Nikon D7200
Apr 13, 2017 12:06:38 #
dennis2146 wrote:
I am guessing you are taking me to task. Did you happen to read the suggestion from IBM above? If not might I suggest you take a look at that post.
Dennis
Dennis
It would be great to find a reasonable refurb D7200 for $600.00. Don't know about lens prices, as they can vary a lot.
Apr 13, 2017 12:18:49 #
Not taking you to task at all. Yes read it. I'm a pro video integrater and sell four or five million a year. Mostly Sony and mostly to churches. Sell b-stock or refurb all the time.
I'm sure he will make the correct decision.
I'm sure he will make the correct decision.
Apr 13, 2017 12:49:47 #
Apr 13, 2017 13:08:22 #
Rich -
Before you make a decision, go to Ken Rockwell Nikon reviews (http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/). He covers every possible Nikon product from every possible angle and will help you make a decision. My best friend bought the D7200 and I bought the D5500. After comparing hardware and photo results, I'm more glad than ever I opted for the D5500. Ken Rockwell has the same opinion. Both he and I (and a lot of UHHers) agree it's better to save a little money on the camera body and spend a little more on good lenses.
Be careful with the bundles from Amazon, COSTCO, etc. They have a lot of cheap lens extenders, filters and junk you'll never need. Also - If you get the 18 - 55mm and 55 - 300mm lenses, you'll find yourself constantly changing lenses. Better to buy the body and either the 18 - 200mm or 18 - 300 mm lens. Either one will stay on your camera 99% of the time, even if you have other lenses.
Before you make a decision, go to Ken Rockwell Nikon reviews (http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/). He covers every possible Nikon product from every possible angle and will help you make a decision. My best friend bought the D7200 and I bought the D5500. After comparing hardware and photo results, I'm more glad than ever I opted for the D5500. Ken Rockwell has the same opinion. Both he and I (and a lot of UHHers) agree it's better to save a little money on the camera body and spend a little more on good lenses.
Be careful with the bundles from Amazon, COSTCO, etc. They have a lot of cheap lens extenders, filters and junk you'll never need. Also - If you get the 18 - 55mm and 55 - 300mm lenses, you'll find yourself constantly changing lenses. Better to buy the body and either the 18 - 200mm or 18 - 300 mm lens. Either one will stay on your camera 99% of the time, even if you have other lenses.
Apr 13, 2017 13:18:38 #
(1) Costco does not sell grey market cameras.
(2) The 55-300 in their D7200 kit is vastly inferior in sharpness at 300mm to the new AF-P 70-300 DX. The best walkaround lens for the D7200 is the 18-140 (unless you want to settle for the blurry long end and other disadvantages of a super wide range zoom like any 18-300 or 16-300). I would get a refurb D7200, a refurb or used 18-140 and a new gray market AF-P 70-300 DX, the latter of which can be had on Ebay or from Walmart for under $200. Total: less than $1200.) If money isn't tight you can buy the body and each lens new. You will then have a far better package than the Costco kit.
(2) The 55-300 in their D7200 kit is vastly inferior in sharpness at 300mm to the new AF-P 70-300 DX. The best walkaround lens for the D7200 is the 18-140 (unless you want to settle for the blurry long end and other disadvantages of a super wide range zoom like any 18-300 or 16-300). I would get a refurb D7200, a refurb or used 18-140 and a new gray market AF-P 70-300 DX, the latter of which can be had on Ebay or from Walmart for under $200. Total: less than $1200.) If money isn't tight you can buy the body and each lens new. You will then have a far better package than the Costco kit.
Apr 13, 2017 13:43:25 #
Rich - you're new here and we don't have a whole lot to go on apart from thoughts on a CostCo bundle.
If you're fairly new to photography then don't buy more than you initially want or need. Read through people's comments about "camera bundles" and you'll find endless advice along the lines of "just buy the camera body" and "take your time to learn about and choose YOUR lenses". I'm certainly in that camp.
In your initial post you write "as a hobby, I mostly take pictures of people, (Portraits) Functions, and some outside nature photography". My thought process asks "then why do you need a telephoto lens that'll take you out to 300mm?
If you read my earlier post giving you a "Nikon Guru's" review about the quality and suitability of the D7200, and from what many have said in differing posts in this thread, I'd be leaning towards a refurbished D7200.
For a lens that'll give you excellent image quality, and I bet might be all you need (given your usage) may I suggest the Nikon 16-80 f2.8-4. It's a relatively new DX lens (launched for Nikon DX cameras in July 2015) giving you full frame equivalence of 27 to 120mm. I'll bet you could take most of the pics you (initially) want with that combo and, once you get the hang of using them, a lot of satisfaction too.
Best to have good options BEFORE you decide !!
http://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/nikon-lens-reviews/nikkor-zoom-lens-reviews/nikon-16-80mm-f28-4e-vr-dx.html
If you're fairly new to photography then don't buy more than you initially want or need. Read through people's comments about "camera bundles" and you'll find endless advice along the lines of "just buy the camera body" and "take your time to learn about and choose YOUR lenses". I'm certainly in that camp.
In your initial post you write "as a hobby, I mostly take pictures of people, (Portraits) Functions, and some outside nature photography". My thought process asks "then why do you need a telephoto lens that'll take you out to 300mm?
If you read my earlier post giving you a "Nikon Guru's" review about the quality and suitability of the D7200, and from what many have said in differing posts in this thread, I'd be leaning towards a refurbished D7200.
For a lens that'll give you excellent image quality, and I bet might be all you need (given your usage) may I suggest the Nikon 16-80 f2.8-4. It's a relatively new DX lens (launched for Nikon DX cameras in July 2015) giving you full frame equivalence of 27 to 120mm. I'll bet you could take most of the pics you (initially) want with that combo and, once you get the hang of using them, a lot of satisfaction too.
Best to have good options BEFORE you decide !!
http://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/nikon-lens-reviews/nikkor-zoom-lens-reviews/nikon-16-80mm-f28-4e-vr-dx.html
Apr 13, 2017 13:45:13 #
Good advice. I visit Kenrockeell.com almost weekly. But get this. I wrote him a personal email regarding two different Mikons and a long telephoto lens. He wrote back. Told me to dump my Nikon and lenses and buy Canon. LOL
Apr 13, 2017 13:51:46 #
jccash wrote:
Good advice. I visit Kenrockeell.com almost weekly. But get this. I wrote him a personal email regarding two different Mikons and a long telephoto lens. He wrote back. Told me to dump my Nikon and lenses and buy Canon. LOL
From my own personal experience, and if I had to choose between Rockwell and Thom Hogan about "things Nikon", then it'd be Hogan every day !
By the way ...... jccash ...... if you use the "Quote Reply" box at the bottom of every post, and especially when responding to a specific post, it really makes it so much easier for all to follow the direction you're headed.
Apr 13, 2017 14:42:42 #
I have had both 7100 and 7200. The only difference I noticed is that the 7200 has Nikon's weird idea of wireless built in. The wireless does work, but it is a lot more trouble than my idea of wireless connectivity. My vote would be to save yourself $100 and go for the 7100. As for the kit lenses, I have them both, and they are both acceptable lenses, but together they weigh 25.6 ounces so I opted for the 18-300 at 19.4 ounces.
Apr 13, 2017 15:05:26 #
craggycrossers wrote:
From my own personal experience, and if I had to choose between Rockwell and Thom Hogan about "things Nikon", then it'd be Hogan every day !
By the way ...... jccash ...... if you use the "Quote Reply" box at the bottom of every post, and especially when responding to a specific post, it really makes it so much easier for all to follow the direction you're headed.
By the way ...... jccash ...... if you use the "Quote Reply" box at the bottom of every post, and especially when responding to a specific post, it really makes it so much easier for all to follow the direction you're headed.
Right on. Thanks for the tip.
Apr 13, 2017 16:16:11 #
StanRP wrote:
Hi,
The only difference is that the D7200 has a built in wireless link. All the other specs are the same. If you do not need the wireless link, the D7100 is the better buy.
As a comment, the D7100/D7200 both have the pentaprism viewfinder and do not have the anti-aliasing filter.
The only difference is that the D7200 has a built in wireless link. All the other specs are the same. If you do not need the wireless link, the D7100 is the better buy.
As a comment, the D7100/D7200 both have the pentaprism viewfinder and do not have the anti-aliasing filter.
I thought the D7200 had a little better high ISO noise performance and dynamic range than the D7100.
Personally I much prefer the D5300 which has an articulated screen and better (for me) control scheme using an active info screen readable without reading glasses vs. randomly placed unlighted buttons and unreadable green screen, and built in wifi and gps. It takes the same images as D7100, is available as refurb for less than half the price, and weighs half as much.
You can use the savings to get a Sigma 17-50 f2.8 lens which is substantially better image quality than rhe Nikon 18-55.o
I'd only recommend a D7xxx if you have valuable old lenses that demand a focusing motor in the camera. No lens made in the last ten years or so need that.
Apr 13, 2017 16:27:00 #
StaneeRae wrote:
If you shoot events, you might prefer the D7200, since it has 2 SD card slots. The upcoming D7500 only holds 1 card.
Wow. Another Nikon downgrade like taking the sensor cleaner out of the D3400 and the GPS out of the D5xxx after D5300.
Amazing marketing strategy: buy our new offering for more money and get less!
The second card slot was one of the major positive reasons I'd even consider a D7xxx over a D5xxx. It is nice to have an automatic backup!
Apr 13, 2017 16:36:58 #
JimBart
Loc: Western Michigan
I too had the same dilemma shortly before the 7200 came out. I bought the pkg deal for the 7100 with the kit lenses and have never regretted it I have enjoyed it immensely. I am not a professional photographer by any means but have enjoyed both kit lenses and don't worry about what I will need tomorrow My mainstay is the 55 - 300 which takes great pics.
You can always say I could have picked it up the camera cheaper without the kit but you will always have GAS and in the end have spent more money..... for what a slightly better lens and possibly features you will never use I'd say go for the kit and have fun
Good luck with your decision and keep us posted
You can always say I could have picked it up the camera cheaper without the kit but you will always have GAS and in the end have spent more money..... for what a slightly better lens and possibly features you will never use I'd say go for the kit and have fun
Good luck with your decision and keep us posted
Apr 13, 2017 16:49:44 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
The D500 has two memory card slots. One being a XQD slot. The D7200 has two SD slots. The D7500 has one SD slot. It looks like your best bet is to get a fast 64gb card for the camera, rather than 2 each 32gb cards. I generally don't purchase 64gb SD cards.
Apr 13, 2017 17:30:55 #
JoeC7100 wrote:
I recently went through a similar decision and went with the 7100 the big difference that I was aware of was the wireless connectivity on the 7200. A feature i did not place much value in so isaved myself a little money and bought the Tokina 11 - 16 lens.
That's what I thought I was seeing as well. So is everything I see about a D7200 except the wireless stuff applicable to the D7100 as far as aperture speed and size when someone posts that info? Looks like the answer is yes but that's why I ask. I don't know for fact. I now have a D7100 and it's way more camera than the Minolta I parked 15 years ago.
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