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Nov 10, 2017 07:35:58   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
rmalarz wrote:
Probably. Nikon is about to shutter its entire operation. Your best bet is to purchase as many NIkon products as you can get your hands on. They'll become collector's items in a matter of months.
--Bob


In that case I am willing to sell you all my Nikon branded equipment for just 25% above retail. If you are a savvy investor you should jump at it. The first of the year, if I have anything left, I'm raising the price. Better hurry.



--

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Nov 10, 2017 08:14:04   #
Jeffcs Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
 
I'm sure nether company will be "out of business" any time soon and with Mu-43 system so good I'll bet both Nikon and Canon sat up and took notice and both are working on mirrorless bodies to go with their complement of lenses and accessories, whom doesn't want small light quality and if that's possible with currently offered lenses why wouldn't something be in the works

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Nov 10, 2017 08:24:52   #
Rwheless Loc: Houston, TX
 
Right on queue, Bob. ;-)

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Nov 10, 2017 09:02:47   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Granddad wrote:
Are Canon and Nikon being forced to change their thinking on what consumers want to buy, and are they about to go out of business if they don't change?


They are able to slide by, for now, on the “momentum of their installed base.” Many people are beholden to one or the other because they have many Canon or Nikon lenses. For the manufacturers, it’s a convenient lock.

Paradigm shifts can and do happen, however. Remember how Microsoft and Blackberry (RIM) (and many others) made very public fun of the iPhone back in 2007? Apple rocked their world.

Kodak practically invented digital photography, but when they didn’t pay attention to their own visionaries, the Japanese camera companies made it practical, and killed the bulk of the US film business.

I see it entirely possible that the camera market can be turned on its head.

I used Canons and Nikons, both personally and professionally, from 1968 to 2012. Now I use Panasonic gear, and absolutely love it for its fit in my workflow. I can’t see myself getting excited about Canikon again, any time soon.

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Nov 10, 2017 09:04:47   #
BebuLamar
 
Brucej67 wrote:
For both Nikon and Canon their photography business is only part of their total business as you are doubtless aware so even if they stopped making photography merchandise they would not go out of business.


But if their camera business goes sour they might stop making cameras altogether like the case of Konica-Minolta which is still in business and doing well but not making any film nor cameras.

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Nov 10, 2017 09:22:56   #
Idaho
 
You may have noticed that the camera business has been changing for the last couple hundred years. You may have also noticed that camera companies have changed somewhat during that time and will continue to do so. Are they being "forced" to change.... no, they choose to do so. No one is forcing them.

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Nov 10, 2017 09:23:59   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
True, but I don't think that will happen, they may turn to the mirror-less technology to keep up with the times. The Minolta business was actually picked up by Sony who are thriving on their mirror-less technology, seems the higher level photographers (not the iPhone type) want more than a DSLR and that may be the answer that keeps these companies going.

BebuLamar wrote:
But if their camera business goes sour they might stop making cameras altogether like the case of Konica-Minolta which is still in business and doing well but not making any film nor cameras.

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Nov 10, 2017 09:32:09   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
burkphoto wrote:
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.... Kodak practically invented digital photography, but when they didn’t pay attention to their own visionaries, the Japanese camera companies ....

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Kodak also invented the graphic user interface (GUI) for computers but had no vision and didn't pay attention to it. Steve Jobbs got a demonstration from one of the researchers, saw the potential ad gave birth to Apple which in turn was copied by Microsoft to create Windows.

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Nov 10, 2017 09:38:21   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
You question raised a lot of responses - all very interesting. Camera buffs often surprise me with what they think they need. Personally, I don't give a hoot how a camera works technically, whether it's a dslr, a point-n-shoot, mirrorless or not. The only important thing is "do I get great photos when I use it." Really folks, that's all that matters.
Granddad wrote:
Are Canon and Nikon being forced to change their thinking on what consumers want to buy, and are they about to go out of business if they don't change?

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Nov 10, 2017 09:39:15   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
The First Graphical User Interface

The first graphical user interface was designed by Xerox Corporation's Palo Alto Research Center in the 1970s, but it was not until the 1980s and the emergence of the Apple Macintosh that graphical user interfaces became popular. One reason for their slow acceptance was the fact that they require considerable CPU power and a high-quality monitor, which were prohibitively expensive.

Windows was an offshoot of DOS to start with a GUI thrown in at V2 and did not become popular till V3.1.


repleo wrote:
Kodak also invented the graphic user interface (GUI) for computers but had no vision and didn't pay attention to it. Steve Jobbs got a demonstration from one of the researchers, saw the potential ad gave birth to Apple which in turn was copied by Microsoft to create Windows.

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Nov 10, 2017 10:01:23   #
crazydaddio Loc: Toronto Ontario Canada
 
mas24 wrote:
Mirrorless, as many say is the camera of the future. Both Nikon and Canon are behind in mirrorless technology with Sony, Panasonic, Fuji, and Olympus. However, Nikon's newest DSLR, the D850, is as good, or even better than the competition mirrorless Brands, with the possible exception to the Sony a9 mirrorless camera. Canon is presently #1 in marketing. Point and shoot camera sales are down due to iPhones and Smartphones. Mirrorless cameras will be around for a very long time, and will improve with each successive year. Nikon and Canon, in the future, will have to realize that mirrorless is rising in popularity. One day, Nikon and Canon, will come out with a blockbuster mirrorless camera, on the same level as the D850. The D850 was a Nikon 100th Anniversary blockbuster. Nikon nor Canon are not in danger of going out of business anytime soon. Sales down, yes. Out of business. No.
Mirrorless, as many say is the camera of the futur... (show quote)


Excellent assessment.

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Nov 10, 2017 10:02:19   #
pego99
 
I read somewhere that Cannon might go out of business.

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Nov 10, 2017 10:03:57   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Granddad wrote:
Are Canon and Nikon being forced to change their thinking on what consumers want to buy, and are they about to go out of business if they don't change?


Yes and no!

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Nov 10, 2017 10:05:33   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
pego99 wrote:
I read somewhere that Cannon might go out of business.


Really have you not read the post before you posted, stop with this idiotic B/S? By the way it’s Canon not Cannon!

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Nov 10, 2017 10:10:33   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Kodak practically invented digital photography, but when they didn’t pay attention to their own visionaries, the Japanese camera companies made it practical, and killed the bulk of the US film business.
They had already lost that battle. Kodak was focusing on film and other chemicals - had largely given up on cameras - by the time digital photography became a thing.

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