I have to agree with Just Fred. I have a Canon SX280 that I would take to to my grandson's events and the zoom lens got me to the action.
GQ
Loc: Windsor, Ontario Canada.
Who said any thing about "focus speed" ? Lens speed (F stop) is not the same as focus speed.
joer wrote:
Increasing the ISO does nothing for focus speed.
ligneus wrote:
Lens is such a common word yet time and again you see it written 'lense'. Is it that people are lazy or maybe just dopey!
Lense is accepted as an alternative spelling by Webster's Third New International Dictionary. But most other sources do not accept this spelling and it seldom appears in edited use. This obviously does not include modern newspapers which gave up on editing years ago.
I don't use it myself and think it is a deterioration of the English language like confusing "between" and "among" or using "impacted" instead of "affected" or mixing up "effect" and "affect" for that matter.
dsmeltz wrote:
Lense is accepted as an alternative spelling by Webster's Third New International Dictionary. But most other sources do not accept this spelling and it seldom appears in edited use. This obviously does not include modern newspapers which gave up on editing years ago.
I don't use it myself and think it is a deterioration of the English language like confusing "between" and "among" or using "impacted" instead of "affected" or mixing up "effect" and "affect" for that matter.
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Also confusion between "fewer" and "less", and my favourite hate, people who use "myself" instead of "me", even sometimes when combined with other names, instead of "I".
ligneus wrote:
Also confusion between "fewer" and "less", and my favourite hate, people who use "myself" instead of "me", even sometimes when combined with other names, instead of "I".
Sometimes "10 items or less" it is correct. When I am in line at the dollar store, the items often are actually lesser rather than fewer.
planepics
Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
ligneus wrote:
Lens is such a common word yet time and again you see it written 'lense'. Is it that people are lazy or maybe just dopey!
I'm not the OP, but the same words are spelled differently or objects have different terms depending on what part of the world you're from...not nice to knock people just because they don't speak or spell the same way as you do.
planepics wrote:
I'm not the OP, but the same words are spelled differently or objects have different terms depending on what part of the world you're from...not nice to knock people just because they don't speak or spell the same way as you do.
Even the Oxford English Dictionary says "lense" is not a word. Where in the world you are from does not affect this word choice. It is just wrong.
dsmeltz wrote:
Sometimes "10 items or less" it is correct. When I am in line at the dollar store, the items often are actually lesser rather than fewer.
If you think of "10 items" as an item itself, then less seems OK, or maybe because 'items' is indefinite, if it were '10 screwdrivers' it would be 'or fewer', as really it should be for '10 items'. It comes down to usage and getting used to something that according to the rules of grammar is wrong. Sometimes the correct version is a bit of a mouthful and for commercial purposes the shorter the better.
A lot of the problems with English come from immigrants learning the language on the fly, then their kids pick up their misuse of terms albeit with a perfect accent, some of them become radio and tv announcers even, and so the mistakes are perpetuated and become eventually the norm.
Hence 'eggcorns'.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/01/411231029/here-are-100-eggcorns-that-we-say-pass-mustard
ligneus wrote:
If you think of "10 items" as an item itself, then less seems OK, or maybe because 'items' is indefinite, if it were '10 screwdrivers' it would be 'or fewer', as really it should be for '10 items'. It comes down to usage and getting used to something that according to the rules of grammar is wrong. Sometimes the correct version is a bit of a mouthful and for commercial purposes the shorter the better.
A lot of the problems with English come from immigrants learning the language on the fly, then their kids pick up their misuse of terms albeit with a perfect accent, some of them become radio and tv announcers even, and so the mistakes are perpetuated and become eventually the norm.
Hence 'eggcorns'.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/01/411231029/here-are-100-eggcorns-that-we-say-pass-mustardIf you think of "10 items" as an item it... (
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It was a joke referencing the qualitative aspect of the word "less" When it refers to the number of items it should be fewer.
dsmeltz wrote:
It was a joke referencing the qualitative aspect of the word "less" When it refers to the number of items it should be fewer.
Sorry, went over my head!
Languages grow, change etc. Just like a living thing. There are a bushel basket of PhDs who specialize in the history and development of language.
What is correct changes, what is slang can go to main stream, then correct English etc.
If all you have to worry about in your life is "lens" vs "lense" your life is pretty good.
Put it aside, calm down and put your favorite lens/lense on your favorite camera body and go take some pictures.
If your are lucky you will get some great images and they will be great no matter how you spell it.
The standardization of English spelling didn't even start until the 18th Century when Samuel Johnson published his Dictionary of the English Language (1755). Then the other dictionaries came along, and some disagreed as to spellings.
Get some reproductions of original letters etc from the founding fathers and others of their time. The spellings are all over the place since most, even those with excellent educations, spelled everything phonetically. Think about that, phonetic spelling of the same word as pronounced by someone from New England and an upper class planter from the South.
"If all you have to worry about in your life is "lens" vs "lense" your life is pretty good."
It's more an interest than a worry, and it doesn't mean that's 'all' I have to worry about! A bit like a musician pointing out when someone played a bum note.
planepics
Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
This topic has, I'm my opinion, gotten way out of whack. I'm going to un-watch this, but in the meantime I'm going to e-mail my niece, who is working on a Ph. D in Linguistics at The Ohio State University, and ask her opinion on 'lens' vs. 'lense.' It seems that many posts supposedly on photographic subjects on the entirety this site become nothing more than pissing contests among egotists not unlike our illustrious leader who I have to endure for at least another three years....
"nothing more than pissing contests among egotists not unlike our illustrious leader"
Well no, it's just a little discussion on grammar for those who are interested, nothing wrong with that.
"illustrious leader", now if you're looking to start a real pissing contest!
GQ wrote:
Who said any thing about "focus speed" ? Lens speed (F stop) is not the same as focus speed.
Not the SAME - but there is a fairly close correlation ....
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