What will stop the Massive decline in Interchangable Lens Camera Sales?
Jul 9, 2017 11:35:25 #
Retired fat guy with a camera wrote:
I browsed through all the replies. No one mentione... (show quote)
A cell phone with decent camera isn't free. Many of these people use cell phone in the $700 range and upgrade about once every 2 year (the old phone is still in perfect condition). So it's not so much as money it's priority. But like I said declining sales of cameras is a good thing.
Jul 9, 2017 11:38:07 #
BebuLamar wrote:
A cell phone with decent camera isn't free. Many of these people use cell phone in the $700 range and upgrade about once every 2 year (the old phone is still in perfect condition). So it's not so much as money it's priority. But like I said declining sales of cameras is a good thing.
The phone is not free. You pay for it in the 2 year contract. So you get financing for 2 years.
Jul 9, 2017 11:39:06 #
Bill_de wrote:
Social comment -
How will we ever overcome things like racism and bigotry if we even divide people into "US" and "Them" based on the camera "They" use.
That is all.
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How will we ever overcome things like racism and bigotry if we even divide people into "US" and "Them" based on the camera "They" use.
That is all.
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Ahhhhy, yup!
Jul 9, 2017 11:49:19 #
Longshadow wrote:
Ahhhhy, yup!
I think the OP concern is on the racism side. The OP worries that there will be few people with interchangeable lens cameras.
Jul 9, 2017 12:02:01 #
How did we get from camera usage to racism? I have traveled and worked in 35+ countries around the world, and lived outside of the United States at various times for 13+ years. Ethnicity, gender, and national origin have zero to do with camera usage. If anything it is a segment of society who race from one thing to the next with no interest in optimizing their product, nor in some cases I suspect even realize where the quality and art enter the equation. That is why I mentioned working with people who have an actual interest in photography...they are the ones who ask questions about how and why and look intently at photos with a desire to understand...and then offer them guidance and advice commensurate with their level of interest. And in some cases it may help to reach out to people and donate a used but thoroughly functional camera and lens to a person who has a true interest but not the financial means to pursue that interest.
Jul 9, 2017 12:08:12 #
Peter LeesburgVA wrote:
How did we get from camera usage to racism? I hav... (show quote)
racism is the wrong word and I am sorry for that. I should have said discrimination.
Jul 9, 2017 12:17:03 #
Yes, iPhones and androids but also cost is a factor. Good lenses cost a fortune and are not really a good value unless you are a professional and need it. I also think it is about ergonomics. Sold off my Nikon gear because it was too, too heavy and bulky. My little Olympus M5-II takes great pictures and the small lens (28 - 150mm) even works for some birding. Oh the nikon was quicker and a beautiful work of art, but so heavy and "non nimble" it was hard to get good pictures.
Jul 9, 2017 12:21:12 #
suntouched wrote:
Any idea what kind of birds these are? Does the image hold its resolution when you enlarge it?
Baby birds. Sorry Suntouched the devil made me say that.
Seriously I have no idea.
Jul 9, 2017 12:34:53 #
Images hold up to 11 by 17" no problem. Not in the poster business. Guess to me, a choice of being practical or perfectionists. Practical photography is fun. Perfectionism gets frustrating and boring (to me).
Jul 9, 2017 12:36:16 #
Haydon wrote:
Part of that is education. The average cell phone user doesn't know what DOF is and what it can do, or the importance of lighting. Another example is the qualities of posing in portraiture. These are attributes that they do not understand nor often practice. It's up to us instill what art is, and what it can be and how an artist makes a picture and not just takes a picture.
Perhaps it is the people who have all the latest and greatest camera equipment who need to be educated. Cell phones and those that use them do so in a casual manner. They show or post those pictures to an audience that looks at them and moves on. They may get a family picture and it is a good picture. They are happy. Do they care about DOF exposure compensation or histogram? No. Aunt Sally and Grandma look great. End of story.
Jul 9, 2017 12:41:55 #
Jul 9, 2017 12:42:29 #
Mary Kate wrote:
Perhaps it is the people who have all the latest and greatest camera equipment to be educated. Cell phones and those that use them do so in a casual manner. They show or post those pictures to an audience that looks at them and moves on. They may get a family picture and it is a good picture. They are happy. Do they care about DOF exposure compensation or histogram? No. Aunt Sally and Grandma look great. End of story.
Yup! People have different needs and wants. Each of us have our own way of doing things. If the cell phone is getting popular then because more people prefer it that way. It's not better or worse. We should not be of concern. Don't we have enough cameras and lenses to last us a lifetime? Is there a problem if you are the only person that use camera with interchangeable lens? Wouldn't that actually a cool thing? The OP question has zero merit. If the sales of interchangeable lens camera is declining why do we want to stop it?
Jul 9, 2017 12:43:08 #
therwol
Loc: USA
rmalarz wrote:
Additionally, the various numbers of camera models each are producing causes one to pause and wonder why. 40-50 years ago, Nikon produced probably two models of camera, Nikon and Nikkomat.
--Bob
Additionally, the various numbers of camera models each are producing causes one to pause and wonder why. 40-50 years ago, Nikon produced probably two models of camera, Nikon and Nikkomat.
--Bob
Three. Nikon F, Nikkormat, Nikkorex.
Jul 9, 2017 12:46:57 #
DavidPine
Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
I think cameras and lenses have gotten so good that the only reason to upgrade to a newer model is only that you want to.
CHOLLY wrote:
Folks, sales of the tools we love to practice our craft and trade are dropping like a stone.
Why?
Many think Cell Phones with cameras are the problem... and to a certain extent this is true. But what professional photographer does a wedding with an iPhone? None... yet.
The problem with where the market is going is this; we as consumers are losing options and choices. The market is rapidly contracting, and if we aren't careful, many of us will be left out in the cold.
Why?
Many think Cell Phones with cameras are the problem... and to a certain extent this is true. But what professional photographer does a wedding with an iPhone? None... yet.
The problem with where the market is going is this; we as consumers are losing options and choices. The market is rapidly contracting, and if we aren't careful, many of us will be left out in the cold.
Jul 9, 2017 12:48:15 #
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