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Jul 3, 2017 20:29:34   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
amfoto1 wrote:
If they are both very high quality, multi-coated filters, should work fine. In fact, it's a common technique to do so, when the ND filter alone isn't quite strong enough... Or when wanting both to reduce light (ND) and cut some reflections or glare (C-Pol) in a scene. ND filter alone can't do that. OTOH, there are times when you don't want to reduce reflections because they are an important part of the image', so will want to avoid a C-Pol.

Test on your lens to see if you have problems with vignetting when the filters are stacked.

I also wouldn't use a "Variable" ND in combination with a C-Pol. Variable ND are essentially double stacked C-Pol and are already prone to uneven effects... adding a C-Pol to that would probably make for even worse unevenness issues.

Contrary to an earlier response, there's no problem adjusting a C-Pol when it's stacked with another filter.
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Thanks amphoto1, I'll let you all see the results when next I encounter the scenario.

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Jul 3, 2017 20:31:17   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
photoman022 wrote:
i wouldn't do it myself but i can't argue with the logic involved in the very first reply!


I plan to try it the next time I'm at a kinda choppy lake on a bright day.

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Jul 3, 2017 20:34:18   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
So put the ND filter in the front! WOW, that was really hard.


My thoughts too..I'll probably try it both ways and see what happens

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Jul 3, 2017 20:36:30   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
alandg46 wrote:
It can be difficult to remove the stack if the polarizer is on the the bottom


My thought was to place the ND First, and add on the C-pol.

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Jul 3, 2017 20:38:55   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
Meganephron wrote:
As several posters have said, put the polarizer on last in a stack. FIRAT IT WILL BE EASIER TO STAK THE ND and polarizer. It will be easier to remove the stack and in stack the filters. And finally, it is easier to set thee polarizer as you know it's the last element instead of fumbling around for it. Twist a whole stack to set a polarized mounted first could damage the filter or camera's mounting ring.


I concur, I is my plan to place the C-pol on last.

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Jul 3, 2017 20:40:17   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
fetzler wrote:
No problem. Two filters should not be a problem. You can have some issues with vignetting on super wide angle lenses and a very slight reduction in image quality as there is more glass.


Thanks for your input Fetzler.

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Jul 3, 2017 20:42:49   #
Photogirl17 Loc: Glenwood, Ark.
 
jcboy3 wrote:
It always depends on what you are trying to achieve. Slower exposure times; use an ND. Reduce or kill reflections, use a CPL. Do both, use both.

That said, you will want to put the CPL on first, adjust it for effect, then add the ND filter and adjust exposure. Of course, you want to ensure the CPL filter is in the original position after adding the ND filter. I use a silver Sharpie to place some marks on the outer ring of the CPL. It's easy to see where those marks are after adjustment, and return the filter to that position after adding the ND filter.

Note, I'm not saying to do the marking for this exposure; just having some marks for reference makes it easy to return to approximately the same position.

As an alternative, you could use tape to lock the CPL in place; piece of gaffers tape would do the trick. That's just another thing to fiddle with, which is why I just marked up the filter.

The marks can be easily removed with alcohol or goo-gone, if you decide to sell your filter in the future.
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Thanks for the input jcboy3...

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Jul 4, 2017 11:48:50   #
Meganephron Loc: Fort Worth, TX
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Or using a step-up ring and larger filters. Many ultra wide angle lenses are marginal at the widest angle; a second filter will likely vignette.


I agree that a step up ring may help at some wide angle lenses, however, some Nikon 14-24mm users report vignetting problem with a 145mm polarizer at 14mm but this doesn't appear to be a problem at 16 mm with same pollarizer. Vignetting can be fixed in post production if not too severe can retain natural look.

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Sep 16, 2017 14:15:10   #
Meganephron Loc: Fort Worth, TX
 
Leitz wrote:
No matter what shooting mode you choose, or whether auto ISO is on or off, if the meter is reading through the lens, of course it is compensating for the filters.


The auto ISO may negate the effect desired by adding light compensating for the filter. Aperture priority will assure you get the depth of field desired (same for Manual). Shutter prior may decrease depth of field. P And Auto modes just aren't appropriate.

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