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Apr 17, 2017 21:22:09   #
barryg
 
Of course you can increase the odds of getting a good shot by taking many, but to me the joy of photography is in the creation of the photo as much as in the final image. There is more satisfaction in getting it right with one exposure than in playing the odds. If I were a professional, the only thing that would matter is the result and I would take as many exposures as practical.

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Apr 17, 2017 21:56:57   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
KSmith wrote:
My wife is Queen of the blink. I could understand if I used flash a lot, but I don't unless I absolutely have to. Still, I have to take three shots to get to get one with her eyes open.


I have one of those too. I tell her that she should close her eyes, and open them when I count to three. :) I have saved lots of shutter actuations with this approach.

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Apr 17, 2017 22:16:09   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
ky4lc wrote:
I used to do weddings and sports pictures. I got burned out on weddings and moved on from sports pictures. I tried to compose my shots carefully and make the best of film and processing on a limited budget. In fact the limited budget was the reason I quit photography all together several years ago, sold all my cameras, darkroom stuff...everything. About 5 years ago my son came in with an Olympus DSLR. I told my wife If I bought another camera, that is what I would buy.... no film processing, and if you don't want to print a picture you have virtually NO costs... Except for equipment. I now shoot hundreds of shots where I would have shot 10 or 20 shots years ago. Everybody is doing it. Watch an NBA game, you will see a large number of cameras sitting on the side of the court, operated by remote, and focused somewhere on the court on the chance that they will get a shot or two that will be worth keeping. And if you really want to see photographic overkill...watch the Olympics. I read that Canon and Nikon supply the photographers with cameras and large lenses just to get their cameras on camera for the advertisement. Gone are the days where a photographer would anticipate a shot and wait to get it. Now the photographer will put the camera on burst and shoot 30 shots and HOPE he gets something. and if he doesn't, well the players will be back down court in about 15 seconds and you can shoot 30 more!! Landscape photography is better but I think that quantity is taking the place of quality. Ansel Adams might take 3 or 4 pictures a DAY, that is IF the light was right, and if it wasn't....he would wait until tomorrow. Now you take a bunch of shots, and if the light isn't right, that's OK, you can always use PhotoShop to fix it. It doesn't matter how good a photographer you are, it matters how good you are at manipulating the image in a program like PhotoShop.
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Ky4 - I find the whole thread topic weird to begin with, after all who is anyone to judge another person with their camera that THEY paid for. It is 2017 and most people shoot digital. People need to get with the program. If someone wants to shoot just a few shots, the more power to him or her.

But what I wanted to point out to you is that a shitty picture can not be saved by photoshop no matter how skilled the editor is. A snap is a snap.

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Apr 17, 2017 22:19:51   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
I'm not a pro but my keeper rate tends to be around 10%. Haven't done film for 20 years now, but I think the keeper rate back then was lower.


I will probably keep 98% of my shiots. Cause I'm to lazy to go though them and get rid of the bad ones. Haha

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Apr 17, 2017 22:31:22   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
When I shot medium format weddings I believe I gave about 150 proofs in one or two proof books. There was the rehearsal, rehearsal dinner, wedding, reception, outdoor pictures of the bridal party, etc. I think I took 4 pro packs of 120 film to every wedding.

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Apr 17, 2017 22:56:20   #
tinwhistle
 
I live a half day drive from an Air Force live fire range. Occasionally they will open the range to the public. Those days are a bonanza to the photographer interested in the likes of the F-16 doing what it does best. Today's digital equipment was meant for a days shooting of a days shooting! 'nuf said...

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Apr 17, 2017 23:34:37   #
whitewolfowner
 
jcradford wrote:
Quick thought ... Different strokes rule. I've been thru it all since the 50's and overshoot hockey games, but probably undershoot scenics with 4x5. The other consideration is to take a moment ... As Yogi used to say, "you can observe allot just by watching." Whether is portrait, wildlufe, scenic or sports, I think there's merit in study, visualizing ... And then whatever it takes to backup the keepers. I suppose the ultimate coverage is rolling 4K video and frame grabbing. Whatever sells. Oh, Muybridge already did that.
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That is exactly right. The more you know (in sports anyways, and I'm it applies everywhere) the game, the better shots you will get and the less photos you will have to take. Nothing beats knowing a sport well enough that you can tell what is coming and be prepared to capture it. As I have seen many do, they keep grinding away those fast DSLR's for no reason when nothing is even going on. Then they give up just as the action starts and miss everything. Knowledge is power for sure.

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Apr 18, 2017 00:54:11   #
pmackd Loc: Alameda CA
 
Way back in my film days (1991) I met my then 19 year old daughter for the first time (long story, but not for here). Meeting her at the airport I thought "holy mackerel she looks like a movie star! I have to get a good picture of her." I shot six rolls of film, got 200 mediocre shots and one great one. It's on my wall to this day.

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Apr 18, 2017 04:05:33   #
Ernie Misner Loc: Lakewood, WA
 
For those of us who have OCD it is just one heck of a lot of fun to be out there shooting and experimenting with new techniques or equipment. Also it can take many thousands of images to refine your vision and define your own style that will be recognizable. Of course there times with the light is changing fast or the rain storm is nearly upon us, when we have to make every shot count or else. But in the end I feel so blessed to be able to shoot a couple hundred shots or more in an afternoon if necessary, and not have to purchase or pay for all that film developing. There has never been a better time to be into photography.

Check my flickr page and you will see many images that took more takes to refine than I could have done with film.

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Apr 18, 2017 04:44:56   #
bluechris Loc: Grapeview, WA
 
Why so many shots? These bee photos were taken many years ago with a point and shoot camera. My first digital camera was an Olympus 3.2 MP that I bought on Ebay for $75.00 in 2005. It had a killer sensor for its size and took great photos. Subsequent years I too a lot of bee photos with the macro setting on Point and shoots. I got good at it but this how the photo sessions went. For every 100 photos I took of the bees 20 were good enough to keep. Out of the 20, 10 were really good and nice and between 3 and 5 were fantastic. For many reasons I took so many but the main reason is that bees like to fly away or move around the flower. I took thousands of photos of the bees and deleted a lot of photos that did not make the cut. My flickr page shows the best of the bee photos I took.









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Apr 18, 2017 07:10:59   #
JCam Loc: MD Eastern Shore
 
My only concern on this subject is "Why is anyone at all concerned about other photographers using the burst function when they take photos?".. It only affects the "taker" and his/her time spent reviewing and culling.

We've had automatic shooting for years; it was just called something different, and it's a great feature to have when the subject(s) keeps moving. When shooting some action shots, perhaps young kids playing or hydroplane races, etc. I can almost guarantee the best shot won't be gained in single shot mode. It may be good, but seconds later (or before) there probably were slightly different pictures forever lost with the one shot mode.

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Apr 18, 2017 07:38:23   #
ThreeCee Loc: Washington, DC
 
I am in full agreement you. Especially if you shoot sports and wildlife. I set the camera to get a great shot every time. Now I need the subject to cooperate. With birds I want the wings in certain positions. With sports I anticipate but having the right instant is very important. The new technology makes it possible to do things impossible with the old. Change is good and getting stuck can limit you in ways you won't know unless you change.

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Apr 18, 2017 08:31:46   #
sploppert Loc: Rochester, NY
 
Give a man a fully automatic gun with a full clip and let him fire as fast as he can. He hits the bulls eye once. Does this make him a marksman? Give a fully automatic camera with a burst mode to a monkey and when the card is full chances are there will be one or two good shots. Does that make the monkey a photographer? Of course not the monkey knows nothing about what he has done. Photography is an art and takes a long time if ever to master your art. All this reminds me of living in Rochester NY when Kodak was here. Everyone who worked there that had a camera called himself a photographer just because he worked at the big yellow box. There is more to photography than how fast you can shoot.

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Apr 18, 2017 08:42:01   #
whitewolfowner
 
sploppert wrote:
Give a man a fully automatic gun with a full clip and let him fire as fast as he can. He hits the bulls eye once. Does this make him a marksman? Give a fully automatic camera with a burst mode to a monkey and when the card is full chances are there will be one or two good shots. Does that make the monkey a photographer? Of course not the monkey knows nothing about what he has done. Photography is an art and takes a long time if ever to master your art. All this reminds me of living in Rochester NY when Kodak was here. Everyone who worked there that had a camera called himself a photographer just because he worked at the big yellow box. There is more to photography than how fast you can shoot.
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Well said.

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Apr 18, 2017 09:26:56   #
sploppert Loc: Rochester, NY
 
get it right the first time and save your batteries for when you really need them.

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