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Jul 6, 2012 13:34:52   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
wlgoode wrote:
One of the most common problems with these old view cameras is worn bellows (holes).


I saw somewhere that people where using bellows with the holes to do some nice creative images. Have you heard of that?

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Jul 6, 2012 13:37:19   #
Swede Loc: Trail, BC Canada
 
chapjohn wrote:
wlgoode wrote:
One of the most common problems with these old view cameras is worn bellows (holes).


I saw somewhere that people where using bellows with the holes to do some nice creative images. Have you heard of that?


No Sir, haven't really heard to much about it except for here
Swede

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Jul 6, 2012 13:39:49   #
Swede Loc: Trail, BC Canada
 
chapjohn wrote:
wlgoode wrote:
One of the most common problems with these old view cameras is worn bellows (holes).


I saw somewhere that people where using bellows with the holes to do some nice creative images. Have you heard of that?


Hi ChapJohn how close are you to the Columbia River, I'm looking at it right now
Swede

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Jul 6, 2012 13:43:22   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Swede wrote:
Thanks All, I finally did have a pretty good look at the Camera. There are no holes in the bellows the lens plate and lens are there, so is what I think is the focus plate, no hood came with it but a towel worked just fine. I figured out the fstop and shutter speed, BUT what I can't figure out is how you focus it. I think the lens is suppose to slide back and forth on its track, but how do you keep the shutter open to focus it.
I'll get it eventually, with all your help, much appreciated
5x7 negatives
Swede
Thanks All, I finally did have a pretty good look ... (show quote)


If you have a bulb setting, that will keep your shutter open as long as the shutter is pressed.

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Jul 6, 2012 13:46:38   #
Swede Loc: Trail, BC Canada
 
It has a bulb setting, I figured that out but how do you hold the shutter down and look through the focusing , my arms just aren't long enough.
Swede

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Jul 6, 2012 13:58:47   #
Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California
 
Some of the older lenses had a T setting. You press the shutter release once - the shutter opens. Press it again - the shutter closes. If it doesn't have that - B setting and a cable release with a locking screw will do it. Some of the lenses also had a shutter hold button or lever on the outside ring of the shutter.

You focus it by moving the rear standard forward and back making the bellows shorter and longer. The back of the camera, when the film holder it out, should be ground glass on to which the image is projected. The image will be upside down and and backward. An advantage to the SLR camera. Hope that helps a bit. The image on the ground glass will not be really bright. Use a very opaque "dark cloth" to assist with the focusing.

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Jul 6, 2012 13:59:02   #
Larrie Loc: NE Ohio
 
That would be ideal for making tintypes

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Jul 6, 2012 14:21:41   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
Swede wrote:
It has a bulb setting, I figured that out but how do you hold the shutter down and look through the focusing , my arms just aren't long enough.
Swede


View cameras ordinarily require a cable release. Depending on the brand of shutter (Wollensack, Copal, etc.) it may have a lever on the left side as you face the camera that can be moved in a downward direction, this lever is the shutter release. It may have another lever above it with a threaded hole for the cable release.

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Jul 6, 2012 14:47:46   #
Swede Loc: Trail, BC Canada
 
Bozsik wrote:
Some of the older lenses had a T setting. You press the shutter release once - the shutter opens. Press it again - the shutter closes. If it doesn't have that - B setting and a cable release with a locking screw will do it. Some of the lenses also had a shutter hold button or lever on the outside ring of the shutter.

You focus it by moving the rear standard forward and back making the bellows shorter and longer. The back of the camera, when the film holder it out, should be ground glass on to which the image is projected. The image will be upside down and and backward. An advantage to the SLR camera. Hope that helps a bit. The image on the ground glass will not be really bright. Use a very opaque "dark cloth" to assist with the focusing.
Some of the older lenses had a T setting. You pres... (show quote)


This is Probably easier, this is the focus screen and the lens plate
Swede





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Jul 6, 2012 15:23:15   #
Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California
 
Swede wrote:
Bozsik wrote:
Some of the older lenses had a T setting. You press the shutter release once - the shutter opens. Press it again - the shutter closes. If it doesn't have that - B setting and a cable release with a locking screw will do it. Some of the lenses also had a shutter hold button or lever on the outside ring of the shutter.

You focus it by moving the rear standard forward and back making the bellows shorter and longer. The back of the camera, when the film holder it out, should be ground glass on to which the image is projected. The image will be upside down and and backward. An advantage to the SLR camera. Hope that helps a bit. The image on the ground glass will not be really bright. Use a very opaque "dark cloth" to assist with the focusing.
Some of the older lenses had a T setting. You pres... (show quote)


This is Probably easier, this is the focus screen and the lens plate
Swede
quote=Bozsik Some of the older lenses had a T set... (show quote)


What a great deal you got. Check to see if when you select the shutter speeds, turn the dial all the way and see if it locks the shutter open. And it looks like the lens needs cleaning. BTW. You can take the lens/shutter to a camera repair shop. They use to do this for free, but I don't know if they still do. They can run the shutter through the different speeds and give you the real shutter speed. The spring for the shutter changes over the years as they get older. If you know what the shutter is actually exposing at, it doesn't matter what it says on the lens. If you are not going to play with it, then it isn't an issue. I would place it in our great room and use it as room decor. You may be able to find an old wooden tripod for it as well.

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Jul 6, 2012 15:54:06   #
Swede Loc: Trail, BC Canada
 
Bozsik wrote:
Swede wrote:
Bozsik wrote:
Some of the older lenses had a T setting. You press the shutter release once - the shutter opens. Press it again - the shutter closes. If it doesn't have that - B setting and a cable release with a locking screw will do it. Some of the lenses also had a shutter hold button or lever on the outside ring of the shutter.

You focus it by moving the rear standard forward and back making the bellows shorter and longer. The back of the camera, when the film holder it out, should be ground glass on to which the image is projected. The image will be upside down and and backward. An advantage to the SLR camera. Hope that helps a bit. The image on the ground glass will not be really bright. Use a very opaque "dark cloth" to assist with the focusing.
Some of the older lenses had a T setting. You pres... (show quote)


This is Probably easier, this is the focus screen and the lens plate
Swede
quote=Bozsik Some of the older lenses had a T set... (show quote)


What a great deal you got. Check to see if when you select the shutter speeds, turn the dial all the way and see if it locks the shutter open. And it looks like the lens needs cleaning. BTW. You can take the lens/shutter to a camera repair shop. They use to do this for free, but I don't know if they still do. They can run the shutter through the different speeds and give you the real shutter speed. The spring for the shutter changes over the years as they get older. If you know what the shutter is actually exposing at, it doesn't matter what it says on the lens. If you are not going to play with it, then it isn't an issue. I would place it in our great room and use it as room decor. You may be able to find an old wooden tripod for it as well.
quote=Swede quote=Bozsik Some of the older lense... (show quote)


I believe the shutter speed is working because when I move the dial and fire the shutter I can notice a difference in the time it stays open. If you look you can see two little arms above the lens itself they are connected to those things that look like rockets the one on the left will move the right doesn't. do you know what there for, they don't move when you fire the shutter, I stuck an air hose on them both and blew into it the left moved not the right.
Thanks Again

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Jul 6, 2012 16:14:08   #
bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri
 
Some people that attend the period reenactment gatherings have an old camera like yours, but have removed the lens and have their DSLR mounted inside. That way they can not only look like they are taking photos, they can actually be doing so. It also looks more real when you have someone dressed up in period costume and the big old bellows camera as opposed to a period photographer holding a new digital camera. Kind of detracts from the flavor of the moment. My friends are into the reenactment stuff and authenticity is a really big deal even when it comes to dress buttons being period correct or making sure that during a performance (like a shoot out) you don't have 1860's Civil War bushwackers fighting locals who are wearing 1880's clothing.

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Jul 6, 2012 16:34:18   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
How fun!

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Jul 6, 2012 17:26:56   #
Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California
 
bikinkawboy wrote:
Some people that attend the period reenactment gatherings have an old camera like yours, but have removed the lens and have their DSLR mounted inside. That way they can not only look like they are taking photos, they can actually be doing so. It also looks more real when you have someone dressed up in period costume and the big old bellows camera as opposed to a period photographer holding a new digital camera. Kind of detracts from the flavor of the moment. My friends are into the reenactment stuff and authenticity is a really big deal even when it comes to dress buttons being period correct or making sure that during a performance (like a shoot out) you don't have 1860's Civil War bushwackers fighting locals who are wearing 1880's clothing.
Some people that attend the period reenactment gat... (show quote)


I actually worked one of the "old time photo booths" for a friend of mine back in the mid 70's. We had sheet film positive paper we loaded into the camera with the 8X10 sheet film holders. Then processed them when we were done. The people had their photo taken, and came back later in the day for the print. Couldn't make copies back then. If they required 10 photos, you had to load 10 sheets of material in the film holders.

To answer the question about the two cylinders, I am not familiar with them.One may be used as an air release for the shutter.

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Jul 6, 2012 17:50:36   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
Swede wrote:
I got this at an estate sale of a good friend, paid $50 for it because I thought it was pretty neat and I was going to see if I could get it to work. Well that was over a year ago and I still don’t know anything about it. All I know is what it says on the small metal plate on its front.
Any help would be appreciated, and is it worth anything, I’d never sell it but for insurance stuff. Also what size of negative does it take and can you still get the negatives.
Thanks
Swede


I have two. First 1938 Graphic Crown View. Graphic View II from the early 40's. Also a shot of the Ground Glass with the lens open and showing the car across the streetl







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