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Jul 2, 2017 07:27:17   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
mborn wrote:
Even when we had a disk of a program we only rented the program read the info in the setup menu ownership belongs to the seller


Not quite, with adobe you bought a perpetual license and you can transfer that license to a new owner.

https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/transfer-product-license.html

The price of which is up to be negotiated by the current and prospective owner.

You can find similar agreements for other software, rights and agreements vary according to where you live. Germany has a statutory right for transfer of ownership. Other countries may have less comprehensive consumer protection laws and transfer of ownership is dependant on the license terms.

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Jul 2, 2017 08:34:17   #
Shoeless_Photographer Loc: Lexington
 
DavidPine wrote:
Remember all the crap about how Adobe would escalate the fee and how no one wanted to have their editing software out in the cloud somewhere? I wonder how many of those folks would step forward and recant? I've been with it since the beginning and I have and use many programs like Illustrator, InDesign and so on.



I saw someone from Australia say they've tripled their monthly charge recently. Doesn't surprise me a bit. Typical business decision: get the people addicted and locked in, then screw them.

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Jul 2, 2017 08:37:18   #
Cape Coral Joel
 
The cloud software is here to stay. The next move in that direction will probably be Windows 10. Have you ever seen Microsoft give away an OS? They have spent millions upgrading Windows 10, for free, and another one is due in September. How long will a company give away their flag ship software? It will follow Microsoft Office, which I believe, is subscription only . When they take their OS to a subscription based program you will be locked in and there won't be anything else to run all of our programs. You could go to Apple who likely will jump on the subscription gravy train. Just a thought, but get your credit card ready.

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Jul 2, 2017 09:33:35   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
Gene51 wrote:
Everybody who doesn't want to pay for software, or just pay once and use it forever, is delusional and very short-sighted. Software development relies on revenue and profit. Otherwise, the products are abandoned when companies go out of business. It may be great to have a perpetual license, but I have a closet full of such software - Lotus 123!, Multimate, Wordstar, dBase IV, Multiplan, etc - I can use them forever - but I don't even have a computer that will run them.

"Renting" is not a proper description. You are subscribing, not renting. You rent an apartment - same apartment year after year until you rent something else. The thing people refer to as a "rental" is just a different way of paying for software.

You either pay initially, then pay for ongoing upgrades, which the companies make sure come on a regular schedule (that revenue thing), or you pay for it once a month, or once a year (boy that sounds like an ongoing upgrade, doesn't it). Companies simply cannot survive with curmudgeons that refuse to upgrade and pay for newer, better versions. Having been a software developer in the past, I fully understand both sides of the argument. But at the end of the day, titles like CS6 will be orphaned, and then you will be forced to get on board. It's a good thing that there are many millions of people who have bought into the program - keeping the price down and the updates and upgrades coming.
Everybody who doesn't want to pay for software, or... (show quote)



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Jul 2, 2017 09:42:30   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Cape Coral Joel wrote:
The cloud software is here to stay. The next move in that direction will probably be Windows 10. Have you ever seen Microsoft give away an OS? They have spent millions upgrading Windows 10, for free, and another one is due in September. How long will a company give away their flag ship software? It will follow Microsoft Office, which I believe, is subscription only . When they take their OS to a subscription based program you will be locked in and there won't be anything else to run all of our programs. You could go to Apple who likely will jump on the subscription gravy train. Just a thought, but get your credit card ready.
The cloud software is here to stay. The next move ... (show quote)


You make a good point. But I wonder what percentage of computer users actually upgrade the operating system, except when buying a new computer. Microsoft doesn't give away the initial installation. I'm also unsure if the upgrades are free to their enterprise customers.

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Jul 2, 2017 10:08:03   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
It never ceases to amaze me. Photographers think nothing of paying $15 for a hamburger, $5 for a cup of coffee, $200 for a pair of sneakers' etc, etc, but balk at paying $10/mo. for the finest in image processing. Perhaps, it just simply the principal of the matter, but to me, it's a no brainer.

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Jul 2, 2017 10:40:30   #
Martino Loc: Northwest Florida
 
No one ever mentions that this subscription model was started I think by Gillette with razors. You buy and own the handle, but then are tied to getting heads that fit the razor, until they change the handle and you start again with new technology. Or you keep a cut-throat and stay with ancient technology and need a great deal of skill. ...or buy an electric razor, and you're into the static technology thing again.

...or grow a beard.

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Jul 2, 2017 10:56:54   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
There was a post recently about price changes in that CC package.


And it wasn't based in reality.

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Jul 2, 2017 16:03:11   #
whitewolfowner
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It looks like CC was a good idea for Adobe. They announced record profits.


Jerry:

Extortion has always been a very profitable business and that is what Adobe is doing in my book.

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Jul 2, 2017 16:58:39   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
Jerry:

Extortion has always been a very profitable business and that is what Adobe is doing in my book.


Love to see the explanation.

Gotta say seems like a win-win to me so far as I am concerned.

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Jul 2, 2017 17:25:55   #
Shoeless_Photographer Loc: Lexington
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Love to see the explanation.

Gotta say seems like a win-win to me so far as I am concerned.




Just wait till they start jacking up the price to see how much you're willing to pay like the oil companies do.

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Jul 2, 2017 17:35:30   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Shoeless_Photographer wrote:
Just wait till they start jacking up the price to see how much you're willing to pay like the oil companies do.


Been waiting close to 4 years now, so far still 9.99 a month, even though the naysayers predicted price rises every year.

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Jul 2, 2017 19:21:24   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
Shoeless_Photographer wrote:
Just wait till they start jacking up the price to see how much you're willing to pay like the oil companies do.


Price fluctuates with supply and demand. Price of oil and gas is going down.

Since "supply" of software is plentiful, and demand is high, the price will probably stay low.

Too bad Bernie didn't win the nomination and the election. Then everything would be free. Wouldn't that be great?

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Jul 2, 2017 22:28:37   #
Mary Kate Loc: NYC
 
Shoeless_Photographer wrote:
I saw someone from Australia say they've tripled their monthly charge recently. Doesn't surprise me a bit. Typical business decision: get the people addicted and locked in, then screw them.


Remember....NO is also an answer. If this is more than you can bear end the service.

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Jul 2, 2017 22:31:52   #
Mary Kate Loc: NYC
 
Shoeless_Photographer wrote:
Just wait till they start jacking up the price to see how much you're willing to pay like the oil companies do.


I guess you don't follow the market. When was the last time the oil companies "jacked" up the price??

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