Cdouthitt wrote:
Mirrorless rules and DSLR's drool.
Why? My D500 can operate as a DSLR AND in mirrorless mode (Direct view).
Actual numbers...units shipped in thousands
2015 2016 Change
DSLR 9709 8449 -13%
Mirrorless 3345 3159 -6%
Bridge/Fixed 22341 12582 -44%
In terms of sales of interchangeable lens cameras, mirrorless grew market share from 26% to 27%. Not statistically significant in terms of growth.
Anandnra wrote:
Percentages CAN be misleading ....say for example ...... DSLR numbers went down from 100,000 to 89,000 and Mirrorless went up from 100 to 190 ..... in the comparable period. Just saying ....
DSLR's are DTM (dead to me). Y'all can keep using your dinosaurs.
StanRP wrote:
Why? My D500 can operate as a DSLR AND in mirrorless mode (Direct view).
Just another stellar way that Nikon shows off their innovativeness...not. My old dslr from 2009 had that feature.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Cdouthitt wrote:
DSLR's are DTM (dead to me). Y'all can keep using your dinosaurs.
Yet Mirrorless camers have no 300 2.8, 400 2.8, 500 f4, 600 f4, 800 f4, or 200-400 f4. Until they do, they are DTM.
rook2c4 wrote:
I think a big reason for the notable upswing in MIL camera popularity is because they have improved to the point where they have become interesting to serious photographers.
...And to serious videographers and independent filmmakers on a budget...
...And to those HYBRID photographers combining stills, graphics, audio, and video into Internet/Intranet products...
MrBob
Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
rook2c4 wrote:
I think a big reason for the notable upswing in MIL camera popularity is because they have improved to the point where they have become interesting to serious photographers.
Yes, and that applies to phone cams also... technology filters down and also up. There are SERIOUS Nat. Geo Photogs using phone cams in certain situations. I can drive my Kia to the store when the Benz is not needed.
billnikon wrote:
Yet Mirrorless camers have no 300 2.8, 400 2.8, 500 f4, 600 f4, 800 f4, or 200-400 f4. Until they do, they are DTM.
Put Canon EF lenses on a MetaBones SpeedBooster adapter on a Micro 4/3 camera and they have all of that... and each lens gains a stop or more of real light output at the sensor.
kymarto
Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
markjay wrote:
It doesnt matter what the numerical breakdown is.
The trend is unstoppable.
There will always be people using a DSLR - just as there are still people using film.
There are also people that are obsessed with dinosaurs as well.
I recently had my Nikon D800E stolen, and decided to go for a Sony A7R2. I have had various mirrorless cameras, including Fuji and Canon, plus Sony RX 100m4, NEX 7 and a6000. The A7R2 is the first mirrorless that I think really gives good DSLRs a run for their money. I personally don't think that DSLRs are going away any time soon, but the A7R2 shows where mirrorless technology is heading. The EVF is finally decent, and with a dynamic range that is relatively useful in extreme shooting situations such as in backlight, with enough resolution, finally, to focus manually with a fair amount of confidence. I appreciate silent shooting a lot, as well as the lack of mirror bounce. And yes, instant confirmation of exposure is nice. For my vintage lenses, I do appreciate focus magnification.
The most awesome thing for me is the in-body stabilization. I had some doubts about its effectiveness, but last night I was shooting a 135mm lens at 1/4 of a second handheld with very decent results. For me this is great stuff, especially since I do a lot of my work handheld. It's definitely going to open up some new possibilities for me.
On the downside, there is some viewfinder lag which is enough to cause problems in really critical timing situations. It's not much, but it's there. Also, the whole camera feels a lot more sluggish than the DSLR. Since I'm not a sports photog I can live with that, but there is certainly something to be said for responsiveness of a good DSLR.
I do think we will be seeing more and more mirrorless cameras, and I do hope that Nikon and Canon get on the bandwagon with FF mirrorless. They will have to eventually, or Sony is going to hand them their ass on a plate.
bsprague wrote:
CIPA, the Camera & Imaging Products Association, released the shipment data for April 2017. Mirrorless camera shipments were up +90% compared to April 2016. At the same time DSLR shipments went down by 11%.
As hot as the big four (Sony, Panasonic, Olympus and Fujifilm) are, I'm not surprised. The paradigm is shifting.
I predict that those of us who can think for ourselves will choose whichever system we prefer, and not be concerned with what others are using.
Leitz wrote:
I predict that those of us who can think for ourselves will choose whichever system we prefer, and not be concerned with what others are using.
It is all about finding that personal sweet spot that makes the most sense.
billnikon wrote:
And your point is? Your statement is very misleading. Mirrorless is the new THING on the market. What that study does not take into account is USE AMONG PROFESSIONALS and the fact that some folks who have had DSLR's and bought mirrorless are going BACK to DSLR's. I shoot BIF, for me Mirrorless does not have the lenses that DSLR'S offer for BIF. That said I own two mirrorless, I use them in difficult lighting conditions because with mirrorless I can see what the final shot will look like before I shoot. I very big advantage. Same with exposure compensation, the mirrorless applies the effect and I can see what it does to the image BEFORE I shoot. But for sports, Mirrorless has a LONG way to go. The rest of the story has now been told.
And your point is? Your statement is very mislead... (
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If you have a moment or two, what do you get with a reflex that you don't get with EVF (so far as sport is concerned)?I do realise that EVFs might be slow in catching up with fast action, but I would have thought that focus - tracking was a major advantage for sports?
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