forum!

I am leaning toward Nikon D-500 for a few reasons, but my tipping point is – of all things – the wi-fi feature as I want to shoot in raw and jpeg, but NOT at the expense of an SD slot for wi-fi.
However, I’m uncertain if wi-fi feature of both cameras performs as I believe - Ability to 1) transfer/share photos to phone and beyond, 2) remotely view and snap the subject.
Wi-fi is a key consideration.... but, not at the expense of the 'end product'.... hence conundrum.

So, I’m turning my research/ beliefs/ assumptions and subsequent questions over to you all:
Am I in the ball park – have I correctly dissected the technical information properly?
Based on my beliefs that both cameras are somewhat/closely match optically and feature-wise, what have I failed to consider?

At the end of the day, I’m not looking for, nor desire a Nikon-Canon bashing contest – I realize both manufacturers have dedicated ‘camps’…. I’m looking for that ‘tipping point’ – if it exists.

Sorry for the long post.
Paul Winter
Hi ALL, br I am new to this forum, done much re... (show quote)


7D MII, Built in Flash D500 no (Extremely nice in parties and quick shots where you do not want to waste time finding a flash, or carry extra weight around), D500 built in WiFi 7D no (This seems to be a strong feature for you), D500 better dynamic range at very low ISO beyond that equal between the 2 so low light no difference where higher ISOs are needed. 7D Built in GPS D500 no. D500 has slightly more pixels and more focus points. If video is to be considered then the 7D walks away easily with Dual Pixel AF that no Nikon has (Accurate and fast video and live view AF is unique to Canon DPAF).
D500 has more AF points available with teleconverters. You know most the other features.
Both have lots of lenses.
If macro is a factor Canon has many more macros including 3 of them with tilt and shift features. Every Canon EF/EFs lens ever made works perfectly and 100% of features with the 7D so no worries. Nikon there are lots of limitations as to what features work with what, you will need to carefully research older lenses to ensure they have the functions you need. Canon also has a large range of absolutely silent lenses for video that Nikon does not have. Most all video camera makers use Canon EF mount and not Nikon so if you decide to get a separate video camera all your EF lenses are compatible and usable.

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Nov 12, 2017 10:14:16   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
crazydaddio wrote:
Canons wifi ecosystem is much better, lens selection and value also better (not by much and somewhat debateable)....if these are differentiators. Nikon for just about everything else. Between the 2 choices you are looking at D500 would be my choice if restarting (and I am a Canon shooter).

Do take a look at the Canon 80D. Lower end camera and much cheaper but still has decent fps at 7and good wifi...plus good video (if that ever becomes a careabout).

I would still say to sell your 1st born and get a D850 and use high quality and inexpensive DX lenses until you can afford the high end lenses.
(...not my money, I know....)

No matter what you decide, all these cameras will give you the abilitiy and control to take great images...
Canons wifi ecosystem is much better, lens selecti... (show quote)

DX lenses on a D850? Now THAT's crazy daddio!

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Nov 12, 2017 10:20:23   #
Mochaman Loc: Wilmington, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Welcome to our forum!

Take your time, and don't aim too low. Consider a refurbished camera - basically a new camera at a lower price.

Camera comparison sites.
Read comparisons and specs, and decide what features are important to you.
(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu
Welcome to our forum! br br Take your time, and d... (show quote)


jerryc41,
Links are great and I've been to a few already- will investigate the others as well. Spent several hours watching videos, reading blogs and following posters by pros and amateurs alike which have helped me get to this juncture. Still muddling through the specs, but getting better with assistance.
My primary focus is wildlife with a focus on birds, then sports/action and finally land-cityscapes. Given my budget, and my reluctance (at this time) to look at used equipment, my focus is on a new camera with fast frame rate, fast buffer, wide dynamic range and sharp images - which relies heavily on 'the glass' in front of that sensor.

Timeframe is this year rather than waiting for the next iteration simply because, IMHO, as soon as I purchase 'X', 'Y' has just been announced. Change and improvements are a given - need to get into the 'game'.

THANKS!!

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Nov 12, 2017 10:24:17   #
Mochaman Loc: Wilmington, NC
 
Japakomom wrote:
Go to Southeastern Camera - there is one in Wilmington. You can see and feel the cameras and all your questions can be answered.



I have spoken to them! They don't have either.... however, I will stop in and 'talk camera'.... maybe I'll get lucky!

Thanks

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Nov 12, 2017 10:27:07   #
Mochaman Loc: Wilmington, NC
 
DMGill wrote:
I’ve been shooting Nikons since 1968 by suspect you cannot go far wrong with any of the cameras in the Canon or Nikon systems. I upgraded from. D300 to a D500 earlier this year and went back to my camera store a week later to get a D500 to replace my wife’s D300S. The quality of the D500’s images is spectacular and the ability to track a moving subject while shooting at 9 frames a second is amazing. The 18-200mm lens is a great all purpose lense and had been my choice for hiking for years. It isn’t as sharp as some lenses with less versatility, but it comes as close to doing it all as any lens I’ve used. It’s sharp enough, light enough, and very reasonably priced. It’s only serious weakness is it isn’t a fast lens so low light is not its strong point, but the high ISO capability of the D500 and the 18-200’s vibration reduction capabilities go a long way to making up for this.
I’ve been shooting Nikons since 1968 by suspect yo... (show quote)


DMGill, Thanks, your experiences are extremely helpful!

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Nov 12, 2017 10:28:37   #
Mochaman Loc: Wilmington, NC
 
EdU239 wrote:
I would recommend renting both at the same time so you can do a direct comparison. Of course that adds to the overall cost, but you’re buying fairly expensive equipment so it comes out to a fairly small marginal increase. Someone else mentioned LensRentals and I would add BorrowLenses. I have used both and in my experience both provide excellent service. If you search online you might find someone closer to you.


Thanks - I will investigate both sites and check locally as well.

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Nov 12, 2017 10:29:53   #
williejoha
 
Do not forget to look at factory refurb's. When you add everything together, you will realize that you saved lots of money. All the hardware I buy is FACTORY refurb with warranty. Looks like new.
WJH

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