Now, how do we deal with North Korea? (Page 12): On a leash...

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

DaveO wrote:

Careful what you wish for.

On a leash

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

dirtpusher wrote:

On a leash

You don't even own the shit you wallow in!

green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20

DaveO wrote:

We need a new sheriff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvZdVK913I

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

[quote=green]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvZdVK913I[/quote

Blazing Saddles - Wake and Bake Scene - Go to 1:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEKZ4sB2VzI

RAR_man Loc: stow, MA

i think NoKo acts the way they do because they have been given free rein over several presidents. I see nothing wrong with reacting tough when they have directly threatened the US without provocation. What's Trump supposed to do, ignore the threat or get them to think they will be annihilated if they try anything.

Were it up to me:
1) China is somewhat dependent on cheap coal (think slave labor) from NoKo. I'd continue to cut off all trade to NK...and GIVE China coal at a rate equal or better than what they get from NK

2) I'd pull all US troop off the DMZ to get them out of harms way should NK do something stupid

3) I'd arm SK to the teeth to deter NK from overrunning the DMZ and also beef up our Naval and Air Force in the region

Honey vs. vinegar? Let's see, clinton tried that. Gave $6B to NK to get them stop nuclear endeavors and built hydro plants. Where did that get us? We all know that the Kim dynasty is tainted by madness. How else can one explain starving the people, feeding the army, threatening a super-power (us), killing family members to stay in power, feeding some to dogs (which in turn, likely feed the army!). Truly irrational behavior.

No ones going to convince me that past US policies toward NK have been successful or will be successful in the future. To date, Trump and Mattis have done nothing wrong wrt to NK. They put NK on notice that bad behavior will neither will be rewarded or ignored. Look what ignoring did in Europe prior to WWII.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

ken hubert wrote:

You don't even own the shit you wallow in!

I know Everytime I make a deposit you run in an Waller in it take it home make dingle berries. For your tv snacks an even take the smell with you. Leaving nothing.

RAR_man Loc: stow, MA

dont know what that means

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

green wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvZdVK913I

I knew exactly what is was before opening! LOL!

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

[quote=Texcaster][quote=green]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvZdVK913I[/quote

Blazing Saddles - Wake and Bake Scene - Go to 1:47

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joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois

Wrangler wrote:

I would be interested in your thoughts.

The South Koreans are now more afraid of us than they are of North Korea.

The only rational possible solution is to engage in talks with out placing conditions on them in advance. I'm sure we can make them an offer they can't refuse. After all, isn't that how we maintain relations with all of our allies and others

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

joer wrote:

The South Koreans are now more afraid of us than they are of North Korea.

The only rational possible solution is to engage in talks with out placing conditions on them in advance. I'm sure we can make them an offer they can't refuse. After all, isn't that how we maintain relations with all of our allies and others

Seems to me the only possibility is to buy them off. It was done once before (for 6 billion dollars, if I remember correctly).

It is an unpalatable option among many more unpalatable ones, and one I don't like any more than anyone else.

Someone suggest something better.

Please....

ken hubert Loc: Missouri

[quote=Twardlow]Seems to me the only possibility is to buy them off. It was done once before (for 6 billion dollars, if I remember correctly).

It is an unpalatable option among many more unpalatable ones, and one I don't like any more than anyone else.

Someone suggest something better.

And thank you Mr. Chamberlain! We knew you are a coward.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

RAR_man wrote:

i think NoKo acts the way they do because they hav... (show quote)

You say "Trump and Mattis" as though they are on the same page. I don't believe they are. I think Putin is smart when he says don't back Kim against a wall. Trump shouldn't threaten with threats that are not credible. We are not going to do a preemptive attack, and we aren't going to refuse to trade with anyone who trades with NK. A lot of really smart people have been working on this since long before the current Kim took power. If you think you have a simple or easy answer, I can guarantee you are wrong without even hearing it. I don't see WWIII happening unless we force Kim's hand or he believes we are forcing his hand.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Twardlow wrote:

Seems to me the only possibility is to buy them off. It was done once before (for 6 billion dollars, if I remember correctly).

It is an unpalatable option among many more unpalatable ones, and one I don't like any more than anyone else.

Someone suggest something better.

Please....

I'm sure we need a "carrot and stick" approach. I'm not nearly clever enough to know what should be the carrot and what should be the stick, and exactly how to apply them.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

[quote=ken hubert]

Twardlow wrote:

Seems to me the only possibility is to buy them off. It was done once before (for 6 billion dollars, if I remember correctly).

It is an unpalatable option among many more unpalatable ones, and one I don't like any more than anyone else.

Someone suggest something better.

And thank you Mr. Chamberlain! We knew you are a coward.

So what is your approach? Preemptive strike, the hell with collateral damage, we take our chances with the rest of the world? It seems like if it were up to you we wouldn't have a state department. Diplomacy does not equal appeasement. Appeasement is what every country in the world but France did when W went into Iraq.