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Bridge Over St. Lawrence, Pano Two Ways
Oct 29, 2017 18:47:43   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Here's two different ways I tried the panorama for this bridge and the old Industrial adjacent to it. It was a restricted area but the friendly supervisor escorted us to the river's edge. It wasn't perfect, but it was indeed the only view. I'm not sure the color one is level even though LR claims it is. Comments on both, and preferences. And I know it's compositionally heavy on the right side, so if you care to suggest or demonstrate a crop, thanks in advance for that too.


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Oct 29, 2017 21:53:07   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
My first reaction looking at this, can you reverse/flip/ this. I'm wondering if it would look like the bridge leading to the structure, instead of away from the structure. My eye wants to follow the bridge out of the scene and away from the building.

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Oct 30, 2017 11:01:37   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
My first reaction looking at this, can you reverse/flip/ this. I'm wondering if it would look like the bridge leading to the structure, instead of away from the structure. My eye wants to follow the bridge out of the scene and away from the building.

Easy to flip, but I'll still be wondering if it's too heavy on the side of that building. Do you see a crop anywhere? The monochrome was processed with the notion of lightening the load of the whole photo, but not sure it helped.


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Oct 30, 2017 13:02:46   #
Islandgal Loc: Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Canada
 
I can't tell you why Minnie but I prefer the original in colour...also beautiful for all it's detail.

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Oct 30, 2017 15:08:26   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
If you can't get 10 ft off the ground the only other option is a vertical stretch (and some split toning to get colour where there was none).

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Oct 30, 2017 16:18:54   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
R.G. wrote:
If you can't get 10 ft off the ground the only other option is a vertical stretch (and some split toning to get colour where there was none).

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One of these days I"m gonna remember to try vertical stretching before you tell me to! Thanks!

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Oct 30, 2017 16:19:26   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Islandgal wrote:
I can't tell you why Minnie but I prefer the original in colour...also beautiful for all it's detail.


Thanks, it was a more interesting scene than I've been able to show, still trying to find the way...

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Oct 30, 2017 17:22:18   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
I don't think it's too heavy on one side, I think the bridge leads you eyes out of the scene.
minniev wrote:
Easy to flip, but I'll still be wondering if it's too heavy on the side of that building. Do you see a crop anywhere? The monochrome was processed with the notion of lightening the load of the whole photo, but not sure it helped.

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Oct 31, 2017 10:00:52   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
I really don't think this can be salvaged. The compositional elements do not work together. There are too many objects, it looks quite busy. It's not tied together. The curve take you no where. There are some reeds and a castle and a bridge far away, but there is no focus. There is no intimacy. Clipping or cropping isn't going to save it either. There is a strange mixture of colors, tones, shapes and textures. The sky is very nice. Good clouds. That's the draw. Had you simplified the image and emphasized the clouds, I think there could have been a greater chance of success. Even if you found something, it would require such a heavy crop that you would have to deal with other issues including noise, artifacts, and posterization. Sometimes is better just to abandon the effort and use your time on more productive outcomes. Just my two bits.

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Oct 31, 2017 10:33:23   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Mark7829 wrote:
I really don't think this can be salvaged. The compositional elements do not work together. There are too many objects, it looks quite busy. It's not tied together. The curve take you no where. There are some reeds and a castle and a bridge far away, but there is no focus. There is no intimacy. Clipping or cropping isn't going to save it either. There is a strange mixture of colors, tones, shapes and textures. The sky is very nice. Good clouds. That's the draw. Had you simplified the image and emphasized the clouds, I think there could have been a greater chance of success. Even if you found something, it would require such a heavy crop that you would have to deal with other issues including noise, artifacts, and posterization. Sometimes is better just to abandon the effort and use your time on more productive outcomes. Just my two bits.
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I always welcome your two cents worth, Mark, I appreciate anyone who takes their time to offer comments on my photos. The strange mixture of shapes, textures and colors were what tempted me to try the pano, and the complexity of the right side vs the emptiness of the left made me doubt it. I've plenty of the simpler compositions that just show the right section of the bridge, the grain elevator and the cool clouds. My question was about whether cropping this 4 shot pano would help it any, and I understand the reasoning for your view on that.

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Oct 31, 2017 20:24:15   #
dansmith Loc: Southwest Alberta Canada
 
I grew up 30 miles north of here and remember the construction of this bridge in the late 50's. This makes me somewhat biased as the photo for me is interesting for that reason. If anything, I find that the clumps of partly submerged branches compete with the bridge but they would be very hard to remove. I think that you made the best of a difficult subject and an equally less than favorable vantage point.

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Nov 1, 2017 07:05:39   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
dansmith wrote:
I grew up 30 miles north of here and remember the construction of this bridge in the late 50's. This makes me somewhat biased as the photo for me is interesting for that reason. If anything, I find that the clumps of partly submerged branches compete with the bridge but they would be very hard to remove. I think that you made the best of a difficult subject and an equally less than favorable vantage point.


Thank you Dan, it helps to hear a voice from someone who knows this area. I considered removing those odd branches but decided against trying. The whole scene proved less possible than I'd hoped from a distance, but I'm always gonna try something! The images of just the grain elevator alone show more promise, as well as some that have other angles to the bridge with more foliage in them. But nothing else showed all of it other than the pano effort.

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Nov 1, 2017 07:27:54   #
Dave Chinn
 
minniev wrote:
Here's two different ways I tried the panorama for this bridge and the old Industrial adjacent to it. It was a restricted area but the friendly supervisor escorted us to the river's edge. It wasn't perfect, but it was indeed the only view. I'm not sure the color one is level even though LR claims it is. Comments on both, and preferences. And I know it's compositionally heavy on the right side, so if you care to suggest or demonstrate a crop, thanks in advance for that too.


I like the image as is, composition wise. However, I'm torn between the two, color vs B&W. No decision, so I'm sticking to both as favorites for different reasons, but those dramatic clouds for both is never a bad thing to my eye.
Dave

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Nov 1, 2017 08:03:06   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Dave Chinn wrote:
I like the image as is, composition wise. However, I'm torn between the two, color vs B&W. No decision, so I'm sticking to both as favorites for different reasons, but those dramatic clouds for both is never a bad thing to my eye.
Dave


Thank you Dave. I've continued to mull over this one with comments and experiments, and think a two frame semi-pano with the grain elevator and part of the bridge, may be a possibility.

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