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The Law Says President Trump Can’t Just ‘Fire’ Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller
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Jun 13, 2017 21:04:21   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/the-law-says-president-trump-cant-just-fire-special-prosecutor-robert-mueller/

According to reports, President Donald Trump is considering firing special counsel Robert Mueller who was appointed to lead the investigation between Trump’s campaign and Russia. Chris Ruddy, Trump’s friend and CEO of Newsmax told PBS’ Judy Woodruff that Trump is considering terminating the newly appointed special counsel after reports surfaced Trump allies were turning their fire on him. Mueller has come under some criticism for his close relationship with Comey, and over the fact that he interviewed for the job of FBI director after Trump fired Comey.

Jay Sekulow, an attorney on Trump’s personal legal team, told ABC News that the president has authority to take action if he wants. But, is this true? Can Trump really act by himself and fire the special prosecutor? Isn’t that the entire point of having Mueller appointed– to keep him independent? The law is pretty clear: Trump can not take unilateral action and fire Mueller (however, read this article to the end, there is a small wrinkle that Trump can explore).

According 8 CFR 600.7:

(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.

“In this case, the Deputy Attorney General since Attorney General (Sessions) is recused, can do it, and only for good cause,” Norm Eisen, an attorney and fellow at the Brookings Institute explained to LawNewz.com. “Now, Trump could order the Deputy Attorney General to do it. Something similar happened with Nixon during the Saturday Night Massacre, and both the Attorney General and the next in line refused to comply with the order. Finally after they were both fired Robert Bork complied. Of course, the result was that Nixon’s end was not far away.”

So that would mean that Trump would have to order Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to fire Mueller. If he refused to do it, Trump could fire him until he found someone at the Department of Justice that would agree to fire the special prosecutor. However, there is one small caveat that could give Trump’s lawyers some wiggle room.

“The tiny wrinkle is that people who believe in a robust form of the unitary theory of the executive — the idea that the president should control the exercise of all elective power — might argue that the president retains this authority or discretion given that the prosecutor is an executive branch official,” Michael Gerhardt, Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of North Carolina School of Law, told LawNewz.com In Meyers v. United States, the Supreme Court said that the President has the exclusive power to remove executive branch officials — and of course, the Justice Department is part of the executive branch.

“Indeed the Supreme Court decision in Myers could be read that way. I am guessing that some of the comments from Trump lawyers that he can do this himself could be based on that reading of the constitution,” Gerhardt explained.

Even if Trump’s legal team was able to convince a court that Trump is allowed to fire Mueller, there is no doubt a firestorm would ensue. Of course, similar action taken by President Nixon resulted in his undoing.

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Jun 13, 2017 21:14:46   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Keenan wrote:
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/the-law-says-president-trump-cant-just-fire-special-prosecutor-robert-mueller/

According to reports, President Donald Trump is considering firing special counsel Robert Mueller who was appointed to lead the investigation between Trump’s campaign and Russia. Chris Ruddy, Trump’s friend and CEO of Newsmax told PBS’ Judy Woodruff that Trump is considering terminating the newly appointed special counsel after reports surfaced Trump allies were turning their fire on him. Mueller has come under some criticism for his close relationship with Comey, and over the fact that he interviewed for the job of FBI director after Trump fired Comey.

Jay Sekulow, an attorney on Trump’s personal legal team, told ABC News that the president has authority to take action if he wants. But, is this true? Can Trump really act by himself and fire the special prosecutor? Isn’t that the entire point of having Mueller appointed– to keep him independent? The law is pretty clear: Trump can not take unilateral action and fire Mueller (however, read this article to the end, there is a small wrinkle that Trump can explore).

According 8 CFR 600.7:

(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.

“In this case, the Deputy Attorney General since Attorney General (Sessions) is recused, can do it, and only for good cause,” Norm Eisen, an attorney and fellow at the Brookings Institute explained to LawNewz.com. “Now, Trump could order the Deputy Attorney General to do it. Something similar happened with Nixon during the Saturday Night Massacre, and both the Attorney General and the next in line refused to comply with the order. Finally after they were both fired Robert Bork complied. Of course, the result was that Nixon’s end was not far away.”

So that would mean that Trump would have to order Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to fire Mueller. If he refused to do it, Trump could fire him until he found someone at the Department of Justice that would agree to fire the special prosecutor. However, there is one small caveat that could give Trump’s lawyers some wiggle room.

“The tiny wrinkle is that people who believe in a robust form of the unitary theory of the executive — the idea that the president should control the exercise of all elective power — might argue that the president retains this authority or discretion given that the prosecutor is an executive branch official,” Michael Gerhardt, Professor of Constitutional Law at the University of North Carolina School of Law, told LawNewz.com In Meyers v. United States, the Supreme Court said that the President has the exclusive power to remove executive branch officials — and of course, the Justice Department is part of the executive branch.

“Indeed the Supreme Court decision in Myers could be read that way. I am guessing that some of the comments from Trump lawyers that he can do this himself could be based on that reading of the constitution,” Gerhardt explained.

Even if Trump’s legal team was able to convince a court that Trump is allowed to fire Mueller, there is no doubt a firestorm would ensue. Of course, similar action taken by President Nixon resulted in his undoing.
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Hey numbnuts, no one ever said he was.
Only fake liberal news said it. The President didn't.
It was debunked all day today. As only idiots would believe such crap about the firing.

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Jun 13, 2017 22:38:10   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
An you believe the one that is an has told more lies than hillary had ever fold.

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Jun 14, 2017 06:01:39   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Hey numbnuts, no one ever said he was.
Only fake liberal news said it. The President didn't.
It was debunked all day today. As only idiots would believe such crap about the firing.

These idiots keep chasing fake news stories like little children. I guess they got nothing else to fall back on.

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Jun 14, 2017 10:18:43   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
dirtpusher wrote:
An you believe the one that is an has told more lies than hillary had ever fold.


WHAT????

Dennis

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Jun 14, 2017 10:52:24   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
So wingers approve of the contempt of thier fellow wingers. An we as the people don't deserve to know. Really good thinking. Lol

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Jun 14, 2017 11:22:58   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
Dirtbag wrote:
An you believe the one that is an has told more lies than hillary had ever fold.

dennis2146 wrote:
WHAT????

Dennis

Pay no attention. That guy is borderline illiterate. Guess which Party he supports?

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Jun 14, 2017 11:45:49   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Pay no attention. That guy is borderline illiterate. Guess which Party he supports?


I know he is fully devoted and locked into the Left Wingers but it is so hard to decipher some of his posts. I sometimes think he might be able to carry on a conversation in person but it sure is hard to read what he is trying to get across. A shame the Democratic Party gave up on educating our youth years ago.

Dennis

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Jun 14, 2017 11:47:45   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
dirtpusher wrote:
So wingers approve of the contempt of thier fellow wingers. An we as the people don't deserve to know. Really good thinking. Lol


Please, what are you talking about. Is your sentence related to some post on UHH today?

I have no idea what you are referring to but I do approve of the contempt that my fellow Right Wing associates have for the Democratic Party. You certainly deserve to know that.

Dennis

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Jun 14, 2017 12:10:43   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Please, what are you talking about. Is your sentence related to some post on UHH today?

I have no idea what you are referring to but I do approve of the contempt that my fellow Right Wing associates have for the Democratic Party. You certainly deserve to know that.

Dennis


Lol. Love how wingers love alter the story or question to avoid answering a question. Sewer boi bonified wingnutts.

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Jun 14, 2017 12:12:25   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Lol. Love how wingers love alter the story or question to avoid answering a question. Sewer boi bonified wingnutts.


There was no question to avoid answering. Help us out here with some type of question. No need to fly into a rage over it. Just pose a question.

Dennis

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Jun 14, 2017 12:21:13   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:
There was no question to avoid answering. Help us out here with some type of question. No need to fly into a rage over it. Just pose a question.

Dennis


Lol always did think you was lil short on thinking power. It was pretty much an insult question

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Jun 14, 2017 12:59:58   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Lol always did think you was lil short on thinking power. It was pretty much an insult question


Then that is why you didn't get an answer. I don't do insults much as I am a grown up. I will leave that to you as you are good at it.

Dennis

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Jun 14, 2017 14:07:29   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Then that is why you didn't get an answer. I don't do insults much as I am a grown up. I will leave that to you as you are good at it.

Dennis


But you enjoy handing them out. Good go weak one.

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Jun 15, 2017 00:42:48   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Then that is why you didn't get an answer. I don't do insults much as I am a grown up. I will leave that to you as you are good at it.

Dennis

I assume by now that you have seen the pointlessness of trying to converse with the "Dirtman." I've tried it to. All the best, Dennis.

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