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May 2, 2017 01:04:49   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
Seems iphone users are happy; android, or many android users are not. I think if they have a Samsung, they are happy? ???


It's not Android itself that's the problem, The issues come in when the individual manufacturers (Samsung,HTC,LG, Alcatel...) "skin" the OS and replace the stock apps with their own versions. Sometimes it's a better version, Sometimes it's worse. My Ellipsis 8 tablet, for example is fairly "stock" Android and exibits fewer quirks than my HTC 10 for example, But the HTC is easier to customize right out of the box. That's the beauty (curse?) of Android, There's no "one" Android!

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May 2, 2017 02:06:20   #
whitewolfowner
 
James Slick wrote:
It's not Android itself that's the problem, The issues come in when the individual manufacturers (Samsung,HTC,LG, Alcatel...) "skin" the OS and replace the stock apps with their own versions. Sometimes it's a better version, Sometimes it's worse. My Ellipsis 8 tablet, for example is fairly "stock" Android and exibits fewer quirks than my HTC 10 for example, But the HTC is easier to customize right out of the box. That's the beauty (curse?) of Android, There's no "one" Android!
It's not Android itself that's the problem, The is... (show quote)




I can relate to the forced apps that you can't remove. By the time they take up the memory for their abusive business practice, there is no memory left todo much of anything with then. Then you have T-mobile add their junk and the system is crippled.

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May 4, 2017 02:38:10   #
tamalero Loc: Mexico
 
James Slick wrote:
It's not Android itself that's the problem, The issues come in when the individual manufacturers (Samsung,HTC,LG, Alcatel...) "skin" the OS and replace the stock apps with their own versions. Sometimes it's a better version, Sometimes it's worse. My Ellipsis 8 tablet, for example is fairly "stock" Android and exibits fewer quirks than my HTC 10 for example, But the HTC is easier to customize right out of the box. That's the beauty (curse?) of Android, There's no "one" Android!
It's not Android itself that's the problem, The is... (show quote)

Dont forget how some service providers also force some of their apps

Like Verizon and their exclusive sports apps and comm talks.
I remember I had to install a generic clean firmware to wipe the locks. I couldnt even install ESPN in my note4 for example. The device outright blocked it.

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May 4, 2017 02:59:55   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
tamalero wrote:
Dont forget how some service providers also force some of their apps

Like Verizon and their exclusive sports apps and comm talks.
I remember I had to install a generic clean firmware to wipe the locks. I couldnt even install ESPN in my note4 for example. The device outright blocked it.



Oh, yes the provider installed apps👍! and Verizon IS pretty bad with the bloatware! 😛

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May 4, 2017 03:01:32   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
I can relate to the forced apps that you can't remove. By the time they take up the memory for their abusive business practice, there is no memory left todo much of anything with then. Then you have T-mobile add their junk and the system is crippled.



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May 4, 2017 07:53:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
James Slick wrote:
Oh, yes the provider installed apps👍! and Verizon IS pretty bad with the bloatware! 😛


I hate not being able to delete apps. I never use them, but I can't delete them.

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May 4, 2017 08:03:41   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
For anyone who might care: target.lroc.asu.edu/q3/is back in operation. 2 meters/pixel resolution still looks good.

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May 4, 2017 08:06:43   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Streets wrote:
For anyone who might care: target.lroc.asu.edu/q3 is back in operation. 2 meters/pixel resolution still looks good.


Amazing detail, but where is the spot in question?

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May 4, 2017 08:22:19   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Amazing detail, but where is the spot in question?


I did not get the lat/longs for the shot on this thread but here are the lat/longs for another similar sized crater with something strange in it.


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May 4, 2017 08:35:45   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Streets wrote:
I did not get the lat/longs for the shot on this thread but here are the lat/longs for another similar sized crater with something strange in it.


Thanks

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May 4, 2017 09:21:08   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
Streets wrote:
I did not get the lat/longs for the shot on this thread but here are the lat/longs for another similar sized crater with something strange in it.

That last one is pretty decipherable. It is clear that there are craters in craters in that one.
As for the first one, it is most likely to be merely a couple boulders that got stuck in a crater, possibly having dropped in after a meteor impact. It is weird, but not that weird, and that sort of thing should happen on occasion, given the number of impacts recorded on the moon and the clear dispersal of boulders and rocks ejected from those impacts. Just ask yourself: What would a few boulders in a crater look like? What would it look like in a slightly blurry, high contrast picture? I hope you can agree it would look like that first picture.

There is a famous moon picture from many decades ago of a house-sized boulder that had rolled down a slope, leaving spaced tracks as it went wobbling down the hill. That is still getting UFO enthusiasts all abuzz, because they see this surprising pattern and jump to conclusions. But 'ya know, although it is kind of cool it looks exactly like what a boulder down a hill would look like. I am sure you can find it and other examples like it with a quick search online.

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May 4, 2017 09:49:46   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
That last one is pretty decipherable. It is clear that there are craters in craters in that one.
As for the first one, it is most likely to be merely a couple boulders that got stuck in a crater, possibly having dropped in after a meteor impact. It is weird, but not that weird, and that sort of thing should happen on occasion, given the number of impacts recorded on the moon and the clear dispersal of boulders and rocks ejected from those impacts. Just ask yourself: What would a few boulders in a crater look like? What would it look like in a slightly blurry, high contrast picture? I hope you can agree it would look like that first picture.

There is a famous moon picture from many decades ago of a house-sized boulder that had rolled down a slope, leaving spaced tracks as it went wobbling down the hill. That is still getting UFO enthusiasts all abuzz, because they see this surprising pattern and jump to conclusions. But 'ya know, although it is kind of cool it looks exactly like what a boulder down a hill would look like. I am sure you can find it and other examples like it with a quick search online.
That last one is pretty decipherable. It is clear ... (show quote)


This is the crater that is at the lat/longs that are given. It is a tedious effort to get to the the exact spot on the LROS site but this is the picture that you will get. Notice the disturbance in the crater wall from 9 o'clock to 11 o'clock.



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May 5, 2017 23:44:35   #
Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI
 
ok. When meteors hit, they kick up large and small rocks. I don't think that point needs to be defended. We see lots of craters with rays of debris strewn out from them. Some of these are very extensive, and can be clearly seen with a small telescope. Anyway, there are so many craters on the moon that any crater is pretty close to several other craters, as is clearly seen in this picture. It stands to reason that sometimes rocks that are kicked up by an impact will land in the bottom of another crater. Sometimes these events will result in large rocks that plow into the walls of a crater a bit.
Does all this not seem pretty normal? It would be weird if it did not happen. And what would that look like?
The alternative is what? You wondered earlier about possible secret installations on the moon. So that would take a very large budget and lots of people. Consider the latter point for a moment: lots of people on earth (and on the moon?) involved in a prolonged and secret operation on the moon. What would be the point? And no one talks? Ever?

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May 6, 2017 09:41:43   #
Streets Loc: Euless, TX.
 
Mark Sturtevant wrote:
ok. When meteors hit, they kick up large and small rocks. I don't think that point needs to be defended. We see lots of craters with rays of debris strewn out from them. Some of these are very extensive, and can be clearly seen with a small telescope. Anyway, there are so many craters on the moon that any crater is pretty close to several other craters, as is clearly seen in this picture. It stands to reason that sometimes rocks that are kicked up by an impact will land in the bottom of another crater. Sometimes these events will result in large rocks that plow into the walls of a crater a bit.
Does all this not seem pretty normal? It would be weird if it did not happen. And what would that look like?
The alternative is what? You wondered earlier about possible secret installations on the moon. So that would take a very large budget and lots of people. Consider the latter point for a moment: lots of people on earth (and on the moon?) involved in a prolonged and secret operation on the moon. What would be the point? And no one talks? Ever?
ok. When meteors hit, they kick up large and small... (show quote)


Mark, if you are directing your reply to me, the O.P. of this thread, you are totally wrong when you said that I mentioned secret bases. I simply presented what I found to be puzzling. Most of the replies to this thread have been swathed in ridicule. I do not know what the anomalies on the Moon are; period. I am of the opinion that our current civilization is the last of the many that have risen and disappeared in the past. There are enough puzzles on Earth to keep the curious busy for a lifetime. Google the images of Sacsaywaman, and tell me whether it is a puzzle that will ever be solved. The Osirion in Egypt is another one that will challenge a solution. You also wasted your time in explaining your version of Lunar geology to me. I spent two years working along side of JPL on the Surveyor Moon Lander program and another two years on the Apollo program at NASA's Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston(actually Clearlake TX.). Do not fail to visit this excellent web site: target.lroc.asu.edu/q3/

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