Gray market; marketing Nikon/Canon
Jun 30, 2016 12:23:14 #
Mogul wrote:
I worked on a dictating/transcribing machine once, needed a small capacitor. I bought one at a local parts house. When I put it in and tested it, it smoked and blew the top of a gain balancing transistor. When I contacted the factory, they apologized and said the original capacitors (and schematics) were printed incorrectly. We later found out that they did this to this model to prevent using after-market parts. We soon went to another manufacturer.
I brought an AR amplifier to a local repair guy. He found the problem, but it was a proprietary part, and the company no longer stocked it.
Jun 30, 2016 13:52:45 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Agreed! Besides cars made to be sold in different countries are different as the law in each country is different. Even cars sold in CA is different from those that are sold in other states.
Not completely true anymore. I bought a new Nissan Sentra in Missouri knowing it was going to be relocated to Califorina in a few months. It was 50 state certified and there was zero issues getting it licensed and titled in Califorina. Of course other than the huge $$$$$ cost.
Jun 30, 2016 15:35:40 #
yds0066 wrote:
Not completely true anymore. I bought a new Nissan Sentra in Missouri knowing it was going to be relocated to Califorina in a few months. It was 50 state certified and there was zero issues getting it licensed and titled in Califorina. Of course other than the huge $$$$$ cost.
I flew from NY to San Francisco to buy a Honda Civic in 1980 because nothing was available here after being on waiting lists for four months. I hesitated because it was a CA car, but we kept it for seventeen years and put about 150k miles on it. Fortunately, registering a car in NY is relatively cheap because it is based on weight, rather than on value. I bought and registered a motorcycle in NH, and I had to pay property tax on it every year to register it for the first few years.
Not all car are certified for use in CA. See the link below.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_content_en/dmv/pubs/brochures/fast_facts/ffvr29
Jun 30, 2016 16:06:43 #
You are aware that reference is from 2011?
Most manufacturers have go to 50 state emissions due to easier manufacturing and cross dealer transfers. The Nissan dealer that we used in St Louis said that every new Nissan he had on his lot was 50 state certified including his $108,000 GTR
Most manufacturers have go to 50 state emissions due to easier manufacturing and cross dealer transfers. The Nissan dealer that we used in St Louis said that every new Nissan he had on his lot was 50 state certified including his $108,000 GTR
Jun 30, 2016 18:43:21 #
well Now Nikon does repair a few grey market cameras in the USA https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi6j7KM6dDNAhVTzWMKHdaPDQcQFggsMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpetapixel.com%2F2016%2F05%2F20%2Fnikon-now-allows-grey-market-camera-repairs-us%2F&usg=AFQjCNHvTux1E4NMsBZooY_RBcYN2lgRGw&sig2=xX-0JINeT5qULu2eZLiIug
duck72 wrote:
http://nikonrumors.com/2016/05/16/great-news-you-can-now-repair-some-nikon-grey-market-cameras-at-third-party-us-repair-facilities.aspx/No tears for manufacturers that purport a "bought in USA from an authorized dealer" product is different from a camera (D7200) bought for less$ Multinational companies need to get their stuff together. Buy a BMW stateside for ridiculous $ - or grab one as a cab ex-U.S. Yeah, we've all heard the "Gee- grey-market cameras are eating our flesh" routine. Volkswagen concurs.
Jun 30, 2016 18:56:52 #
depends which camera at the moment Nikon has taken the first steps to fix this problem http://nikonrumors.com/2016/05/16/great-news-you-can-now-repair-some-nikon-grey-market-cameras-at-third-party-us-repair-facilities.aspx/ and I would bet and I am a betting man, that Nikon will set this right within the next year.
tenor57 wrote:
What happens to a person who lived outside of the USA, bought a Nikon while residing outside US and then either visits or moves to US. Can he get his camera repaired at Nikon USA ?
Jun 30, 2016 18:57:43 #
not tottally true my friend http://nikonrumors.com/2016/05/16/great-news-you-can-now-repair-some-nikon-grey-market-cameras-at-third-party-us-repair-facilities.aspx/
billnikon wrote:
OK, follow along closely to the discussion. If it is not a USA Nikon product, then, no service in USA. Are you still with me, GOOD. So, if our guy bought Nikon outside the USA, he now owns a outside USA Nikon. And, as we have posted over a 1000 times, if it is not a USA Nikon, then, no service from NIKON USA. Is their something about this thread that is difficult to understand, did I spell it out OK or can someone else explain it better. Cause, it seems to me MANY do not still understand.
Jun 30, 2016 19:00:47 #
because they are bought in the UK then not grey market you will get this problem only if wanting to repair in the USA, Nikon seems to be working on this though, lets hope the grey market designation goes away except for copied or pirated cameras
mikeysaling wrote:
I suppose now all uk Nikon users are using GREY as the warranty is for 'europe' - hey ho who cares anyway. Plenty of shops in uk can repair Nikons AND obtain spares . You all worry too much methinks.
Jun 30, 2016 19:05:30 #
very interesting link thank you for the information
h2odog wrote:
One difference that you may find with grey market ... (show quote)
Jun 30, 2016 19:33:18 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
dcampbell52 wrote:
...(I've heard Canon is beginning to strengthen their support of "authorized dealers") are restricting parts to "authorized" repair locations. Unauthorized repair centers are purchasing used cameras and using other means to get parts to complete repairs)....
You heard wrong.
It's NIKON who is doing that (not Canon).... and it's been NIKON's policy since mid 2012. I got the memo from them a few months before that. More info.... http://petapixel.com/2012/02/20/nikon-to-stop-making-parts-available-to-unauthorized-camera-repair-shops/.
Purportedly NIKON did this to "insure quality repairs", but it really comes down to creating a near-monopoly situation where the customer has no choice but to use a very limited number of service centers, endure longer wait times for repairs due to the backup, and is forced to pay whatever price they choose to set for the parts and service. Nikon still sells some simple, common items direct (such as battery compartment covers, replacement grip rubber, etc.) But they have limited the sale of most parts to only their own small, authorized network.
In complete contrast, Canon will sell and ship spare parts to anyone with a telephone, credit card and part number. So, as long as the parts are available, with Canon gear you can choose your own repairer... if you know a good, local independent tech.
Regarding gray market items....
Most manufacturers (Canon and Nikon included) WILL repair a gray market item, if asked. However, they are not obliged to honor any warranty that might remain on it. So even if it's still in warranty, you might be charged for the repair. Sometimes repairs are rejected for other reasons, such as water damage that's impossible to repair or other damage that would cost more to repair than to buy a replacement outright.
Apr 28, 2017 10:42:03 #
Nikon with its' money woes may take a different look at gray market or maybe even lower USA prices. Survival always comes first.
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