Problem Buying New Camera Equipment (Page 3): :sm24:...

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado

Quantus5 wrote:

Yes, same solution for ALL camera brands. If you have a crop-frame camera and even remotely think you're going to upgrade to full-frame camera then buy full-frame lenses for your camera's mount type. Full-frame lenses (in general) are more expensive however it is a good investment.

Quantus5

bnsf wrote:

David Busch has a book on the Sony a99m2 due out soon. I like reading his bòoks. Grear author and he would make a great instructucter for customers who just purchased photo equipment.

Love the David Busch books. There are also several other good camera model/field guide authors that are good, but David Busch is the one I use. In general, for anyone serious about photography -- when you get a camera -- it is money extremely well spent to get a camera field guide that is specific to your camera model. I took an intermediate photography course and one of the first recommendations from the instructor, was to buy a camera specific field guide.

I'm always amazed at the people that go out and spend $1K or more for a camera and then complain about the lame manual that came with the camera (and it's not that the manufacturer may not have done a good job -- it's just that advanced cameras have tons of features and hard to do the camera justice in a manufacturer's camera manual). Spend the ~$20 bucks and get a camera field guide. :-)

BebuLamar

What was the problem? The mistake that the OP made is not common.

Winslowe

bnsf wrote:

I remember purchasing my first upgraded Full frame... (show quote)

Actually, it doesn't take much more sense than buying a windshield wiper blade or watch battery.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

bnsf wrote:

I remember purchasing my first upgraded Full frame... (show quote)

When Olympus went from full frame film to 4/3rds digital, they made an adapter for the film lenses. But they also put out a list of the film lenses that would work with digital at what what f-stops and, with zooms, at what focal lengths. And that list shows that most of the film lenses are very limited for digital because they were originally designed for full frame film and not digital.

Ltgk20 Loc: Salisbury, NC

As several have mentioned, the crop sensor lenses (the DT line in Sony nomenclature) will fit on the A99ii without issue and the camera will switch into APSC mode automatically. Also, with the 42mp sensor, even in crop mode it'll still shoot 18mp pics. With respect to lenses, every Minolta A mount lens produced since 1985 will AF on the camera just fine and Minolta made some really special lenses (80-200f2.8, sharper than the current Tamron 70-200; 100f2.0, 135STF, 500mm Mirror, 200f2.8, etc).

rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)

Please see my next post.....

rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)

CHG_CANON wrote:

But you can put every EF lens onto every EOS body from 1987 thru today and have full functionality which is not the same for Nikon's alphabet soup of lenses ....

Maybe for 87 and later, but the Nikons can use lenses dating back to the early late 50's / 60's (30 years earlier).... And please don't tell me they cannot, I have an F100 and F6 that will use pre AIS lenses; I have a couple of them that I DO USE (occasionally). For some reason, they also seem to work (manually) on my D810and 7200.... Of course back in the 50's and 60's, almost all of the Canon lenses were manufactured for them by NIKON, eh ?

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

rfmaude41 wrote:

Maybe for 87 and later, but the Nikons can use lenses dating back to the early late 50's / 60's (30 years earlier).... And please don't tell me they cannot, I have an F100 and F6 that will use pre AIS lenses; I have a couple of them that I DO USE (occasionally). For some reason, they also seem to work (manually) on my D810and 7200.... Of course back in the 50's and 60's, almost all of the Canon lenses were manufactured for them by NIKON, eh ?

I'm not sure of the relevance of this; a modern Pentax camera can use lenses back to the beginning of Pentax, but what people typically care about is modern lenses - the "what have you done for me recently?" thing.

brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY

Sorry, way to much to read from the very start.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

CHG_CANON wrote:

But you can put every EF lens onto every EOS body from 1987 thru today and have full functionality which is not the same for Nikon's alphabet soup of lenses ....

rfmaude41 wrote:

Maybe for 87 and later, but the Nikons can use lenses dating back to the early late 50's / 60's (30 years earlier)

If I mount an original K-mount lens, from 1975-83 on my K-30, which like all recent Pentax cameras lacks a mechanical linkage to read the aperture setting, I have to use the camera in manual mode only, and even then I have to press the "green button" to momentarily step down the lens, or else I will have no metering.

Is there a similar situation with Nikon?? I'm guessing HG_CANON, with his "full functionality", and rfmaude41, with his "can use" are talking past each other, applying different standards to determine which lenses are available for use on a modern camera.

sct198 Loc: West of Nathrop, Co

billnikon wrote:

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I have an idea that I used when I bought my A99. I went to ebay and bought old Minolta AF lenses, a 20 2.8, 24 2.8, 28 2.8, a 50 and 100 mm micro, a 50 1.4, I also bought the Minolta 200mm 2.8. These lenses will never wear out, all metal construction and work perfectly on your camera. They are inexpensive and sharp, sharp, sharp. Buy mint if you can, you will be happy.

Don't forget the 70-210 F4. You can get one for around $100 and is as good as any 70-200 out there.

dreamon

This is really taking off in a poor direction. The A99 II, when used with APS-C lenses, will crop--it just won't be full frame... resulting in an APS-C sized frame. The resulting file will be 18mp.

I don't know if it's auto or a menu choice (I don't have the camera in question), but your lenses should be perfectly useful until you build up a set of full-frame lenses. Like others here, I recommend some of the better, older Minolta lenses.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

[quote=dreamon]This is really taking off in a poor direction. The A99 II, when used with APS-C lenses, will crop--it just won't be full frame... resulting in an APS-C sized frame. The resulting file will be 18mp.

I don't know if it's auto or a menu choice (I don't have the camera in question), but your lenses should be perfectly useful until you build up a set of full-frame lenses. Like others here, I recommend some of the better, older Minolta lenses.[/quote

Those older Minolta AF lenses are the bomb. My Minolta 200mm 2.8 is a dream, love that lens, love the results. Solid construction and was built to last a long time. Just like my tootsie roll.

dhowland

rehess wrote:

But the body can handle the situation gracefully or not. Does a crop lens vignette on a Sony FF body? Essentially any Pentax lens, dating back to the 1950's, will work on any Pentax camera; the FF K-1 recognizes crop lenses and crops the sensor to match image circle provided by the lens {but user can over-ride this behavior}

I have the K1 and am a little baffled by this. I have it set to "full frame" but all of my lenses seem to handle that. Is the camera adjusting, or is it that my lenses are full frame? I know my 77mm limited is full frame and my old manuals are as well, being designed for 35mm. But I have a Tamron zoom that I thought would be made for a crop sensor. Should I leave the K1 in auto or just keep it at "full frame." I wonder if I'm missing some aberration that I'm inviting by now having it on auto.