Mark M USN RET wrote:
I'll be upgrading my D810 to the D850 and currently use the Sigma 150-500mm with the D810. I'm pretty happy with that lens, but being obsessed with sharpness looking to upgrade the lens as well. I primarily use the lens for bird/wildlife and sporting events. I've checked a bunch of reviews but still not convinced one way or the other. Interested in UHH thoughts. Thanks
I'll follow this thread because I too am faced with the same decision. I have heard the Sigma zoom rotation is opposite of Nikon and the Tamron is the same. This is making me lean towards the G2 when you add in the extra reach.
Have you checked to see what a used prime lens like a 400mm might run? Stick a 1.4x on it and you'd have 560 mm that would be sharper than any zoom lens. Just a suggestion if you're wanting to get the sharpest results.
the sigma is a good lens. But you do not want to put hiking shoes on a grey hound. Evern expensive hiking shoes.
Gene51 wrote:
The 810 out resolves the 150-500, the 200-500 and possibly the 150-600 Sport, which is the sharpest of the 3.
If you are looking at Nikon lenses this list that Nikon put together for the D800/D800E should be a guide for the D850. The 28-300, a popular lens among those who used it with their D3/3S, D700 and other 12 mp full frame bodies didn't even make the cut for the D800, so there is no reason to believe that it would be a good match for the D850.
http://d800.org/nikon-d800-and-d800e-recommended-lenses/There is no point in getting a lens of lower resolution with a 45mp body, so that rules out all the other lenses. The new 105 F1.4, Nikon's sharpest lens ever, should be amazing on the D850. Sigma Art lenses, the Sigma Sport 150-600, the Tamron 150-600G2 are among the sharper third party lenses that would work well with and allow you to use all that resolution.
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Exactly! Putting a zoom lens on a high resolution body makes no sense. If you want to use a zoom lens, 24MP or less is as far as you should go.
Remember, too, with the resolution on the D850, it should be eminently croppable.
Mark M USN RET wrote:
I'll be upgrading my D810 to the D850 and currently use the Sigma 150-500mm with the D810. I'm pretty happy with that lens, but being obsessed with sharpness looking to upgrade the lens as well. I primarily use the lens for bird/wildlife and sporting events. I've checked a bunch of reviews but still not convinced one way or the other. Interested in UHH thoughts. Thanks
The Sigma 150-600 Sport performs exceptionally well on the D810, even with the TC-1401 tele-converter. No reason why it shouldn't be as good, or better on the D850.
Better build quality and more glass than it's competitors.
Bob
Who did you order the 850 from. Is there a long wait. I have been waiting, my camera shop did not give me a date to expect delivery
Got mine from Beach Camera through Amazon. Pre-ordered on 8-24 after receiving email from Nikon that it was being released. Beach is no longer showing a listing on Amazon. Amazon is taking orders for November ship date and other large dealers aren’t saying when they will receive inventory so it could be a long wait.
Lucius wrote:
the sigma is a good lens. But you do not want to put hiking shoes on a grey hound. Evern expensive hiking shoes.
The Sigma Sport is more than a good lens, it's an excellent lens, and if you haven't used it on a high resolution camera, how would you know?
That camera will display the best either of those lens can deliver, but neither will reach the potential that camera can take.
Nikon and all top of the line lenses are built like a tank, why the expense… Check resale prices. People are only willing to pay a lot for something used they trust will still be sound.
Not ridiculous, it's s pretty common knowledge:
1. System resolution is a combination of the camera's and the lens's resolution.
2. Zoom lenses involve design compromises. They do not perform equally throughout their range.
3. A high resolution sensor will reveal the shortcomings of an inferior lens. You will just end up with bigger files.
4. When you look at any ranking of lenses, the best zoom lenses are way down the list behind the best primes. See DxOMark.
Nikon and other camera manufacturers would like you to believe that more resolution will make your pictures better. It's how they make money. Would you like some more Kool Aid?
joer
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Mark M USN RET wrote:
I'll be upgrading my D810 to the D850 and currently use the Sigma 150-500mm with the D810. I'm pretty happy with that lens, but being obsessed with sharpness looking to upgrade the lens as well. I primarily use the lens for bird/wildlife and sporting events. I've checked a bunch of reviews but still not convinced one way or the other. Interested in UHH thoughts. Thanks
The D850 has a pixel density increase of 20% over the D810 so just about any lens will be slightly sharper. The Nikon 200-500 has a slight edge over the Sigma "C" and is slightly less sharp than the "S" version.
I think the differences are not significant and could easily be equalized in post processing. Spend your money on a good photo editor and lessons on how to use it.
selmslie wrote:
Not ridiculous, it's s pretty common knowledge:
1. System resolution is a combination of the camera's and the lens's resolution.
2. Zoom lenses involve design compromises. They do not perform equally throughout their range.
3. A high resolution sensor will reveal the shortcomings of an inferior lens. You will just end up with bigger files.
4. When you look at any ranking of lenses, the best zoom lenses are way down the list behind the best primes. See DxOMark.
Nikon and other camera manufacturers would like you to believe that more resolution will make your pictures better. It's how they make money. Would you like some more Kool Aid?
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I guess Nikon doesn't have any common knowledge then, since they have zoom lenses listed in the D850 brochure, along with Thom Hogan's list.
You have to realize that higher end zoom lenses are getting pretty close to primes, in sharpness, at a much lower cost and more versatility for the average shooter.
The first 4 were all shot with the 850 and 28-300 Nikkor lens. I always shoot raw so I can edit in PS but for some reason (probably my inexperience with new camera) I had the camera set to JPEG in AF mode, hence a little underexposed images.The last 2 were shot with Nikkor 24-70...
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