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May 11, 2017 14:20:51   #
ppage Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)
 
I found raw images are especially helpful in getting back shadow and highlight detail. Yes you do have to spend time editing. Duh. Jpegs can sometimes give a flat looking sky or dark mountains and there isn't much room to save it. The camera has done it's processing and discarded the rest. Raws give you the opportunity to really customize your image in the way that suits you. If your not into editing, forget it. If your jpgs are fine to you, forget it. I have found a much greater range of possibilities to tweak the image than I have with jpgs.

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May 11, 2017 14:23:39   #
Mountainlife
 
What I do is take most images in Jpegs. A few selected shots in RAW so if needed they could be processed to create great images. As for wild life/birds all shots in RAW because more detail
is there & only a few are worth keeping.

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May 11, 2017 14:24:50   #
bbrowner Loc: Chapel Hill, NC
 
Well... I read about 4 pages worth of answers. They were all exactly the answers that would be expected. And they are all other people's answers.

I hope you realize that the only answer is...

I'm going to try both ways. I'm going to do the best I can... both ways.

Then I am going to decide for myself which direction I should take. Then I won't have others tell me which is better and what to do. What I decide will be best... FOR ME!

Barry

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May 11, 2017 14:44:38   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
bbrowner wrote:
Well... I read about 4 pages worth of answers. They were all exactly the answers that would be expected. And they are all other people's answers.

I hope you realize that the only answer is...

I'm going to try both ways. I'm going to do the best I can... both ways.

Then I am going to decide for myself which direction I should take. Then I won't have others tell me which is better and what to do. What I decide will be best... FOR ME!

Barry


That is precisely the best way for anyone to decide. There are valid reasons to choose either or to choose both.

I shot jpeg for a couple of years, was curious about raw, so shot a week-at-the-beach in both, loaded all of em in Lightroom, and compared. I've shot almost exclusively raw ever since. How much a person likes developing their own images is a factor. For those who hate PP work, raw can be an unnecessary burden. I found that I enjoyed the PP almost as much as the picture-taking part, but everybody's different, and we all need to find what works best for us.

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May 11, 2017 14:51:13   #
pecohen Loc: Central Maine
 
I've seen some good pictures taken with a cell phone camera and I've seen (even taken) what I considered great pictures that were shot in jpeg. I don't really have a problem with either one of these approaches but neither is the approach I plan to use on a regular basis. For myself, I'll keep shooting in RAW mostly with my Sony A6000 (until I decide to upgrade to something else) only on rare occasions shooting in JPEG and even more rarely shooting with a cell-phone.

We all make our own choices but decisions are best reached after seeking information and advice so that we know the trade-offs. UHH is best used as a source of information and advice, but obviously no one has to follow that advice and no one should feel bad about heading in a different direction.

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May 11, 2017 15:18:10   #
terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii
 
Nope you have so much more information in raw than a jpg, that you can work with.
gbernier505 wrote:
I have a Samsung nx500 camera, which I have used with great results over the last year or so using jpg format. After reading so much about using the raw format, I decided to try it. After using jpg+raw and editing the results, I find that my raw edited pictures seem to be no better than my jpg pictures. Am I missing something here.

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May 11, 2017 17:32:40   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
I found that shooting RAW is a must on my older model Canons, but I can get away with JPEGS on the Sony.

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May 11, 2017 17:39:56   #
SyZyGy Loc: Temple, NH
 
I'll add a two cents here as my first action on Ugly Hedgehog. This won't apply to the Samsung - but I use a Fuji XE1 and XT1 and have not yet been tempted to buy any processing/editing software. Sometimes I goof on the white balance or exposure compensation though - so when in doubt about that I shoot my best-guess-jpeg - and raw. If I like the jpeg I chuck the raw - but THE CAMERA can produce new jpegs from the raw file! I can mess with color, film simulation, brightness etc. in the camera - even B&W and crank out great jpegs with alternative settings in a short time. No, it won't replace editing software - but it can recover a goof to my satisfaction (or delight!). So in normal circumstances I use jpeg, and in weird or critical circumstances use jpeg+raw. I'm not prejudiced against software - but the cost/learning/time curve is a significant speed-bump for this amateur.

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May 11, 2017 17:55:42   #
canon Lee
 
Jim Bob wrote:
You must understand that I really don't give a sh*t about respect on this site. I'm here to learn when I can and to share info when I can. Whether people like the manner in which I post or reply means nothing to me. I'm not seeking popularity, friends or life-long connections. It doesn't matter how many people put me on their ignore lists or take offense at my posts. Like The Rock used to say, "It doesn't matter..." If you can live with that fine, if not fine. That's just the way it is and I see no need to apologize for or seek to change it. If you shared my life experiences you might possibly understand.
You must understand that I really don't give a sh*... (show quote)

I get it. Well at least you are aware of your anti social temperment.

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May 11, 2017 18:21:33   #
Lundberg02
 
This topic is boring and repetitive. Find out what RAW is, what you can do with it, then either use it or don't.

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May 11, 2017 19:22:40   #
Jim Bob
 
canon Lee wrote:
I get it. Well at least you are aware of your anti social temperment.


Now that's a fair and accurate assessment.

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May 11, 2017 19:34:26   #
gnawbone Loc: Southern Indiana
 
minniev wrote:
.........I found that I enjoyed the PP almost as much as the picture-taking part, but everybody's different, and we all need to find what works best for us.


Your comment sort of mirrors my thoughts. I like PP, I think it is fun.

The only time I shoot jpeg is when "the family" wants me to be the photographer for birthdays, Christmas, etc and any of those situations where i get co-opted - and don't care how the pictures come out. They get what they get and I don't get to enjoy the 'party' but that is a topic for another thread/day.

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May 11, 2017 20:06:16   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
canon Lee wrote:
Hi. You are correct that shooting rapid motion like sports, is shot in JPEG for faster recycling & tracking. Someone like you that is working in sports photography would know more than those that don't What is your opinon of the Canon 7DII?


Both the guys I work with use them as backups so they are very good.

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May 11, 2017 20:59:15   #
rvhowdy
 
Thank you for your comments, Blackripley. I am an accompilished photographer, as I have managed to be ranked in the top 10-20% in several photography sites, Gurushots, Viewbug, etc. I have sold large pieces of my work to hotels, etc. But, I do not considerer myself a top photographer because I do not have a great grasp of post editing expertise. I know to up my game, I need to learn better post processing. I am learning Lightroom and photoshop. I am amazed how it is improving my photography.
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
I'm sorry Jim, what does your response even mean? Are you saying that some reasonable people believe my "obviously biased assumptions"? Then that would by definition, make them unreasonable by your reasoning. Bias? Hardly. Reality borne out of experience.
I can take the original raws I shot 8 years ago and rework them with today's post processing software and salvage detail and produce an killer image that wasn't possible when I took it. If I just took it as a jpeg, that door is closed to me. It would still be crap today as it was back then.
If you insist that jpeg's are the only way to go, I don't agree but just go ahead and knock yourself out. Different strokes and all. But I hardly think it is an issue to thank a Deity over. The stench of group-think here is getting a little stifling.
I'm sorry Jim, what does your response even mean? ... (show quote)

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May 11, 2017 21:25:53   #
BebuLamar
 
I think I am going to shoot JPEG. I will buy Fuji Provia 100 and shoot them slides and project them on my projector.

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