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Jun 11, 2017 20:48:57   #
Jim Bob
 
Jmichaels wrote:
At the risk of being a chump, WTF is Chimping? Maybe I do, maybe I don't, but since I don't know what it is....

I was a film user for donkeys years

Michael


It is a rather strange and for some a pejorative term. Basically it means checking images on the LCD after shooting.

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Jun 11, 2017 20:58:10   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
Jim Bob wrote:
Holy crap. Thank goodness you chimped.


Jus call me a chump with a capital C.

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Jun 11, 2017 21:28:30   #
SWFeral Loc: SWNM
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Why is it considered a bad habit? What is the downside? Should one feel guilt at some level for doing it?


I find your reply amusing, I guess because it sounds like something I might ask. But I don't even know what chimping is; I've never heard the term and evidently neither has my computer because it is indicating an error. I'm sure it's some awful thing I do all the time without knowing it shows I'm an ignoramus.

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Jun 11, 2017 23:36:07   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
False question. The image for review in the camera monitor and the related information provide valuable feedback to a photographer. He can make quick adjustments to settings or to his position in relation to the subject from his review of this information.

This photog senses that the sneering at others who look at this visual feedback comes from old-line photographers who did film photography. They had to wait hours if not days for their photographs to receive development and become available before they could review the results. So they had to make a greater effort to set their camera and lens for a good exposure under the given conditions.

Apparently, these oldtimers believe photographers in the digital age should undergo a similar restraint by limiting information today as in the film era. Yet who sane and sensible rejects pertinent facts and information for improving results?

My bias here arises from my learning curve for photography involving much review of the information displayed in the camera monitor.

Further, due to computerization, the camera also records a boatload of other information for each photograph. Digital photography has given a boon to photographers who want and use the available photographic information.

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Jun 12, 2017 00:38:56   #
JuxtaposePictures Loc: San Diego
 
anotherview wrote:
False question. The image for review in the camera monitor and the related information provide valuable feedback to a photographer. He can make quick adjustments to settings or to his position in relation to the subject from his review of this information.

This photog senses that the sneering at others who look at this visual feedback comes from old-line photographers who did film photography. They had to wait hours if not days for their photographs to receive development and become available before they could review the results. So they had to make a greater effort to set their camera and lens for a good exposure under the given conditions.

Apparently, these oldtimers believe photographers in the digital age should undergo a similar restraint by limiting information today as in the film era. Yet who sane and sensible rejects pertinent facts and information for improving results?

My bias here arises from my learning curve for photography involving much review of the information displayed in the camera monitor.

Further, due to computerization, the camera also records a boatload of other information for each photograph. Digital photography has given a boon to photographers who want and use the available photographic information.
False question. The image for review in the camer... (show quote)


None of your statement makes sense. Photographers who think chimping is a bad habit aren't saying don't review your images or use the information that tools such as the histogram can provide. That isn't what chimping is. It's very simple; chimping is when you take a picture, immediately take the camera away from your eye to look at it on the back of your camera, take another picture, take it away from your eye to check it on the back of your camera again, every (or nearly every) time you take a picture. Taking a shot at the beginning of a series to check your histogram and make sure you didn't accidentally set something wrong, and then occasionally checking to make sure everything is still going well or to review some shots with a model or client isn't chimping.

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Jun 12, 2017 02:27:50   #
WILLARD98407 Loc: TACOMA, WA.
 
I like to check composition. shoot raw. bracket.

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Jun 12, 2017 02:34:41   #
WILLARD98407 Loc: TACOMA, WA.
 
Jim Bob wrote:
Agree or disagree?


to chimp or not to chimp. do you chimp because you're a chump, or are you a chump because you chimp?



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Jun 12, 2017 03:49:42   #
Graham Roberthall
 
The whole drift of this thread suggests that someone somewhere has said that to check your shot is a sign of weakness......... Who was it ? what were their qualifications ? Who put them in a position where their opinion carries so much weight ? and to cut a long list short..... Who gives a toss what he thinks ?

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Jun 12, 2017 04:03:58   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
I have not waded through every reply, but what about camera shake / shutter shock / cloud moving over sun etc - and Sod's Law?

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Jun 12, 2017 05:48:36   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I chimp, use live view and often tether. it just depends on the genre. I merely shoot the way that makes me happy. I don't care what anyone else does.

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Jun 12, 2017 07:10:39   #
Jim Bob
 
anotherview wrote:
False question. The image for review in the camera monitor and the related information provide valuable feedback to a photographer. He can make quick adjustments to settings or to his position in relation to the subject from his review of this information.

This photog senses that the sneering at others who look at this visual feedback comes from old-line photographers who did film photography. They had to wait hours if not days for their photographs to receive development and become available before they could review the results. So they had to make a greater effort to set their camera and lens for a good exposure under the given conditions.

Apparently, these oldtimers believe photographers in the digital age should undergo a similar restraint by limiting information today as in the film era. Yet who sane and sensible rejects pertinent facts and information for improving results?

My bias here arises from my learning curve for photography involving much review of the information displayed in the camera monitor.

Further, due to computerization, the camera also records a boatload of other information for each photograph. Digital photography has given a boon to photographers who want and use the available photographic information.
False question. The image for review in the camer... (show quote)


Given the number of replies I doubt many would agree with your conclusion that it is a "false question". And if it is such, what exactly does that make your reply? Hmmm. Curious readers might want to know.

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Jun 12, 2017 08:27:43   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
WILLARD98407 wrote:
to chimp or not to chimp. do you chimp because you're a chump, or are you a chump because you chimp?


Inquiring minds want to know.

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Jun 12, 2017 08:51:46   #
Jim Bob
 
DavidPine wrote:
I chimp, use live view and often tether. it just depends on the genre. I merely shoot the way that makes me happy. I don't care what anyone else does.


No doubt about your independence.

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Jun 12, 2017 11:18:01   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
Jim Bob wrote:
Agree or disagree?


Definitely agree! You have that fantastic visual information right there in your hands...what are you, some kind of fool,
not to utilize it! If your camera did not have that feature available to you...you would be slobbering and drooling over some new camera that was coming out down the pike that did have that great and wonderful new feature....
'OH BOY!! I just can't wait till that new camera comes out with that new fangled LCD display of the shooting image on it's back...!!!" "YEA!! What a really great idea!! Gotta get one soon!!"


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Jun 12, 2017 11:21:07   #
BIG ROB Loc: Princeton, NJ 08540
 
Ltgk20 wrote:
It doesn't matter to me. I have a Sony a99ii so I see everything I need in the EVF before I press the button as do all using mirrorless. However, I also shot film for 20 years where the was no chimping and with I little practice, getting a proper exposure was fairly easy.


Having the EVF in your camera...like in my Sony A6000 (which I love, madly!) ... we Chimp, RIGHT THROUGH THE
VIEWFINDER having the OLED!

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