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Sep 18, 2017 06:07:44   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Toment wrote:
I think "reflex" refers to the prism in the camera which allowed the viewer to look directly through the lens.
Sony made that type at one time. Today Sony has EVF's which do not use a direct lens view.


The EVF is a direct lens view. The EVF image comes from the sensor which is what the lens directs the image on to - without some flipping mirror in the way.

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Sep 18, 2017 06:12:44   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The larger Sonys look just like DSLRs, but Sony calls them DSLR-like. The big advantage of the SLR over older cameras was the view coming right through the lens. Mirrorless cameras still give you the view right through the lens. Couldn't they be called DSLRs?

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The exposure (light) goes through the Mirror unlike most other DSLR's that do not do so. There for it is DSLR like. The A77, A77II, A99, and A99II and many others work this way.

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Sep 18, 2017 07:50:02   #
Boentgru Loc: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
 
Toment wrote:
I think "reflex" refers to the prism in the camera which allowed the viewer to look directly through the lens.
Sony made that type at one time. Today Sony has EVF's which do not use a direct lens view.


Well, does not the EVF present the view through the camera lens? The view that the sensor (formerly the film) actually 'sees', unlike the SLR which uses a mirror and pentaprism to process and present an image.

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Sep 18, 2017 08:04:34   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The larger Sonys look just like DSLRs, but Sony calls them DSLR-like. The big advantage of the SLR over older cameras was the view coming right through the lens. Mirrorless cameras still give you the view right through the lens. Couldn't they be called DSLRs?

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Sure, but then they wouldn't be selling zillions of them to all the GAS sufferers.

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Sep 18, 2017 08:12:08   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
dpullum wrote:
The real confusion comes with the fact that the interchangeability of lenses makes them SMLR. M for multi. But as this question like a Rose by any other name is just a thorny!! I have an Sony A-65

Jerry, now that it is snowing in the Catskill Mountains, has too much time in front of the fire place reading old photo magazines published before they all stopped publishing in paper. Wonder if they fired the team that came up with the phrase "DSLR Like?"


no snow yet,

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Sep 18, 2017 08:22:15   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
repleo wrote:
The EVF is a direct lens view. The EVF image comes from the sensor which is what the lens directs the image on to - without some flipping mirror in the way.


Correct, but the view is digital, not optical.

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Sep 18, 2017 08:23:07   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Boentgru wrote:
Well, does not the EVF present the view through the camera lens? The view that the sensor (formerly the film) actually 'sees', unlike the SLR which uses a mirror and pentaprism to process and present an image.


Yes, but digital, not optical, that's all.

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Sep 18, 2017 08:35:13   #
ELNikkor
 
The term "mirrorless" seems a bit off, being as it describes a camera by something it DOESN'T have. A better designation might be "EVF", as it DOES have an Electronic View Finder.

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Sep 18, 2017 08:40:19   #
Boentgru Loc: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
 
Toment wrote:
Correct, but the view is digital, not optical.


The sensor is also 'digital', so the EVF is a representation of what the sensor 'sees' in a digital camera. In fact, in most cases, it is what the sensor 'sees'.

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Sep 18, 2017 08:42:15   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
ELNikkor wrote:
The term "mirrorless" seems a bit off, being as it describes a camera by something it DOESN'T have. A better designation might be "EVF", as it DOES have an Electronic View Finder.
A bridge camera typically also has an EVF; ILC is important part of the distinction. Also, not all MILCs have an EVF - some, especially early ones - have LCD only. Thus "EVF" is simultaneously too inclusive in some areas and not inclusive enough in others.

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Sep 18, 2017 08:45:51   #
ELNikkor
 
The term "mirrorless" seems a bit off, being as it describes a camera by something it DOESN'T have. A better designation might be "EVF", as it DOES have an Electronic View Finder.

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Sep 18, 2017 08:51:37   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
ELNikkor wrote:
The term "mirrorless" seems a bit off, being as it describes a camera by something it DOESN'T have. A better designation might be "EVF", as it DOES have an Electronic View Finder.

Please read the post immediately above yours. "EVF" includes some cameras which are not MILC {Canon SX-50, for example} and excludes some cameras which are MILC {Pentax Q-S1, for example}

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Sep 18, 2017 09:00:35   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Boentgru wrote:
The sensor is also 'digital', so the EVF is a representation of what the sensor 'sees' in a digital camera. In fact, in most cases, it is what the sensor 'sees'.


Correct.

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Sep 18, 2017 09:21:26   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Darkroom317 wrote:
You can with the depth of field preview button that most SLRs have. It stops down the lens



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Sep 18, 2017 09:36:08   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
Toment wrote:
Correct, but the view is digital, not optical.


.... and the capture is digital, not optical

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