ChrisT wrote:
I think not ....
If it provides me with what I am looking for and if I have the headroom in my checkbook, absolutely; yes I would and not look back. This is what I do and nothing else comes close to that level of devotion in my life besides my family.
No matter what camera you buy, the expense is a sunk cost and learn to accept that. If you attempt to amortize that cost over X number of pictures over Y number of years and say you can't justify it on that basis, then you are not passionate enough about the art and the opportunities awaiting you. Photography should not be about a cost/benefit analysis. If it is, bring those questions up with your tax accountant. Otherwise learn the piss out of your current model and use it until you have progressed enough to have earned the next upgrade.
asiafish wrote:
Whether it is worth it again depends on what you want from it. Will the top-of-the-line model be worth it over the base model? It depends entirely on what you want.
Using Canon full frame as an example, the top-of-the-line newest 1Dxwhatever is certainly better at many (most) things than the legacy 6D, but is it better for you? If you shoot sports or birds, then it probably is. You travel a lot, the 6D is likely better and on account of its light weight and excellent low-light capabilities is perhaps the best Canon DSLR of all for travel.
The Nikon Df is inferior in every specification, not to mention more expensive than the D810, but that doesn't stop many photographers from really enjoying its retro control layout and dials that can be preset with the camera shut off (I love mine and converted its focusing screen to an old-style split image). Even the newest D850 would still be "less fun" for me to use than the Df, despite its many advantages.
Leica is probably the best example of an over $5000 camera. Nobody really "needs" a Leica rangefinder, and while the image quality is outstanding, Leica's sensors are no better than Sony's or Canon's (no worse either in image quality, though deficient if comparing spec sheets). Leica's lenses are all outstanding, and outstandingly expensive, but as one example Canon's newish 35mm f/1.4 L II is every bit as good as Leica's 35mm f/1.4 Summilux at roughly 1/3 the price (and twice the weight and three times the bulk). Of course, Nikon, Sony, Canon and the like don't offer a proper rangefinder, and until they do photographers who like rangefinders will keep buying Leicas.
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A great point, "nobody needs a Leica". Also a great point is nobody needs a Canon 1DX or Nikon D5. Great photos were made with pre existing cameras. Who really needs a Bugatti or Corvette or maybe even a BMW One Series?Who needs a cruise?
Dennis
If I had a bit more than 10 times that amount, I'd "plonk" it down on the camera I want, along with a few lenses for it.
--Bob
ChrisT wrote:
I think not ....
ChrisT wrote:
Do not allow your bigotry, your intolerance and your hatred to be your guiding light.
Isn't that what you are doing? I thought the person has the skill level to be able to use the tool. Somehow that escaped you.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Mary Kate wrote:
Isn't that what you are doing? I thought the person has the skill level to be able to use the tool. Somehow that escaped you.
I don't consider myself a bigot, at all, Mary Kate ...
Nothing escaped me ....
I am quite astute ....
It was a question for the masses ... the masses have answered ....
ChrisT wrote:
I don't consider myself a bigot, at all, Mary Kate ...
Nothing escaped me ....
I am quite astute ....
It was a question for the masses ... the masses have answered ....
Thank you I now know you are ASS tute.
rook2c4 wrote:
As I take on average less than 1,000 shots per year, I just can't justify spending $5,000 on a camera. Let's say I get about 15 years of use out of the camera... the estimated cost per image is still quite high when one does the math. And that's not including the cost of memory cards, external drives, and various photography accessories I may wish to purchase over that 15 year period. Then again, I'm just a hobbyist. The money I spend on camera equipment is not some kind of unavoidable business expense. I don't need to buy a $5,000 camera.
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rook, No disrespect, but are you an accountant by trade? (cost per image...wow)
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Mary Kate wrote:
Thank you I now know you are ASS tute.
Do not allow your bigotry, your intolerance and your hatred to be your guiding light.
starting anew wrote:
I'm scrolling down, reading the comments, mildly interested while drinking my tea, only to see the comments get ugly. Why?
Check the name of this forum. It's UGLY Hedgehog... not PRETTY Hedgehog.
Just don't let it get you down. Sometimes you have to wade through a lot of piles to find the pony.
dennis2146 wrote:
A great point, "nobody needs a Leica". Also a great point is nobody needs a Canon 1DX or Nikon D5. Great photos were made with pre existing cameras. Who really needs a Bugatti or Corvette or maybe even a BMW One Series?Who needs a cruise?
Dennis
Well, I would rather have the cruise than any of those other toys. I have the camera I want.
ChrisT wrote:
Do not allow your bigotry, your intolerance and your hatred to be your guiding light.
I had a brother-in-law who owned a custom cabinet shop. He had nothing but Delta power tools. He could do a great job with non-Delta power tools, but the Delta's just gave him an edge over his competitors.
I responded to your quote about Delta tools by saying....his skill level has something to do with his success. Why does that have you so upset??
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
burkphoto wrote:
Check the name of this forum. It's UGLY Hedgehog... not PRETTY Hedgehog.
Just don't let it get you down. Sometimes you have to wade through a lot of piles to find the pony.
I see that, now ...
BTW, you are a bit late ... it ALREADY got me down - yesterday ....
Regardless, the helpful posts - by you, Alan Myers, and by CO - more than make up for ALL the BS!
Thanks, again, Burk ....
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Mary Kate wrote:
I had a brother-in-law who owned a custom cabinet shop. He had nothing but Delta power tools. He could do a great job with non-Delta power tools, but the Delta's just gave him an edge over his competitors.
I responded to your quote about Delta tools by saying....his skill level has something to do with his success. Why does that have you so upset??
Because of your insistent insinuation, I am not a skilled photographer ...
What do YOU know? ... You haven't seen any of my work ....
BTW
I don't think a FF body would be that much of an advantage to me, though ...
In those instances where I need something bigger than APS-C sensors afford me, I am much more likely to resort to film, and use either an MF camera, or something a bit bigger, like my 4x5 or my 5x7 ....
Do you NEED a $5k camera or do you WANT a $5k camera? Will you do any paying photography with the unit? If so, you can work out the ROI. Will you be able to use all of the capabilities of such an expensive camera? For 1/2 the price you can get a very competent DSLR that will challenge a pro photographer.
List the criteria you want/need in a camera and begin your research from that point. Then you can come to understand the cost/value analysis.
dennis2146 wrote:
Also a great point is nobody needs a Canon 1DX.
Dennis
Dennis, you are showing your personal bias here(I won't call it ignorance).
Don't confuse what YOU do with a camera with what someone else does with a camera.
I recently bought a Canon 1Dx. On Saturday night it made me $500.
Do I own other cameras...., you bet!? Yes, a pair of 7Dmkll's and a 5Ds. None of those cameras could have gotten the job done. They simply do not have the settings and capacity to do what I did in the way I did it with the 1Dx. They are just NOT enough camera!
Your statement tells any experienced photographer what you are NOT capable of shooting and what you probably DO shoot.
Out of 1000 shots, I'd much rather have 900 to pick from than 100, which is what you might get with a lessor camera!
Blanket statements are usually made within the knowledge of the maker.
Not so unlike saying, "great shot", when it's not!
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