jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Women have been part of the Cub Scout operation for decades.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

The link isn't working. What didn't the Mormon Church like about the Boy Scouts?

Lowrider Loc: Kennesaw, GA

I suspect it was the "Gay" issue. BTW, yes women are involved in Cub Scouts for that reason, at the time that is just what they are, young cubs. It is a transitional period for them and as I recall my wife and I went on every camping trip with them. So while the mother's were involved the Father's were there along with them and I attended all of the Cub Scout meetings to lend a hand with the heavy lifting.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

The Mormon Church, one of the major sources of scouts has partially severed relations with the BSA over the Transgender issue and with this move possibly sever the rest really hurting the BSA with a huge funding source and boys.
They are not big fans of boys and girls camping together the way that has been done in the past.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

That's why they called them Den Mothers.

mas24 Loc: Southern CA

Not only does the US Military have women Generals, President Trump just nominated a woman to head the Homeland Security. She was recommended by Chief of Staff, Mr. John Kelly, a Retired General himself. And President Trump is anything but a Liberal. Would you agree?

Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI

*Sigh* You apparently mean that the decline in this organization is because a few gay kids are allowed to be themselves, and you are aqainting being gay with pedophilia. Those old red herrings are long known to be simply wrong.
The decline in scouting was in the works long before any of that stuff was on the radar since kids just have other interests, what with computers and video games and so on.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

Since we currently have women working along side men in numerous professions, from computer programmers to plumbers, linemen and of course the military.....

What specifically does the Boy Scouts provide to boys that would be inappropriate to provide to girls?

What specifically does the Girl Scouts provide to girls that would be inappropriate to provide to boys?

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

Actually, you mean "to do what is unnatural."

It may be the current fashionable trend, but popularity doesn't make something morally right.

Also, the pedophilia connection isn't a red herring, it's real. Studies have shown that the rate of male-male molestation are much higher in the homosexual community than otherwise.

It's also promoted openly in the homosexual community.

In 1995 the homosexual magazine "Guide" said,

"We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual" and "deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose. "

The article went on to say:

"Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children's sexuality we must do it for the children's sake."




It may or may not have been but that doesn't mean that this isn't causing folks to bail on scouting, it is.

chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO

Wow....you took that COMPLETELY out of context.

I know "a few' homosexuals and NONE of them condone pedophelia.

Back then, they were labeled as pedophiles because the accusers were....less than tolerant.

The quote says that even though they were called pedophiles, they shouldn't be defined by someone else's label.

lopespam

I too am an Eagle and on a local Council Board. This was a long time coming and was no surprise to this Medicare recipient. We have been discussing this on a local level for some years. Girls and boys will both be in Cub Scouts and will be separate at times. Girls have long been in the BSA in older ages such as Exploring and Venturing. The last area to go co-ed will be the conventional Boy Scouts.

Certain ethnic groups we are told do everything as a family and many sisters of Cub Scouts want to do the things that their brothers do. They are doing it anyway I am told "on the side." As I understand it, camping in conventional Boy Scouts will be segregated.

The Girl Scouts seem to have a completely different agenda than Boy Scouts and I do not anticipate a lot of competition between the organizations, but I could be wrong.

Our culture is changing quickly and the BSA is very slow to change. With that said, I would not have anticipated the changes made in the last few years as of ten years ago. One thing that has not changed is Scouting is an educational program that uses the outdoors as a teaching tool. The Merit Badge program can introduce the Scout to a profession/occupation. The whole program has a series of interviews at each step in Scouting. I have sat in on interviews with the Boys and Girls Club for the Youth of the Month and numerous Eagle Boards of Review. By far, the Eagles do much better. I know a retired General that was interviewing candidates for the Academies for a Congressman. I asked him how the Eagles did compared to the other candidates. He was not sure. I then asked him to set all Eagle applicants folders in one pile and then rank them compared to other applicants. Later I asked him how they did. He said, "They were head and shoulders above everyone else."

Kids that spend several years in Scouting do far better in school and do better in their chosen occupation so some of the studies state. Scouting is not for everyone and is changing as our culture changes. You will see a change in Scouting to involve the whole family. Time will tell us if this is a positive change.

jcave Loc: Cecilia, Kentucky

Just want to say, this has been a very interesting, civil and eye-opening discussion. Thanks to all UHHers for your input.

Ront53 Loc: Maryland

The boys will take of those Girl Scout "cookies".

brucebc Loc: Tooele, Utah

Try this one; https://www.lds.org/church/news/church-replacing-varsity-and-venturing-scouting-with-new-activities-program?lang=eng

Goes to lds.org the official church web site.

whitewolfowner

Let's see how long it takes one of these girls to become pregnant or crying rape. The boy scouts have been rapidly going to the sewer for several years. I was a scout master years ago and had to walk away because the board members were rich spoiled adults brats who instead of having their boys go out and sell, wanted to buy their out of the sales and because the guy in charge in my town was a hypocritical idiot who was violating me because of the religion I was raised as. When I grew up and was in boy scouts, it was well run and we learned a lot and played a lot too. I can just picture them going on a campout and finding later all the girls were raped over the week end. It's coming to a town very soon. I can just imagine the law suits and the kids lives destroyed because the boy scouts are about as dumb as a rock! In my book any parent that let's their children in this organization after this is just asking for trouble.