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Oct 23, 2017 08:46:15   #
lamontcranston
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Can you post a photo of the lens and filter. I am trying to visualize how the threads on the filter could get damaged and the threads on the lens not be damaged...


The B&W thread ring is made out of brass. Under most conditions brass is softer than aluminum. It's not hard to accept the possibility that the B&W filter threads would absorb more damage than the aluminum threads on the lens. The softer brass threads on the B&W filters also make it easier to remove the filter if it had been over-tightened when it was installed.

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Oct 23, 2017 09:04:51   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Yes, but if the filter is installed on the lens the filter, lets say brass, threads are going to be screwed into the len's threads. I just have a hard time visualizing how the filter threads could be damaged and the len's threads not damaged. The only scenario I can imagine is that the filter would have to be crushed toward the lens and the brass thread ring of the filter perhaps pulled in toward the center of the filter. That is why I would love to see a photo or two of the results.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

lamontcranston wrote:
The B&W thread ring is made out of brass. Under most conditions brass is softer than aluminum. It's not hard to accept the possibility that the B&W filter threads would absorb more damage than the aluminum threads on the lens. The softer brass rings on the B&W filters also make it easier to remove the filter when it has been over-tightened when it was installed.

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Oct 23, 2017 18:20:42   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Yes, but if the filter is installed on the lens the filter, lets say brass, threads are going to be screwed into the len's threads. I just have a hard time visualizing how the filter threads could be damaged and the len's threads not damaged. The only scenario I can imagine is that the filter would have to be crushed toward the lens and the brass thread ring of the filter perhaps pulled in toward the center of the filter. That is why I would love to see a photo or two of the results.

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Yes, but if the filter is installed on the lens th... (show quote)


I do not any longer use UV filters. But when I did I had a 52mm Nikon UV attached to a Nikon 105 2.5 manual focus lens. I dropped it and the corner of the filter bent (a lot) and the corner of the glass on the filter was smashed, but the threads on the filter and the threads on the lens were not damaged at all.

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Oct 23, 2017 19:49:56   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Have had a couple of similar experiences.
billnikon wrote:
I do not any longer use UV filters. But when I did I had a 52mm Nikon UV attached to a Nikon 105 2.5 manual focus lens. I dropped it and the corner of the filter bent (a lot) and the corner of the glass on the filter was smashed, but the threads on the filter and the threads on the lens were not damaged at all.

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Oct 23, 2017 19:52:16   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
SHK5796 wrote:
What is the best way to protect lens? Like UV filter? I have Tameron 150-600mm lens. Polarizing filter I have bought degrades the picture, when I enlarge/crop he jpeg pictures. Should I invest in UV filter for protection of lens?


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Oct 23, 2017 22:15:50   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Dang. A visual to show how a UV filter can protect the front glass of a camera lens. Case closed.

The pictures resemble my experience with smashed UV filters.
Architect1776 wrote:
You decide.

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Oct 24, 2017 07:12:43   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
anotherview wrote:
Dang. A visual to show how a UV filter can protect the front glass of a camera lens. Case closed.

The pictures resemble my experience with smashed UV filters.


I saw 5 pages of pontificating by those with absolutely no experience how filters do not protect. Google is so easy to show all that BS is just that.

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Oct 24, 2017 11:35:43   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Your comment appears to box others supporting UV filters into proving a negative, which is impossible.

On the other side, your view would have to show by example that a UV filter cannot protect a lens optic. This view of non-protection now flies in the face of visual evidence showing the obvious opposite: UV filter protection of a camera lens from damage.

Your role as a contrarian may continue yet for now it survives by insistence not by physical proof.
Architect1776 wrote:
I saw 5 pages of pontificating by those with absolutely no experience how filters do not protect. Google is so easy to show all that BS is just that.

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Oct 24, 2017 12:06:30   #
Hank Radt
 
Worth a read: Confirmation Bias - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

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Oct 24, 2017 15:18:16   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
anotherview wrote:
Your comment appears to box others supporting UV filters into proving a negative, which is impossible.

On the other side, your view would have to show by example that a UV filter cannot protect a lens optic. This view of non-protection now flies in the face of visual evidence showing the obvious opposite: UV filter protection of a camera lens from damage.

Your role as a contrarian may continue yet for now it survives by insistence not by physical proof.


Yeah photos of real instances are not proof or of value.
Truth hurts.

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Oct 24, 2017 20:14:16   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Thanks. The discussion clarifies species of erroneous thinking processes.
Hank Radt wrote:
Worth a read: Confirmation Bias - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

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Oct 24, 2017 21:04:19   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
boberic wrote:
To use a protective filter or not to. Right up there with Canon or Nikon, Chevy or ford. I only use one in harsh environments. But if it hepls you sleep at night go ahead. Just be sure to use a good one.


Agree. I posted before on this subject before. Dropped my macro lens. The UV filter was shattered and the screw threads it attaches with were damaged but the important part, the lens itself, is fine. You'll hear that it puts one more factor between the lens and the sensor. True. But if you buy the best and keep it clean, spotless, you'll do fine. And it will protect your lens to a certain extent.

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Oct 24, 2017 21:08:40   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
cthahn wrote:
That is up to you. A polarizing filter does not degrade the photo.


But it can cause the loss of up to one stop of light entering the camera. It does affect the image.

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Oct 24, 2017 21:13:25   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Some Polarizing Filters can cost 2 stops of light. I think the main issue here was UV filter for protection...

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Oct 24, 2017 22:25:58   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
10MPlayer wrote:
Agree. I posted before on this subject before. Dropped my macro lens. The UV filter was shattered and the screw threads it attaches with were damaged but the important part, the lens itself, is fine. You'll hear that it puts one more factor between the lens and the sensor. True. But if you buy the best and keep it clean, spotless, you'll do fine. And it will protect your lens to a certain extent.


When you dropped your camera did you have a Lens hood on your Lens?

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