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Sep 5, 2017 10:41:29   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
I sell professional and broadcast camcorders. What is amazing to me is a. Ustomers will spend thousands on a camera and lens then go cheap on a support system. You don't want something that can be knocked over easy.

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Sep 5, 2017 11:06:02   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The purpose of a tripod is to hold the camera steady while the shutter is open. Avoid those with flimsy legs. The head: ball-type or double swivel type - the important part is the tightness of the clamping and after use it can wear out. Legs have how many segments is a consideration - the important part is the clamp tightness and time to wear out. Tightening knobs - small, large, easy to get at. You might go to a camera store, if you have one, to try out. What others like might not be great fir you. Fingers big, stubby, thin, etc; same for hands, young & supple, old & arthritic.

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Sep 5, 2017 11:21:24   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
I took my camera and lens to a STORE, put them on several and picked one. I wanted it to let me shoot standing up (No bending over) without the extender up. I don't take it on long walks (did the Zoo) so I didn't buy a light one, Aluminum was fine.

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Sep 5, 2017 11:34:52   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Gene51 wrote:
Bottom line, if you think the right tripod is too expensive, you aren't ready for a tripod and anything you buy for $50, $100, $200 and maybe even $300 may not really serve your purposes. Getting a cheap, inadequate tripod is throwing money into the toilet, or worse, putting your gear at risk when it fails and your camera crashes to the ground.

If your needs are modest, like you only want to use it for landscape stuff with a normal to wide lens, you can get by with a lighter-duty tripod. If you a using any lens at high magnification, say 1:5 or up to 1:1, then you need to get the burlier tripod. Hogan's guidance on using top tube diameter as a guide to determining a tripod's stability is exactly how it's done. I use a tripod with a 37mm top tube for 600mm and macro, and a tripod with a 28mm top tube for landscape, close up, long exposures with shorter lenses. My big tripod cost me $525, and the smaller one was $310 - both without heads. If you think this is still too costly, you need to re-think the whole tripod thing.

Cheaper tripods will only add to the cost of the correct tripod later. And you will never hear someone complaining they bought "too much tripod" but you will see pages and pages of articles on how to make inadequate tripods more adequate. The advice ranges from using mirror lockup, shutter delay, remote shutter release, hanging a weight from the hook under the camera platform, etc. Those measures will help somewhat, but most will not dampen shutter vibration, the principal cause of loss of sharpness when you shoot between 1/25 and 1/200 second. Only a well-designed and adequate tripod will help that. Thick legs = stability. Load capacity, tripod weight, metal vs carbon - none of this matters and should not be used as criteria for tripod selection.
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I agree Gene. Contrary to modern sales pitches of lighter is better, my philosophy is that the heavier the better. In the 60's I used a Majestic Camera Stand (tripod) which I bought for my view camera and Nikon F. I had a choice of the lighter weight aluminum model and the heavy steel model. I chose the steel model and it proved to be the right choice. I remember one time I was photographing a mountain top Air Force radar site in a snow storm with 45 mph wind gusts. I extended the tripod to its full 12-foot extended height with a 4 X 5 view camera. Most of the exposures were at 1/25 second or less. There was no sign of camera movement when I cropped the pictures. You can't even attempt that with a light weight tripod.

Even with D5's, Hasselblads and other large DSLR's you will not be supporting the weight of a 4 X 5 view, but the principle that applies is the same; the heavier the tripod, the more stable it will be.

From the practical side and in the interest of full disclosure, I do have a relatively light weight travel tripod (3 1/2 lbs.) that is a compromise for when I must fly and have no other choice.

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Sep 5, 2017 12:01:47   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
Marly shen wrote:
Hello everyone ,
Nice to meet you ,I having reading this forum for a long time ,love it very much ,I like photography ,and I use most of my free time to have a photography outdoors ,but latest I have a question to ask for some advice ,I want to get a new tripod ,But I don't know how to choose the tripod ,Is there any Experienced one to help me judge? Have you ever heard about K&F concept ,and How about this ?
thank you very much

There is a lot of misinformation mixed in with some good advice in the responses above. Go to the Really Right Stuff web site and click on the "Learn" tab.
http://www.reallyrightstuff.com

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Sep 5, 2017 13:18:43   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
I looked at a K&F Concepts video on U-tube just now and from what I see, there is nothing outstanding about their design. The ability to set the extension at a 90-degree angle to the ground will provide no advantage. In fact, the weight of your camera could cause the whole thing to tip over easily. If you need to position your camera for a vertical format, that can be done with most ball heads while keeping the camera almost centered on the tripod support.

I did like the fact that the center column can be reversed so that the camera mount is below the top of the tripod and between the legs. That allows you to mount your camera upside down and support it down to ground level. This is not unique. Other tripods have the same feature, but it is a desirable feature. I also noticed that the feet are cone shaped. That allows it to plant itself in the ground, but on a hard floor, it will allow slippage and possibly scratch the floor. Better tripods have rubber feet that when screwed in expose ground spikes. I would pass on this design.

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Sep 5, 2017 13:38:56   #
williejoha
 
Ok Gene51 let me repose my comment. Go graphite composite. Depending on what you want to use it for decide wether you want center column or not. More stability without center column. Look at top tube diameter for load rating. The tripod is only half of it. Now you need to look for the proper head to mount your camera on to. Whole different subject.
So here you have it. Hopefully Gene51 is happy and you as confused as ever. Sorry.
WJH
WJH

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Sep 5, 2017 16:35:02   #
CO
 
Gene51 wrote:
Bottom line, if you think the right tripod is too expensive, you aren't ready for a tripod and anything you buy for $50, $100, $200 and maybe even $300 may not really serve your purposes. Getting a cheap, inadequate tripod is throwing money into the toilet, or worse, putting your gear at risk when it fails and your camera crashes to the ground.

If your needs are modest, like you only want to use it for landscape stuff with a normal to wide lens, you can get by with a lighter-duty tripod. If you a using any lens at high magnification, say 1:5 or up to 1:1, then you need to get the burlier tripod. Hogan's guidance on using top tube diameter as a guide to determining a tripod's stability is exactly how it's done. I use a tripod with a 37mm top tube for 600mm and macro, and a tripod with a 28mm top tube for landscape, close up, long exposures with shorter lenses. My big tripod cost me $525, and the smaller one was $310 - both without heads. If you think this is still too costly, you need to re-think the whole tripod thing.

Cheaper tripods will only add to the cost of the correct tripod later. And you will never hear someone complaining they bought "too much tripod" but you will see pages and pages of articles on how to make inadequate tripods more adequate. The advice ranges from using mirror lockup, shutter delay, remote shutter release, hanging a weight from the hook under the camera platform, etc. Those measures will help somewhat, but most will not dampen shutter vibration, the principal cause of loss of sharpness when you shoot between 1/25 and 1/200 second. Only a well-designed and adequate tripod will help that. Thick legs = stability. Load capacity, tripod weight, metal vs carbon - none of this matters and should not be used as criteria for tripod selection.
Bottom line, if you think the right tripod is too ... (show quote)


I would disagree that metal vs carbon doesn't matter. Carbon fiber dampens vibration much better than aluminum. I've compared them myself and tests have shown that carbon fiber tripods stop vibrating in approximately 1/5 the time of aluminum. I'm sold on carbon fiber.

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Sep 5, 2017 18:13:47   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
I have my old wood one and they are said to be better than carbon fiber.. Aluminum works fine.

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Sep 5, 2017 21:16:23   #
GEEPOPS
 
Okay just to be blunt a tripod is a tripod, it provides stability they all work so just buy one in your price point

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Sep 5, 2017 21:17:32   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Picture Taker wrote:
I have my old wood one and they are said to be better than carbon fiber.. Aluminum works fine.


Wood is very stable and solid, just heavy, and most have only 2 leg sections, making them less desirable than carbon to carry or stow. I used a wooden tripod with my 4x5 view camera in the early 70s, as a lightweight alternative to my steel Gitzo Studex which I used in my studio. It was more than fine. I will never use aluminum again - it telegraphs micro vibrations and steals sharpness. I had a 16 lb Bogen 3051 with a 3047 3 way pan head. Probably the worst tripod I ever owned. At the time, I thought, like many others, that the heavier the tripod the more stable it is. Such was definitely not the case.

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Sep 5, 2017 22:21:21   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Aluminum is getting a bad name here. The bending strength depends on the tube thickness and the bending modulus of elasticity. There is no material reason that aluminum can not be equivalent to steel. For equal tube wall thicknesses, of course steel is stronger in flexure. I think the clamping design is as important as the material of construction.

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Sep 5, 2017 22:44:59   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
Try craiglist I pick up a monfrato for
$40.00 ,new its about $300.00 and it looks like new just take your time and look.

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Sep 5, 2017 23:47:02   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Marly shen wrote:
Hello everyone ,
Nice to meet you ,I having reading this forum for a long time ,love it very much ,I like photography ,and I use most of my free time to have a photography outdoors ,but latest I have a question to ask for some advice ,I want to get a new tripod ,But I don't know how to choose the tripod ,Is there any Experienced one to help me judge? Have you ever heard about K&F concept ,and How about this ?
thank you very much


I'm a fan of Gitzo Tripods and Heads (two sets of legs, three heads). Not inexpensive. But with tripods you get what you pay for more than almost any other photo item. I often buy used and buy vintage 1980's - 1990's models to save a bundle! I also have a "modern" Manfrotto system with two heads but don't really like it so I plan to sell it.

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Sep 6, 2017 08:16:21   #
duane klipping Loc: Bristow iowa
 
Shop online for one to fit your budget pick a few and Google those to get an UNBIASED view. To those of you who have money to throw around spend hundreds on one if you want and brag about it to others who are easy to impress. I would rather spend that money on fast glass first way more useful in the long run and a better investment.

Just because it costs triple does not make it better. Same for vehicles my Mitsubishi Outlander sport gets me a lot of places a Land Rover does for a fraction of the cost.

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