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Nov 10, 2017 16:46:36   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
I just examined all of my Nikkor lenses and every one of them has an easy to find serial number on them. Most of the serial numbers begin with US but not all. The lenses were all made in Thailand or China. The ones made in China all have the US prefix on the serial number.
I'd speculate that if your lens has no serial number, Grey market isn't the issue, it's probably a knock off...

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Nov 10, 2017 17:41:37   #
Jim Bob
 
JD750 wrote:
I just received the RMA from B&H. It's going back today.

$11 for return shipping, my penalty for not paying attention. I will be much more circumspect when purchasing from them in the future.


Good for you.

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Nov 10, 2017 18:11:53   #
wolfman
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I just examined all of my Nikkor lenses and every one of them has an easy to find serial number on them. Most of the serial numbers begin with US but not all. The lenses were all made in Thailand or China. The ones made in China all have the US prefix on the serial number.
I'd speculate that if your lens has no serial number, Grey market isn't the issue, it's probably a knock off...


Do you honestly believe that a reputable place like B&H is going to sell knock off products?

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Nov 11, 2017 00:13:27   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
wolfman wrote:
Do you honestly believe that a reputable place like B&H is going to sell knock off products?



The OP clearly stated the lens has no serial number. Someone else stated the serial numbers on Nikon lenses are hard to see. I don't know how many Nikkor lenses you own, I own 8. I looked at each one after reading the original post and the replies that followed. Each lens has clearly labeled on the barrel a serial number and the country it was made in. The serial numbers are quite easy to see and read. Just for another perspective, I also looked at several of my Canon lenses, my Tamron lenses and my Sigma lenses and every lens I looked at, even the ones I know for sure are Grey market, have serial numbers on them. If the OP is correct and there is no serial number on the lens, regardless of where the lens was purchased, it probably was not manufactured by Nikon. If the lens is labeled Nikkor and it has no serial number then the logical conclusion is, as already stated, the lens probably was not manufactured by Nikon. If it wasn't made by Nikon but is labeled Nikkor, then it's a counterfeit lens, most likely a Chinese knock off. It doesn't matter what I believe. If the OP is accurate about the lack of a serial number and the lens is labeled Nikkor, what do you believe?! To answer your question to me, yes, but that has nothing to do with the lens in question since I've never seen it. Do I believe they would intentionally sell a knock off product as the real thing, no.

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Nov 11, 2017 06:39:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JD750 wrote:
I purchased a 50mm F1.4 lens from B&H. It was not advertised as grey market. Looking closely at the web page it says "imported" but then all Nikon products are imported from Japan, so that didn't trigger an alarm with me.

web page that the lens was purchased from:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/97413-GREY/Nikon_1902_AF_Nikkor_50mm_f_1_4D.html

Yet when attempting to register it with Nikon, I noticed it does not have a serial number. Nor was there a warranty on the included paperwork. It says "made in china" on the lens. No warranty no serial number. It must be a grey market lens. And I don't want it. I have requested a refund from B&H. I will advise the results, here.
I purchased a 50mm F1.4 lens from B&H. It was ... (show quote)


Yes, "Imported" can have more than one meaning. In this case, it means imported by a third party. It was probably less expensive, and it will probably never need service. Still, it's nice to have the genuine article. Nikon products are made all over the world.

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Nov 11, 2017 06:56:32   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
JD750 wrote:
I purchased a 50mm F1.4 lens from B&H. It was not advertised as grey market. Looking closely at the web page it says "imported" but then all Nikon products are imported from Japan, so that didn't trigger an alarm with me.

web page that the lens was purchased from:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/97413-GREY/Nikon_1902_AF_Nikkor_50mm_f_1_4D.html

Yet when attempting to register it with Nikon, I noticed it does not have a serial number. Nor was there a warranty on the included paperwork. It says "made in china" on the lens. No warranty no serial number. It must be a grey market lens. And I don't want it. I have requested a refund from B&H. I will advise the results, here.
I purchased a 50mm F1.4 lens from B&H. It was ... (show quote)


Get in touch with B&H and return it, the purchase the higher priced lens that has the US warrenty
I purchased a Nikon 200mm macro from B&H (imported) knowing it was grey market that was 7 or 8 yrs ago, so far so good, I have exceeded the Mfg warranty so now its on my nickle if it shoots craps. However if I were to do it again I would pay the price and get a full American warranty.

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Nov 11, 2017 07:01:19   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
repleo wrote:
The gray market lens has the same SKU and manufacturers number as the US version - just $35 cheaper. They are identical lenses. Click on the question mark beside the 'Imported' and it will take you to B&H policies. The warranty is identical to the OEM warranty except that you would send it back to B&H instead of having the option of sending it to a Nikon service center. I would expect that if buying a lens from a reputable company like B&H you would send it to B&H anyway.

This whole Nikon 'no service for gray market' business is just a scare tactic to keep the profits flowing through Nikon USA. The sooner Nikon faithful wake up to this and protest the better.

Still if you are prepared to spend an extra $35 plus $11 shipping for a $300 lens just for peace of mind go ahead and do it. I don't know why you would expect to need warranty service on a 50mm prime lens. If you had to send it back to B&H for warranty service they would probably just send you a new one anyway.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/HelpCenter/Policies.jsp#greyMarket
The gray market lens has the same SKU and manufact... (show quote)



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Nov 11, 2017 07:30:13   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
The OP clearly stated the lens has no serial number. Someone else stated the serial numbers on Nikon lenses are hard to see. I don't know how many Nikkor lenses you own, I own 8. I looked at each one after reading the original post and the replies that followed. Each lens has clearly labeled on the barrel a serial number and the country it was made in. The serial numbers are quite easy to see and read. Just for another perspective, I also looked at several of my Canon lenses, my Tamron lenses and my Sigma lenses and every lens I looked at, even the ones I know for sure are Grey market, have serial numbers on them. If the OP is correct and there is no serial number on the lens, regardless of where the lens was purchased, it probably was not manufactured by Nikon. If the lens is labeled Nikkor and it has no serial number then the logical conclusion is, as already stated, the lens probably was not manufactured by Nikon. If it wasn't made by Nikon but is labeled Nikkor, then it's a counterfeit lens, most likely a Chinese knock off. It doesn't matter what I believe. If the OP is accurate about the lack of a serial number and the lens is labeled Nikkor, what do you believe?! To answer your question to me, yes, but that has nothing to do with the lens in question since I've never seen it. Do I believe they would intentionally sell a knock off product as the real thing, no.
The OP clearly stated the lens has no serial numbe... (show quote)


After reading your post I decided to look at some of my lenses. The first couple I picked up I found the serial number with no problem. When I got to the 12-24 DX, even with glasses on I could not find a serial #. I knew it had to be there since I check when I buy them. Shining a bright flashlight at the lens I found it right under where it says made in Japan. It is etched into the body which is a mat finish. Even after knowing where it is, my old eyes can't see it without the aid of a bright light.

I have a feeling the OP just missed it. Even the manufacturer of a knock off would put a serial # on it.

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Nov 11, 2017 07:43:16   #
mleuck
 
Why have a 1.8 and 1.4? GAS?

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Nov 11, 2017 07:51:40   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I can see that you did not know the difference between an imported and a genuine imported lens that comes with a Nikon warranty. Some stores sell gray lenses as parallel imports.
Yes, both lenses are imported but one has a USA warranty and the other does not. Both are made in the same factory.
If the lens is performing well for you I see no reasons to return it, unless the difference in price between your lens and a genuine import is not that different.
Gray lenses are not serviced by Nikon but they will be serviced somewhere else. Service is the last thing in my mind when I buy a lens.

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Nov 11, 2017 07:55:06   #
RonVerde
 
I have purchased over $20,000 worth of Nikon "Gray" market lenses from B&H over the years. The lenses operated perfectly and B&H has always been the number "one" choice of experienced professionals. Honesty with great service and good prices.

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Nov 11, 2017 07:55:41   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
This was sort of my thought too... You are looking at only 2/3 stop in performance between the two lenses.
Unless there is another issue like auto vs manual focus or something I would probably choose one or the other but not both.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

mleuck wrote:
Why have a 1.8 and 1.4? GAS?

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Nov 11, 2017 08:34:57   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
On the D lens you will need good lighting and a magnifying glass to find the serial number which is usually on the aperture ring (but not always).

JD750 wrote:
I purchased a 50mm F1.4 lens from B&H. It was not advertised as grey market. Looking closely at the web page it says "imported" but then all Nikon products are imported from Japan, so that didn't trigger an alarm with me.

web page that the lens was purchased from:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/97413-GREY/Nikon_1902_AF_Nikkor_50mm_f_1_4D.html

Yet when attempting to register it with Nikon, I noticed it does not have a serial number. Nor was there a warranty on the included paperwork. It says "made in china" on the lens. No warranty no serial number. It must be a grey market lens. And I don't want it. I have requested a refund from B&H. I will advise the results, here.
I purchased a 50mm F1.4 lens from B&H. It was ... (show quote)

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Nov 11, 2017 08:48:53   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
JD750 wrote:
I purchased a 50mm F1.4 lens from B&H. It was not advertised as grey market. Looking closely at the web page it says "imported" but then all Nikon products are imported from Japan, so that didn't trigger an alarm with me.

web page that the lens was purchased from:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/97413-GREY/Nikon_1902_AF_Nikkor_50mm_f_1_4D.html

Yet when attempting to register it with Nikon, I noticed it does not have a serial number. Nor was there a warranty on the included paperwork. It says "made in china" on the lens. No warranty no serial number. It must be a grey market lens. And I don't want it. I have requested a refund from B&H. I will advise the results, here.
I purchased a 50mm F1.4 lens from B&H. It was ... (show quote)


1. The lens does have a serial number, your not looking close enough. ALL NIKON LENSES HAVE A SERIAL NUMBER.
2. B&H lists the lenses together, one is more expensive than the other, the CHEAPER one says IMPORTED. You thought you were getting a deal didn't you.
3. You failed to properly research.
4. If your not happy, return it, Herschel will be glad to help you out, call him TODAY. Or Monday.
5. Lesson learned here is cheaper does not always mean better.

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Nov 11, 2017 09:31:32   #
philo Loc: philo, ca
 
I think that we had a post here a couple of weeks ago on gray vs. us. With canon it makes no differance they will service it however gray is not under warranty. I understand that N will not service gray.
I have a couple of C lens that have no serial number anywhere......now i wonder if they are gray.

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