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Apr 8, 2017 14:31:41   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
St3v3M wrote:
I thought it would be interesting to see them together. S-


Indeed it is! Thanks for this. Making comparisons is easier side by side.

My own preference remains with the orientation of the original, not because it's better (it may not be) but only because I feel unsettled looking at the flipped version. I think it's a perception thing.

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Apr 8, 2017 14:36:37   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
minniev wrote:
Indeed it is! Thanks for this. Making comparisons is easier side by side.

My own preference remains with the orientation of the original, not because it's better (it may not be) but only because I feel unsettled looking at the flipped version. I think it's a perception thing.

I understand, but it's interesting to think about how we see things when we're not invested in them. Seems to work either way for me, but I wasn't there. S-

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Apr 8, 2017 14:43:18   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
St3v3M wrote:
I understand, but it's interesting to think about how we see things when we're not invested in them. Seems to work either way for me, but I wasn't there. S-


Agree, and it's an interesting topic to explore further. I know there are certain images I flip experimentally to see if I like them better, and others where even if a flip seems to make better sense compositionally, I cannot get comfortable with it because every time I look at it I feel discombobulated; it's like flipping an image of your house, it just won't look right even if it's prettier the other way. But your car, you can flip it every which way and it doesn't matter.

That's why I can flip an alligator, but have trouble flipping a lake. Perception is such an interesting thing!

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Apr 8, 2017 14:46:38   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
minniev wrote:
Agree, and it's an interesting topic to explore further. I know there are certain images I flip experimentally to see if I like them better, and others where even if a flip seems to make better sense compositionally, I cannot get comfortable with it because every time I look at it I feel discombobulated; it's like flipping an image of your house, it just won't look right even if it's prettier the other way. But your car, you can flip it every which way and it doesn't matter.

That's why I can flip an alligator, but have trouble flipping a lake. Perception is such an interesting thing!
Agree, and it's an interesting topic to explore fu... (show quote)


I'll post something similar to lead the discussion there! S-

EDIT: see http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-453127-1.html

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Apr 8, 2017 15:33:33   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Minnie, your various comments about why you can accept certain images flipped, but not others, are excellent. Great food for thought. And guess what...we've been there before

Steve hosted in FYC, October 2015:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-341743-1.html

Also, I did one last fall in Gallery:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-419443-1.html

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Apr 8, 2017 17:47:27   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
minniev wrote:
A Pano of 4 shots. All comments, suggestions, edits appreciated. Also - Don't know if the piece of the bird blind and dead tree on the right should stay or go.


After reading what the others have contributed, I think that I would crop out the tree and the blind. My reason for this is the disconnect of the tree limbs. I think, if you want to keep the dead tree in, which would be nice, I would also keep the blind. To me it adds context. I know these comments are very subjective and you would find just as many people who would disagree with me. Either way you go, you have a lovely image and my favorite part of the composition, besides the meandering stream, is the grasses in the foreground. Lots of detail there and they are blown about which works well with the somewhat stormy sky. This is a lovely image.
Erich

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Apr 8, 2017 18:04:10   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
I thinned the clouds to let a touch more sunshine through in a couple of spots to R.G.'s version to try and add some depth.....may not have succeeded.


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Apr 8, 2017 20:23:32   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Minnie, your various comments about why you can accept certain images flipped, but not others, are excellent. Great food for thought. And guess what...we've been there before

Steve hosted in FYC, October 2015:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-341743-1.html

Also, I did one last fall in Gallery:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-419443-1.html

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I remember now! No wonder it seemed interesting, it was!

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Apr 8, 2017 20:27:50   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
ebrunner wrote:
After reading what the others have contributed, I think that I would crop out the tree and the blind. My reason for this is the disconnect of the tree limbs. I think, if you want to keep the dead tree in, which would be nice, I would also keep the blind. To me it adds context. I know these comments are very subjective and you would find just as many people who would disagree with me. Either way you go, you have a lovely image and my favorite part of the composition, besides the meandering stream, is the grasses in the foreground. Lots of detail there and they are blown about which works well with the somewhat stormy sky. This is a lovely image.
Erich
After reading what the others have contributed, I ... (show quote)


Thank you Erich, I'm willing to give up the blind but not sure about the tree. The blind itself was too big to keep in the frame, so I left the edge, but am not attached to it. I am so appreciative of all of you who have helped me think through the dilemma. Panoramas are just another experiment, something new to figure out.

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Apr 8, 2017 20:28:32   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Frank2013 wrote:
I thinned the clouds to let a touch more sunshine through in a couple of spots to R.G.'s version to try and add some depth.....may not have succeeded.


Yes! Nice touch to an already nice improvement.

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Apr 8, 2017 20:47:57   #
SoHillGuy Loc: Washington
 
Eliminated the building and kept the dead tree as displayed in your original scene. No cropping to the original post.


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Apr 8, 2017 22:31:38   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
SoHillGuy wrote:
Eliminated the building and kept the dead tree as displayed in your original scene. No cropping to the original post.


WOW! I'm duly impressed! You did some interesting reconstruction back there.

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Apr 9, 2017 09:36:10   #
SoHillGuy Loc: Washington
 
minniev wrote:
WOW! I'm duly impressed! You did some interesting reconstruction back there.


I do like the panoramic effect of the composition. I did miss removing something left in the sky above where the blind or structure was. I don't know why I most always see something left undone.

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Apr 9, 2017 10:42:31   #
fuminous Loc: Luling, LA... for now...
 
The clouds bother me. They roll on forever, we know they'€™re there, we expect them, but we don'€™t see them, that is we don't dwell on them, they'€™re just there and yet, because of their contrast and motion they suck energy and distract from seeing what's on the ground. The viewer's attention is pulled up by the clouds while the water hurries him into the next county and the grass and trees don'€™t get much attention. Maybe kicking up the contrast in the grasses and trees - exaggerate and simplify - would pull the viewer's eyes out of the clouds. As they are- the grasses and trees- they're like a drive across Texas- lots of potential but not much actual entertainment. Give the viewer a reason to look into the grass, to see texture and color and shading and variety... and not just blow on down river looking for adventure elsewhere... in my opinion...


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Apr 9, 2017 10:43:16   #
Heather Iles Loc: UK, Somerset
 
St3v3M wrote:
I thought it would be interesting to see them together. S-


How about one version with the twig removed? Would the OP prefer it?

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