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Jun 2, 2017 11:43:47   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Friend,

Administration officials say President Trump has decided to officially exit the UN's Paris Climate Agreement!
If this holds true, it is great news for America, the environment, and the world.
The UN's Paris Climate Agreement imposes massive economic burdens, redistributes fortunes, lines the pockets of profiteers and dictators all while having little or no impact on the temperature of the Earth. It will impoverish people and pressure the environment.
It is the most expensive all-pain, no-gain scenario imaginable.
America would be making the right move in breaking free.
At its founding, America was a developing nation. Getting enough calories and protein in your diet was not a sure thing. For many, hunting was not about sport or wildlife management, but survival. In more settled areas game became scarce.
Why is today's America canopied by trees and teeming with turkeys, deer, bear, waterfowl, you name it?
Because American economic freedom has made food so plentiful that today the problem is all about people eating too much, not too little. Nature has also rebounded so successfully that we could actually use more hunters, not less.
When the price of energy rises above what people can afford, forests disappear as people turn to firewood. When food becomes scarce and expensive, people pressure the land and animals vanish.
In Africa, habitats disappear and species become endangered when people turn to "bush meat" to put protein on their tables. Even in highly developed Germany, trees vanish when government pushes the price of energy above people's means.
In America free-market innovations such as hydraulic fracturing are defying hostile bureaucracies to keep energy affordable. It took new supplies of natural gas to reduce American CO2 emissions (if that's your thing) while expensive government solutions remain feckless.
Climate scientist Dr. Roy Spencer writes "human health and prosperity depend upon access to affordable energy. Unfortunately, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), and its 2015 Paris Climate Treaty, will hurt the human condition by making that energy much more expensive."
The warming crowd is going way over the top to paint a dire picture of what will happen if President Trump exits the UN Climate Agreement. We provided a taste of the hysteria brewing on the climate Left at CFACT.org.
Congratulations to President Trump for reportedly seeing past the hype.
As Dr. Spencer reminds us, "the truth is, we owe it to the poor to get out."

For nature and people too,

http://mailchi.mp/cfact/trump-reportedly-exiting-paris-this-means-a-cleaner-earth
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"Why is today's America canopied by trees and teeming with turkeys, deer, bear, waterfowl, you name it?"

Answer: It is canopied by trees because there is more CO2 in the atmosphere. They are teeming with turkeys, deer, bear (except polar bears who are losing their habitat) and waterfowl because of effective management by government bureaucracies.

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"Even in highly developed Germany, trees vanish when government pushes the price of energy above people's means."

Answer: The price of gasoline in Frankfurt Germany is $5.57. This is a lot higher than here in the U.S. I don't think the Germans are cutting down trees to burn in their cars.

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"It is the most expensive all-pain, no-gain scenario imaginable."

Answer: Excerpt from Bloomberg:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-03/for-cheapest-power-on-earth-look-skyward-as-coal-falls-to-solar" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-01-03/for-cheapest-power-on-earth-look-skyward-as-coal-falls-to-solar#ampshare=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-03/for-cheapest-power-on-earth-look-skyward-as-coal-falls-to-solar


Solar power is now cheaper than coal in some parts of the world. In less than a decade, it’s likely to be the lowest-cost option almost everywhere.

In 2016, countries from Chile to the United Arab Emirates broke records with deals to generate electricity from sunshine for less than 3 cents a kilowatt-hour, half the average global cost of coal power. Now, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Mexico are planning auctions and tenders for this year, aiming to drop prices even further. Taking advantage: Companies such as Italy’s Enel SpA and Dublin’s Mainstream Renewable Power, who gained experienced in Europe and now seek new markets abroad as subsidies dry up at home.

Since 2009, solar prices are down 62 percent, with every part of the supply chain trimming costs. That’s help cut risk premiums on bank loans, and pushed manufacturing capacity to record levels. By 2025, solar may be cheaper than using coal on average globally, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance.


“These are game-changing numbers, and it’s becoming normal in more and more markets," said Adnan Amin, International Renewable Energy Agency ’s director general, an Abu Dhabi-based intergovernmental group. "Every time you double capacity, you reduce the price by 20 percent.”


Better technology has been key in boosting the industry, from the use of diamond-wire saws that more efficiently cut wafers to better cells that provide more spark from the same amount of sun. It’s also driven by economies of scale and manufacturing experience since the solar boom started more than a decade ago, giving the industry an increasing edge in the competition with fossil fuels.

The average 1 megawatt-plus grounde mounted solar system will cost 73 cents a watt by 2025 compared with $1.14 now, a 36 percent drop, said Jenny Chase, head of solar analysis for New Energy Finance.

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Jun 2, 2017 11:47:14   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
Griff wrote:
Do you think it appropriate that a 'good Christian' should pray for someone to be dead? [I doubt Frank T was anticipating the second coming]


I don't think that is the right word.


Definition:

blas·phe·my
ˈblasfəmē/Submit
noun
the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.

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Jun 2, 2017 11:55:09   #
Checkmate Loc: Southern California
 
Frank Turdlicker wrote:
Thank you President Trump. In 135 short days you have taken the USA from world leader to laughing stock of the world.
As a good Christian, I am praying that you can meet Jesus and explain to him what you've done. I also prey that you meet him tomorrow morning.[/quote]

Your first line is a lie. The second line is a massive lie. Keep playing Frank Turdlicker.

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Jun 2, 2017 12:03:49   #
chrisscholbe Loc: Kansas City, MO
 
You do realize that all of the conditions of the agreement are voluntary and compliance is self administered.

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Jun 2, 2017 13:55:14   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
Frosty wrote:
I don't think that is the right word.


Definition:

blas·phe·my
ˈblasfəmē/Submit
noun
the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.


So, you think that indicating that you wish someone dead and in the presence of Jesus is not sacrilegious?
Do you think it is compatible with being a 'good Christian'.
Otherwise, what word would you prefer? Just 'wicked' perhaps?

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Jun 2, 2017 20:07:11   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
Griff wrote:
So, you think that indicating that you wish someone dead and in the presence of Jesus is not sacrilegious?
Do you think it is compatible with being a 'good Christian'.
Otherwise, what word would you prefer? Just 'wicked' perhaps?


In case you didn't notice, this is not my opinion. It was the definition of a word you seem to have used incorrectly.......nothing more.

As for what word to use instead of blasphemy, that is up to you.

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Jun 2, 2017 20:27:34   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
For all of you who are in favor of the Paris accord--What is so great about the agreement?

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Jun 2, 2017 21:05:59   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Oh good grief. Pulling out of the accord was purely performance. Everything in it is (was?) purely voluntary. We could have stayed in it and done nothing, we could pull out and still have complied with everything.

Trump did it to pander to his base. Typical Lyin' Trump: Do something that means nothing. His ignorant base will applaud him and will feed his ego.

As the crimes of his administration pile up, he will claim this a bigly victory just before Comey tears him a new asshole.

Anyone who thinks global warming is a hoax is an idiot. If you want to debate the cause, fine, but it is getting warmer.

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Jun 2, 2017 21:06:59   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
chrisscholbe wrote:
You do realize that all of the conditions of the agreement are voluntary and compliance is self administered.

So true! There is no enforcement mechanism whatsoever. That is why prominent Global Warming advocate and former Nasa spokesman James Hansen said it was a bulshit deal.

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Jun 2, 2017 21:08:47   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
CaptainC wrote:
Oh good grief. Pulling out of the accord was purely performance. Everything in it is (was?) purely voluntary. We could have stayed in it and done nothing, we could pull out and still have complied with everything.

Trump did it to pander to his base. Typical Lyin' Trump: Do something that means nothing. His ignorant base will applaud him and will feed his ego.

As the crimes of his administration pile up, he will claim this a bigly victory just before Comey tears him a new asshole.

Anyone who thinks global warming is a hoax is an idiot. If you want to debate the cause, fine, but it is getting warmer.
Oh good grief. Pulling out of the accord was purel... (show quote)

Global Warming is a hoax. There hasn't been any significant warming in 20 years.

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Jun 2, 2017 21:25:18   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Global Warming is a hoax. There hasn't been any significant warming in 20 years.


Hey, if the shoe fits.

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Jun 2, 2017 23:24:05   #
Jackel Loc: California
 
Frank T - I'll bet you're in bed with Kathy Griffin, right? Did anyone other than you and Kathy suffer brain damage in the accident?

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Jun 2, 2017 23:36:50   #
drainbamage
 
boberic wrote:
For all of you who are in favor of the Paris accord--What is so great about the agreement?


It gives China and India and other nations the power to build up their coal supplies, while binding America to stop all production of coal...therefore making it necessary that when America needs energy, they have to buy it from China and India. All the while, America is paying millions of dollars to remain in the Paris agreement and paying billions of our (American people's) taxes to do so.

OH, and if a qualified American coal miner wants a job, he will have to go to another country to get it, since his country is no longer allowed to produce it (under the Paris agreement).

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Jun 3, 2017 00:25:21   #
EyeSawYou
 
CaptainC wrote:
Oh good grief. Pulling out of the accord was purely performance. Everything in it is (was?) purely voluntary. We could have stayed in it and done nothing, we could pull out and still have complied with everything.

Trump did it to pander to his base. Typical Lyin' Trump: Do something that means nothing. His ignorant base will applaud him and will feed his ego.

As the crimes of his administration pile up, he will claim this a bigly victory just before Comey tears him a new asshole.

Anyone who thinks global warming is a hoax is an idiot. If you want to debate the cause, fine, but it is getting warmer.
Oh good grief. Pulling out of the accord was purel... (show quote)


How is President Trump lying and pandering to his base when he did exactly what he promised to do with this issue when he was campaigning? President Trump neither lied or pandered, at least not in this instance. You made the assertion "As the crimes of his administration pile up", what exactly are the crimes Trump committed you lying moron? Pushing the same Liberal BS as always I see...get over it biotch, Trump won fair and square...quit your whining and biotching you snowflake.

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Jun 3, 2017 01:14:11   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
How is President Trump lying and pandering to his base when he did exactly what he promised to do with this issue when he was campaigning? President Trump neither lied or pandered, at least not in this instance. You made the assertion "As the crimes of his administration pile up", what exactly are the crimes Trump committed you lying moron? Pushing the same Liberal BS as always I see...get over it biotch, Trump won fair and square...quit your whining and biotching you snowflake.


OK- Kushner and Flynn having contacts with the Russians and not reporting it is a CRIME. That is a fact.
Lyin' Trump has asked the FBI director to lay off the Flynn investigation and THAT is obstruction of justice.

And yes, backing out of the Pairs Accords is meaningless but panders to ignorant mouth breathers like you. You think he is a hero when in fact he has done nothing of substance. Intelligent governors and mayors can still pursue clean energy effectively giving the finger to shit-for-brains Trump.

I am not disputing Trump won. The "fair and square" part may be in doubt.

Lock him up.

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