Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado

Does anyone have any words of wisdom on how much of an upgrade the 6D Mark II would be over a Canon 70D? I'm thinking of upgrading. I have not gone to a full frame because I do like to do wildlife and the crop aspect of the 70D is a plus. I would say however that 80% of my photography is not wildlife. I like my 15-85 lens for the 70D and I think the 24-105 that I would most likely go with on the 6D II would be about the same as far as what I get in the photo. I like my 70-300 on the 70D for wildlife. Unfortunately, the 15-85 will not work on the 6D. I would like to get better results in low light which I think the 6D would do a better job, but just how much better I don't know. Of course there is the 5D Mark IV. If I wanted to drop the extra $'s, but I sort of like my touch and swivel screen & the smaller size of my 70D. So, I just don't know what to get! I want a 2nd body as we are taking a trip to Patagonia soon & I plan to do a safari in the next year or 2 & I know having a second body is good just in case one fails. Just looking for words of wisdom....

Japakomom Loc: Originally from the Last Frontier

I think you would be happy with the 6DII. That paired with the new 24-105 could make some beautiful photos!

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Have you looked at the reviews, particularly the comparative sections?

The Digital Picture - 6DII Review
Ken Rockwell - 6DII Review

Personally, I think the better "play" for a move to fullframe is a good conditioned, used 5DIII rather than the expense of either of the new 6DII or 5DIV models. Same for a used copy of the older 24-105L. Although, I find the vII lens superior and possibly the money saved from a new camera body can be used on a new lens. The VII model has been out for a year, you might find used copies here too.

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

Check out the Pentax K 1, plenty of resolution and it lets you use crop senseor lenses too, it's the ff camera with the most bang for your buck!!

EdU239 Loc: The Northeast

Based on experience using my 80D and a rented 6D on a project shot in low light and no flash, I would say you would definitely see the difference in low light moving to a full frame. I have also done some shooting with a rented 5D III and liked the images a lot. I did find the screens on the 6D and 5D/III frustrating after a year with the 80D. Also, having started with a cropped frame DSLR, the APS-C sensor is what I think of as standard, so the difference in FoV and effective focal length with a Full Frame takes some getting used to.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

I can't speak to the 6D mk II, but the original 6D was actually better than the 5D III in low light. It was an excellent camera without to many bells and whistles, it was not good for sports or action nor birding. I got rid of it and my 7D mk II when I moved up to the 5D mk iv which meets my needs in all situations.

Pkfish Loc: Wilson Wy

I had the 6dmkii for a month and sent it back. I didn't like the autofocus on the flip screen. I actually liked my original 6d better. Some people love them.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

What do you intend to shoot with it? If it's still a lot of telephoto work (wildlife, sports & many other things), then you might want to stick with an APS-C camera, which allows you to use smaller, lighter, less expensive telephoto lenses. Just as an example, I often use a Canon EF 300mm f/4L IS USM a lot for sports... 2.5 lb., 9" long, 77mm filter diameter.... easily handheld and under $1500. But if I wanted to use my full frame camera, to get the same angle of view I'd need to break out an EF 500mm f/4L IS USM... and a sturdy tripod to sit the 8 lb. 15" long, 150mm-diameter-front-element lens that cost upwards of $8000. For someone doing a lot of telephoto work, an upgrade to an 80D might be more practical (and also would give roughly a stop higher usable ISO).

But if you plan to do a lot of wide angle shooting, then the 6DII or another FF camera would be great (though you may want to keep your 70D for telephoto work... in fact 6DII/6D control layout is similar enough to 70D/80D that they would be relatively easy to switch back and forth between).

One of the weaknesses of the original 6D was it's AF system... 11-points, only one of which was higher performance "cross type". Now the 6DII has largely inherited the 80D's more sophisticated and configurable 45-point AF system, with all points cross type, -3EV and f/8 capability at up to 27 points. The only thing is that in the full frame camera the AF array is pretty highly centralized within the image area, while in the APS-C 80D (and 77D, T7i) the same array covers a good portion of the image area.

I think the 6DII is the first full frame Canon to have an articulated LCD... a nice new feature. It's also a Touch screen (but I think your 70D's is to, isn't it?). The 6DII also gets Dual Pixel AF in Live View, a huge upgrade in performance (tho I think your 70D has that, too). It's also got "Flicker Free" mode, which is great when shooting under fluorescent and similar types of lighting, making for a lot fewer exposure problems. Not sure if your 70D has that (80D and 7DII do).

Still no built-in flash, like all other full frame Canon (yawn.... I almost never use the wimpy things anyway, on my cameras that have them).

Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado

What are you currently using? Have you used the flip screen on the 70D or 80D? I do not have a problem with my 70D focus on the flip screen.

Pkfish Loc: Wilson Wy

5dmkiv and 7dmkii. The 6dmkii was an impulse buy. I thought I would try it and return it if I didn't like it. It's easy to do. If you are a VIP360 member at Adorama(I think it costs $40 ish a year) you get 2 months to return an item. Plus a bunch more benefits. I really wanted the flip screen to work out as I like to take shots from different angles. I'm getting a little older and don't bend like I used to. Maybe when the ne 7dmkiii comes put it will have a flip screen. I've got a full house of bodies right now.

copladocus

I think I was the first Hog to purchase a 6D II. I like it. Yes, bigger, a bit heavier but that full frame is just wonderful. I was stepping up from a 10D. I like the flip out LCD screen and the touch sensitive surface is a nice addition. Sure the techno-geeks will tell you how it is a terrible disappointment in terms of noise and dynamic range but I find those complaints largely irrelevant in my work. If I was operating at the extremes they may be important but for me, with what I do they are complaining of "deficiencies" that are of little practical significance. One mentor used the term "inconsequential increments" to note such technical differences. I know it will take me quite a while before my skill set surpasses the limitations of this camera. When they do I will happily trade up to the current full frame state of the art camera. For now I am enjoying the great photos I am getting using the 24-105L II lens.

Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado

Thank you so much for your input. I have read that the noise is a little worse on the 6DII than the 6D at higher ISO. I still don't know if I want to go to the full frame. Like I said, I think I get pretty close to the same photo using the 15-85 on my crop as I would get with the 24-105 full frame as far as "wide angle". I'm not sure the correct term for I get as much in the frame! Now I'm actually thinking just going to the 80D. Maybe the 7D Mark II that is a crop sensor as well. I just don't know!

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

You might want to take a second look, I finally decided to take at the 6DII review and actually the ISO performance (noise) is very good. The 15 - 85 is an excellent lens but if you have a reason to step into full frame I certainly would not be afraid of the 6DII. It will out perform the original 6D and is only a step behind the 5DIV in ISO performance. None of Canon's crop sensors will come close in color depth or ISO performance, I owned the 7DII and was unimpressed, as I said earlier I got rid of it when I purchased the 5DIV mostly because of the noise I found in my images of birds in flight.

Here is a quick review from DXO, who for many are the authority on such matters.

http://www.dxomark.com/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-sensor-review-great-color-iso-performance/

Photolady2014 Loc: Southwest Colorado

Thanks again for the input. Someone mentioned that Adorama has a program that for $40 a year you can use a product for 60 days I think it is and still return. I may give that a try. In your opinion how much will a person miss the extra reach when using a lens like the
70-300 or 150 - 600? Maybe the better image will allow for more cropping and the extra reach will not be missed.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Well, there is a notable different in the reach of the lens, all I can say is that I was more impressed with the images that I got from my 5DIV than I was with my 7DII, I held on to the 7DII but when shooting eagles and comparing the significantly cropped images I was more impressed with the 5DIV than the 7DII, I would think that the new 6D would perform closer to the 5DIV than the 7DII would.