Gray Market (Page 6): For Canon I was told that the "grey" market cameras were made in Malaysia. But no one could tell me why Canon doesn't warranty them, but will fix them. I think...

sazfoto

For Canon I was told that the "grey" market cameras were made in Malaysia. But no one could tell me why Canon doesn't warranty them, but will fix them. I think that if you are going to put your name on them you should stand by your product.

roadchuck

I bought a grey mkt (new) ... D750 over a year ago for around 1500. No problems at all so far.. I'd do it again.. As a matter of fact I just did it again - bought a new Tokina 100 f 2.8 macro and it seems to work great so far.. The shipping (free!) from Hong Kong took 2 days- blew my mind.. Buy the ticket and take the ride as Dr Thompson once said.. Good luck to all..

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

sazfoto wrote:

For Canon I was told that the "grey" market cameras were made in Malaysia. But no one could tell me why Canon doesn't warranty them, but will fix them. I think that if you are going to put your name on them you should stand by your product.

Grey market cameras in the US are merely cameras that were purchased outside the Canon USA dealer network. That's it. Otherwise they are identical. And, very often Canon USA will fix grey market equipment under warranty, they're just not required to do it..

MLAnderson

Is he the guy that took all that LSD?

Silke Loc: Germany

My take on this...
I have lived in the UK for 25 years. We bought the camera in the UK.
I now live in Germany and obviously brought the camera with me.
So, as I am now in a different country, theoretically my camera would be "Gray Market", as it was bought in another country. If it needs repair here, my warranty (if I still had warranty on the camera) would not be valid here.
That is absolute nonsense.
The whole "only valid in X country" is diabolical. It's the same camera / computer / printer / sewing machine / *insert item of choice* -- as sold in *this* country. It should not matter which country you're in, or where you bought it. As long as it is not a fake, it should have a warranty regardless of which country you are in.
Cameras, especially, are items we travel with. In a sense, that's what they are made for. To go out and photograph the WORLD. Not just your back yard, or in a studio, but to travel the world and bring back memories.
So if my camera breaks in the US, while I'm on a 3 month trip, why should I be penalized for doing what a camera is made for?
It won't change, but seriously, the whole warranty thing needs an overhaul.

RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas

tinplater wrote:

I figure over the past two decades I have saved several thousands of dollars without a single issue that would have been resolved with a white market version. So, if in the future, I have to repair a gray market item, it really doesn't hurt that much considering the savings.

This is very true, the savings is mostly greater g/m items which is better and the money save for other things like len's. I can honestly say I have never had any problems with any g/m len's or camera, these things are made in Japan the quality is the same as the products sold with U.S. Warranty's. I can except why the folks here on this site buy U.S. cameras and len's that's OK too,

RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas

sazfoto wrote:

For Canon I was told that the "grey" market cameras were made in Malaysia. But no one could tell me why Canon doesn't warranty them, but will fix them. I think that if you are going to put your name on them you should stand by your product.

Exactly!!!!

Mary Kate Loc: NYC

DaveO wrote:

I had to check to see if admin moved this thread to the Attic!

Don't you mean the sewer? If you about photography and all things related. Why would you want a section like that? How does that enhance your main product?

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Mary Kate wrote:

Don't you mean the sewer? If you about photography and all things related. Why would you want a section like that? How does that enhance your main product?

My,you are the clever one,as I can see from your responses. Due to the tenor of the thread, I made what the rest of the forum more than likely interpreted, a little humor in that Admin will sometimes move contentious threads to the Attic. Your keyboad has made it difficult to get the full meaning of your post,but your prior contributions gave me a fairly good idea.

Mary Kate Loc: NYC

Jim Bob wrote:

Yeah it was dumb. But that's what the "superior" race did. Blame them.

Yeah. I guess you are right. How lame it is to want some to read so they can understand the question and make a choice. That damn" superior race"!!!

insman1132 Loc: Southwest Florida

Ha Ha, leftj. For the same reason I don't use 23%, of course.

lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle

markjay wrote:

Sorry to hear that about John Deere. I thought better of them.
If the same parts have different numbers, they have management control problems.
What more to say - unless they too play the camera company game and they are trying to charge more for parts in the UK than they are charging in Nigeria.

Trying to figure out this "reply" "quote reply" thing.
National markets for cameras. I live in the US, I bought a Canon camera in the US. The manual is in English. The buttons and dials are in English. But if I travel to the British Isles, I know I have to buy a converter to charge the batteries. Not s big deal. If I go to India and buy a camera there, will I be able to read the bottoms?
Same with John Deere. A machine made for the US is equiped to run Diesel Exhaust Fluid. A machine built for South America just has an exhaust stack. Plus other differences. A machine intended for South America ends up in US. Gray market, not in the intended market. Innocent unknowing contractor thinks he got a good deal. Takes the machine to state or federal job site. Is informed that machine does not confirm to safety and pollution laws. Contractor buys shield for hydraulic cylinder but finds no brackets to bolt it to. Buys all the DEF system, it won't bolt up either. If he does get it attached, it may not run because the computer was not programmed for the changes.
Now that really good deal has cost him a lot more.
Now far as looking up the parts just to fix the broken GM machine, that depends on if the parts man is smart enough and willing to reload the parts listing for the correct machine, then reload the US version. And it's my understanding that the method of up dating has changed since I retired.
In a way, the cameras are less complicated in Gray Market dealings.

lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle

After reading through this thread on gray market cameras, I am beginning to understand why some people buy g/m. I also understand why some don't and some pick and choose. My instruction manual are neatly put away. I have learned more from DK Books. I know every Canon in the world was made in Japan, but can I read it, and can I plug it in? These two issues are important to me but we're not addressed.

Jim Bob

tramsey wrote:

That is the only thing you have in common with Elvis. You don't have the looks, temperament, vocabulary, or anything else he has displayed so just, for a change, do something intelligent and keep your mouth shut, and give your brain a chance to work out the cobwebs.

God I'm glad I have nothing in common with Elvis including his racism. When you own the site you can control what I say. Until the kiss my...

Jim Bob

joer wrote:

There are many "Alternative Facts" about "Gray Market"on this forum. In fact there is no difference other than the available warrantee and repair processes.

It is a marketing scheme to control prices. The camera manufactures/distributors knowing allow their big dealers to buy all the "Gray Market" they want.

Truer words were never spoken.