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Jul 22, 2017 12:03:01   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Big Bill wrote:
Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man.

Anyway, I really like the idea, here.
It's perfectly OK for your man to do it, but the other guy can't, because he's not your man.
Politics, neatly summed up.

You're almost correct with the exception that I don't have any official who is "my man." I try to be quite analytic and judge based on performance even though I am a long time Repub.

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Jul 22, 2017 12:03:37   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The 2016 election did not produce an Electoral College 'landslide.' Trump's win was by one of the lowest vote margin in all of the history of US presidential elections. Check the actual number through US election history.


Leica User wrote:
A historic electoral landslide dumbass. That is how we elect our Presidents and Vice Presidents dumb ass. You did not go to school, did you? Too busy playing with your toy dump truck you lazy prick?

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Jul 22, 2017 12:17:11   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
John_F wrote:
The 2016 election did not produce an Electoral College 'landslide.' Trump's win was by one of the lowest vote margin in all of the history of US presidential elections. Check the actual number through US election history.


You need better sources:



— 1824 draw: Andrew Jackson, John Quincy Adams, William Crawford [a] 261 84 99 0.000 32.18%
— 1800 draw: Thomas Jefferson, Aaron Burr [b] 138 73 65 0.000 52.90%
56. 1876 Rutherford B. Hayes 369 185 184 0.003 50.14%
55. 2000 George W. Bush 538 271 266 0.009 50.37%
54. 1796 John Adams 138 71 68 0.029 51.45%
53. 1916 Woodrow Wilson 531 277 254 0.043 52.17%
52. 2004 George W. Bush 538 286 251 0.063 53.16%
51. 1884 Grover Cleveland 401 219 182 0.092 54.61%
50. 1976 Jimmy Carter 538 297 240 0.104 55.20%
49. 1968 Richard Nixon 538 301 191 0.119 55.95%
48. 1848 Zachary Taylor 290 163 127 0.124 56.21%
47. 1960 John F. Kennedy 537 303 219 0.128 56.42%
46. 2016 Donald Trump 538 304 227 0.130 56.50%

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Jul 22, 2017 13:17:47   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
WNYShooter,
YOU do too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_Electoral_College_margin

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/18/us/elections/donald-trump-electoral-college-popular-vote.html




Your info is incomplete, perhaps a lie of sorts by omission?

[quote=WNYShooter]You need better sources:

— 1824 draw: Andrew Jackson, John Quincy Adams, William Crawford [a] 261 84 99 0.000 32.18%
— 1800 draw: Thomas Jefferson, Aaron Burr [b] 138 73 65 0.000 52.90%
56. 1876 Rutherford B. Hayes 369 185 184 0.003 50.14%
55. 2000 George W. Bush 538 271 266 0.009 50.37%
54. 1796 John Adams 138 71 68 0.029 51.45%
53. 1916 Woodrow Wilson 531 277 254 0.043 52.17%
52. 2004 George W. Bush 538 286 251 0.063 53.16%
51. 1884 Grover Cleveland 401 219 182 0.092 54.61%
50. 1976 Jimmy Carter 538 297 240 0.104 55.20%
49. 1968 Richard Nixon 538 301 191 0.119 55.95%
48. 1848 Zachary Taylor 290 163 127 0.124 56.21%
47. 1960 John F. Kennedy 537 303 219 0.128 56.42%
46. 2016 Donald Trump 538 304 227 0.130 56.50%[/quote]

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Jul 22, 2017 13:23:59   #
Big Bill Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Did bammer leave a major deficit in the economy as bush did.


What?
Did you miss the fact that, under Obama, the national debt almost doubled to $20 Trillion?
Spend it here, spend it there, the end result is the same.
That debt is a major deficit in the economy.
I think what you're trying to say is a budget deficit, yes? Of course, with no budget, it's kinda hard to have an actual deficit.

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Jul 22, 2017 13:31:27   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Big Bill wrote:
What?
Did you miss the fact that, under Obama, the national debt almost doubled to $20 Trillion?
Spend it here, spend it there, the end result is the same.
That debt is a major deficit in the economy.
I think what you're trying to say is a budget deficit, yes? Of course, with no budget, it's kinda hard to have an actual deficit.

Whattttttt?? With a Republican Congress?? Economy in a shambles. Leftover war? What a horrible guy!

Did you miss the analysis for the contributing factors of the deficit or just grab a convenient statistic??

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Jul 22, 2017 13:32:00   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Big Bill wrote:
What?
Did you miss the fact that, under Obama, the national debt almost doubled to $20 Trillion?
Spend it here, spend it there, the end result is the same.
That debt is a major deficit in the economy.
I think what you're trying to say is a budget deficit, yes? Of course, with no budget, it's kinda hard to have an actual deficit.



An as in similar situations we had to spend our way out of a recession each time. Even under your hero raygun.

Here a nutter fact.

Congress present the budget .


Now WHO spends the money. The president or Congress. I'll be waiting to hear this one.

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Jul 22, 2017 13:33:24   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dirtpusher wrote:
An as in similar situations we had to spend our way out of a recession each time. Even under your hero raygun.

Here a nutter fact.

Congress present the budget .


Now WHO spends the money. The president or Congress. I'll be waiting to hear this one.


Needs a Kool-Aid break.

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Jul 22, 2017 13:34:53   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
I'm sure the expense of our ill conceived war had nothing to do with that $20T?



Big Bill wrote:
What?
Did you miss the fact that, under Obama, the national debt almost doubled to $20 Trillion?
Spend it here, spend it there, the end result is the same.
That debt is a major deficit in the economy.
I think what you're trying to say is a budget deficit, yes? Of course, with no budget, it's kinda hard to have an actual deficit.

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Jul 22, 2017 13:35:26   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 


So your sources fully back my post, thank you for confirming my numbers.


And to think, he won by a larger margin than John F. Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, and Thomas Jefferson. All because of the corrupted efforts of the DNC and the pompous arrogant campaign put forth by Hillary, Trump is our Prez., Hillary really thought she had it bought, lock, stock, and barrel, so she failed to work where she needed to work for the votes.

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Jul 22, 2017 13:37:17   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
lol... There are none so blind as those that refuse to see. -some idiot


WNYShooter wrote:
So your sources fully back my post, thank you for confirming my numbers.


And to think, he won by a larger margin than John F. Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, and Thomas Jefferson. All because of the corrupted efforts of the DNC and the pompous arrogant campaign put forth by Hillary, Trump is our Prez., Hillary really thought she had it bought, lock, stock, and barrel, so she failed to work where she needed to work for the votes.

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Jul 22, 2017 14:59:19   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
I was hoping Trump would be on his way out by now but he keeps stepping in it, drawing more ppl into his landfill that he'll keep Mueller busy for years. He's crooked as hell and everyone knows it now. The man is toxic, everyone he touches is infected with his corruption. His two younger children would be wise to stay away from him. (Not get into anything resembling business when/if of age.)

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Jul 22, 2017 17:36:54   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Leica User wrote:
No, stupid, he is not making excuses but when you have the opposition party attempting to destroy the very institution of the American presidency and the country along with it then it matters you sanctimonious prick. As stated before, you pricks that hate Trump, hate him more than you love this great country. That is a problem that will eventually eat you alive. The Democrat party is in total freefall and that is all you have.


It is not just the Dems or the Reps destroying the Presidency. It is, in fact, the President himself. He is incapable of carrying a thought, modify if in subtle ways to improve it, and then present it to the public. There will be no positive to come out of his Presidency.

And this from a Conservative!

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Jul 22, 2017 17:55:45   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
WNYShooter wrote:
So your sources fully back my post, thank you for confirming my numbers.


And to think, he won by a larger margin than John F. Kennedy, Jimmy Carter, and Thomas Jefferson. All because of the corrupted efforts of the DNC and the pompous arrogant campaign put forth by Hillary, Trump is our Prez., Hillary really thought she had it bought, lock, stock, and barrel, so she failed to work where she needed to work for the votes.


Who you trying to shit. Yourself

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Jul 23, 2017 10:54:27   #
Big Bill Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
DaveO wrote:
Whattttttt?? With a Republican Congress?? Economy in a shambles. Leftover war? What a horrible guy!

Did you miss the analysis for the contributing factors of the deficit or just grab a convenient statistic??


So, now2\, when faced with facts, there was actually a deficit?
Obama signed the spending bills, regardless of any rationalizing for why the House and Democrat controlled senate sent them to him. And many of those spending bills, while legally started in the House, actually came from the White House. or were instead spending increases by administration-controlled agencies.
Obama was far from the wonder worker you seem to think he was.

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