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Oct 5, 2017 08:05:42   #
tjjm Loc: Saint Louis, Mo.
 
Have been shooting nature/wildlife with a 7D mark ll for a few years and really enjoying it but wanting to branch out. Looking for a full frame camera to delve into the world of macro and saw the 5Ds. It can be purchased for roughly the same price as a 5D mark lV, higher megs, familiar processor. Anyone have experience with this model. Thoughts and advice appreciated.

Tom

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Oct 5, 2017 08:13:49   #
brentrh Loc: Deltona, FL
 
I have one very pleased with results so far. Excellent job when cropping part of image

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Oct 5, 2017 08:13:49   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
tjjm wrote:
Have been shooting nature/wildlife with a 7D mark ll for a few years and really enjoying it but wanting to branch out. Looking for a full frame camera to delve into the world of macro and saw the 5Ds. It can be purchased for roughly the same price as a 5D mark lV, higher megs, familiar processor. Anyone have experience with this model. Thoughts and advice appreciated.

Tom


Canon Explorer of Light George Lepp has a video on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzk8o9AxYMQ

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Oct 5, 2017 08:31:36   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Have you read this review?
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/5ds.htm

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Oct 5, 2017 09:08:13   #
tjjm Loc: Saint Louis, Mo.
 
thanks for the links and comments. Looking and sounding better all the time.

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Oct 5, 2017 09:54:36   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
I have the 5D SR, and it is an amazing camera. It is not a fast camera and it enjoys a good bit of light but the images it produces are stunning. It's also more comfortable sitting on a tripod but in the right light it certainly does well handheld.
I came to the conclusion that although it is a fantastic camera it's not really a good general purpose camera, for that I use a 5D IV.
Go for the R version. The S has mind boggling resolution and the SR is just a wee bit better and I've never had any real problem with moire.

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Oct 5, 2017 14:29:27   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
tjjm wrote:
Have been shooting nature/wildlife with a 7D mark ll for a few years and really enjoying it but wanting to branch out. Looking for a full frame camera to delve into the world of macro and saw the 5Ds. It can be purchased for roughly the same price as a 5D mark lV, higher megs, familiar processor. Anyone have experience with this model. Thoughts and advice appreciated.

Tom


The 7DII vs the 5Ds or sr or any other FF you get about the same image quality/detail as long as you get in close and fill the frame so you don't have to crop. I do about as much macro with my 7DII as I do my 6D. The main difference is how big you can print and have the image look sharp.
I am considering trading both my 7DII & 6D and getting a 5DIV. Better FF compared to the 6D except weight and size and does almost everything the 7DII does except for the "reach" and fps with an AF system that pretty much equals the 7DII in most things and exceeds it in others.
Plus being old and lazy I will not have to decide which to take or only have to carry one body. (Murphy does whisper "You'll Be Sorry!". The day before I have something I really want to photograph my camera will hit the shop and I won't have a backup/alternate.)

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Oct 6, 2017 06:43:16   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
tjjm wrote:
Have been shooting nature/wildlife with a 7D mark ll for a few years and really enjoying it but wanting to branch out. Looking for a full frame camera to delve into the world of macro and saw the 5Ds. It can be purchased for roughly the same price as a 5D mark lV, higher megs, familiar processor. Anyone have experience with this model. Thoughts and advice appreciated.

Tom


If you are happy with the results you are getting with the 7DII then you would probably be happy with the 5DS, I like to shoot eagles, pelicans, and other birds in flight, personally I went with the IV because of the it has better ISO performance which affords me cleaner pics (less noise) when shooting at higher ISO needed to stop motion blur. I have seen some wonderfully sharp images coming from the 5DS posted here on the site, but I remain happy with my decision to go the 5DIV route.

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Oct 6, 2017 06:50:13   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
brentrh wrote:
I have one very pleased with results so far. Excellent job when cropping part of image

Doesn’t it have a rather limited ISO range???

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Oct 6, 2017 07:48:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
tjjm wrote:
Have been shooting nature/wildlife with a 7D mark ll for a few years and really enjoying it but wanting to branch out. Looking for a full frame camera to delve into the world of macro and saw the 5Ds. It can be purchased for roughly the same price as a 5D mark lV, higher megs, familiar processor. Anyone have experience with this model. Thoughts and advice appreciated.

Tom


Comparisons -

(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://www.cameradecision.com/
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu

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Oct 6, 2017 11:45:48   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
I have both 7dII and 5D IV. I think of the 7D as my long lens camera and the 5D as a wide angle camera, so what do you want to shoot?

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Oct 6, 2017 12:41:34   #
al lehman Loc: San jose, ca.
 
tjjm wrote:
Have been shooting nature/wildlife with a 7D mark ll for a few years and really enjoying it but wanting to branch out. Looking for a full frame camera to delve into the world of macro and saw the 5Ds. It can be purchased for roughly the same price as a 5D mark lV, higher megs, familiar processor. Anyone have experience with this model. Thoughts and advice appreciated.

Tom

I bought a used 5d iii for the same exact reasons you specified. Just completed a maiden voyage with the camera to Yellowstone and the camera is awesome. Pics are fantastic and what I saved went into the 600mm fund.

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Oct 6, 2017 12:49:15   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
rehess wrote:
Doesn’t it have a rather limited ISO range???


It goes to 12800.
I don't recall ever going beyond 6400 and I do a lot of photography.
Faster lenses will help. It's kinda crazy to use 51mp then put a $20 saddle on it in the form of cheap, slow zoom lenses that aren't very sharp.
The 5s is a pretty amazing camera. You can crop half of a shot and you're STILL at 25mp.
It's the FIRST camera that I can actually see on the LCD if the image is actually sharp before going to the computer.
I shoot sports with it a lot. Don't get me wrong, I also use a 1Dx. The 5s makes a formidable team. I put a tele on the 1D and a wide angle for super in your face shots with the 5s. And I FINALLY get REAL wide angle, not stunted wide angle produced by a crop.
Only a MF will outshoot a 5Ds if you're after DETAIL. A 5DlV is barely more than 1/2 way there.
Macro is done on a tripod, so ISO is irrelevant. You could shoot the smallest subject and crop. It also means you don't have to be completely on top of your subject, because if you don't fill the frame you can crop.
I can't imagine a better macro camera.
SS

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Oct 6, 2017 14:46:26   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
tjjm wrote:
Have been shooting nature/wildlife with a 7D mark ll for a few years and really enjoying it but wanting to branch out. Looking for a full frame camera to delve into the world of macro and saw the 5Ds. It can be purchased for roughly the same price as a 5D mark lV, higher megs, familiar processor. Anyone have experience with this model. Thoughts and advice appreciated.

Tom


IF you want the highest resolution available in a "full frame" camera and...

IF you are okay with a slower frame rate and...

IF you have a computer with enough processing power, RAW and both memory card and hard drive storage space for the much larger files and....

IF you don't need particularly high ISO (5DS range ISO 100 to 6400, expandable to 50 and 12800... 5DIV range ISO 100-32000, expandable to 50, 51200 and 102400) and...

IF you plan to make HUGE prints and...

IF you already have or are okay investing in premium lenses to use on it...

THEN the 5DS (or 5DS-R) might be a good camera for you! It should be great for macro and landscape shots.... though not so great for wildlife. There are some advantages using a cropper like your current camera for birds, distant critters, and sports or anything else that calls for powerful telephotos.

The 5D Mark IV offers higher frame rate, much higher usable ISO, a similar but more advanced AF system, a Touch Screen and Dual Pixel Auto Focus in Live View (which can be very useful for macro, as well as video... 5DS models have neither a Touchscreen or DPAF). Sure, it's "only" 30MP... 50% more resolution than your crop camera and 36% more than the 5D Mark III.

Personally I do most of my shooting with crop cameras.... a pair of 7DII same as yours (and have used as high as ISO 16000 with those). Those handle about 90% of what I shoot (mostly sports, some wildlife). But I also have a full frame 5D Mark II that I've used over the years for some other purposes (portraits, macro, landscapes, seascapes, cityscapes, architecture). I eventually plan to upgrade to the 5D Mark IV and think that will work well for all but the sports/wildlife shooting. But if I find myself doing a lot of land/sea/cityscape shooting, pretty sure I'll want the 5DS or 5DS-R.

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Oct 6, 2017 16:49:40   #
Regis Loc: Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
 
tjjm wrote:
Have been shooting nature/wildlife with a 7D mark ll for a few years and really enjoying it but wanting to branch out. Looking for a full frame camera to delve into the world of macro and saw the 5Ds. It can be purchased for roughly the same price as a 5D mark lV, higher megs, familiar processor. Anyone have experience with this model. Thoughts and advice appreciated.

Tom


I use my Canon 5Dsr for wildlife shots and long-range macro-like photography photos using a Canon 400 II DO f4 lens. Hand held only shots. See the two examples here.


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