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Apr 5, 2017 08:23:43   #
brianmen Loc: Sydney Australia
 
I also had the Strap around my neck but it was attached to the lens. I have since retro fitted to the strap a wire to the camera so both lens (where applicable) and camera are now connected to the strap.

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Apr 5, 2017 08:35:34   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
WesNolan wrote:
I've handled 35 mm and medium format cameras for years. Soon after buying my Canon 5Dsr last year, I was in a restaurant photographing the chef and some of his staf holding fresh, large and heavy whole fish. After staging the shot, now PICTURE THIS: The camera with flash is sitting on the counter to my right, facing me... I reached down and picked up the camera grasping the lens next to the camera body. I raised it off the counter, turning it around to grasp the left side of the camera body... and the lens RELEASED from the camera and fell to the concrete floor bending the focus and zoom rings and denting the mounting ring! And of course... trying to grab the separating lens, I inevitably dropped the body too!!! Folks... I've "responsibly" handled all kinds of professional cameras for over 50 years... and NEVER has something like this happened to me! And NO... I'm NOT getting old and feeble, thank you! My point here, and I've made it WELL KNOWN to Canon, is that the release button to the left of the lens mount should have a raised, protective ring, higher than the height of the button, effective to where you have to insert your finger tip to compress the button! But! This has probably never happened to anyone before and I don't see Canon giving "my" critical annalysis any credence. Yes... I'm VERY aware of extra care required to prevent such acts of foolishness. I've even hung outside of aircraft taking photos and videos of planes manuvering in and out of formation. I'm still here. My hope is that whoever reads this will now NOT be the SECOND ONE to do this! "Just sayin"...
I've handled 35 mm and medium format cameras for y... (show quote)


I feel very sorry for you, it's the nightmare no body wants it to happen! I use Nikon, the lens lock is very secured. I don't know any thing about Canon. Do you need to turn the lens one way or the other to remove the lens after press the lock button?

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Apr 5, 2017 08:51:59   #
Randy Smith
 
I own a 7d and a 7dll and both cameras have completely detached from the lens while hiking.I use them with a 300f/4 and 1x4 extender attached to a shoulder strap.Both cameras have separated from the converter and it doesn't matter which shoulder that I carry it on.The pin on the camera and converter appear to work properly as everything locks together when assembling.They have also separated while being transported in the trunk of my car.I have two 1x4 extenders and haven't been able to isolate one as being the problem.It bewilders me that somehow the button gets depressed and the lens twists to the point of separation,all while I'm aware that it may occur.So far it hasn't happened this year,maybe because I am now in the habit of checking it every few minutes while hiking.I'm probably inadvertently touching the button while walking but what can explain it separating in the trunk of the car.So I do agree that there may be an issue with the mount.

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Apr 5, 2017 09:11:33   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
WesNolan wrote:
I've handled 35 mm and medium format cameras for years. Soon after buying my Canon 5Dsr last year, I was in a restaurant photographing the chef and some of his staf holding fresh, large and heavy whole fish. After staging the shot, now PICTURE THIS: The camera with flash is sitting on the counter to my right, facing me... I reached down and picked up the camera grasping the lens next to the camera body. I raised it off the counter, turning it around to grasp the left side of the camera body... and the lens RELEASED from the camera and fell to the concrete floor bending the focus and zoom rings and denting the mounting ring! And of course... trying to grab the separating lens, I inevitably dropped the body too!!! Folks... I've "responsibly" handled all kinds of professional cameras for over 50 years... and NEVER has something like this happened to me! And NO... I'm NOT getting old and feeble, thank you! My point here, and I've made it WELL KNOWN to Canon, is that the release button to the left of the lens mount should have a raised, protective ring, higher than the height of the button, effective to where you have to insert your finger tip to compress the button! But! This has probably never happened to anyone before and I don't see Canon giving "my" critical analysis any credence. Yes... I'm VERY aware of extra care required to prevent such acts of foolishness. I've even hung outside of aircraft taking photos and videos of planes maneuvering in and out of formation. I'm still here. My hope is that whoever reads this will now NOT be the SECOND ONE to do this! "Just sayin'"...
I've handled 35 mm and medium format cameras for y... (show quote)


You have to push the button and twist the lens to remove it, right? My cameras are Pentax and it takes a bit of effort to remove a lens. At one point at a place where I worked we had three Nikon bodies, an F2 and two F's. As I recall the lenses were easily removed if you pushed the release and twisted. A bit more smoothly and easily than my Pentax equipment.

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Apr 5, 2017 09:32:57   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
WesNolan wrote:
I've handled 35 mm and medium format cameras for years. Soon after buying my Canon 5Dsr last year, I was in a restaurant photographing the chef and some of his staf holding fresh, large and heavy whole fish. After staging the shot, now PICTURE THIS: The camera with flash is sitting on the counter to my right, facing me... I reached down and picked up the camera grasping the lens next to the camera body. I raised it off the counter, turning it around to grasp the left side of the camera body... and the lens RELEASED from the camera and fell to the concrete floor bending the focus and zoom rings and denting the mounting ring! And of course... trying to grab the separating lens, I inevitably dropped the body too!!! Folks... I've "responsibly" handled all kinds of professional cameras for over 50 years... and NEVER has something like this happened to me! And NO... I'm NOT getting old and feeble, thank you! My point here, and I've made it WELL KNOWN to Canon, is that the release button to the left of the lens mount should have a raised, protective ring, higher than the height of the button, effective to where you have to insert your finger tip to compress the button! But! This has probably never happened to anyone before and I don't see Canon giving "my" critical annalysis any credence. Yes... I'm VERY aware of extra care required to prevent such acts of foolishness. I've even hung outside of aircraft taking photos and videos of planes manuvering in and out of formation. I'm still here. My hope is that whoever reads this will now NOT be the SECOND ONE to do this! "Just sayin"...
I've handled 35 mm and medium format cameras for y... (show quote)


I am honestly sorry for your loss and understand your wanting to never experience this again. I am having having a hard time though understanding how the lens could separate from the camera provided it is a bayonet attachment which requires not only pushing the button but also turning the lens off the camera. Of course I am not disbelieving what you have written but am not understanding how it could happen. I just now pushed the lens release button on my Nikon D800 with a Nikon 105mm f2.8 lens attached. While holding the button down I then quite vigorously shook the camera/lens while holding it over a couch pillow. Absolutely nothing happened. The lens was not only still in place but when I released the button and tried to turn the lens to ascertain if it had moved, it had not, not in the slightest bit. Of course I was not there when the mishap occurred but it would seem that the lens was not fully attached to begin with.

Dennis

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Apr 5, 2017 09:36:03   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
Bill_de wrote:
That is really a shame. I could say you shoulda been more careful, but we all take our all off the ball once in a while. I hope the repairs are done quickly so you can put this behind you.

BTW - what happened to the fish?

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Very sorry that this happened to you

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Apr 5, 2017 09:40:38   #
Allen D S
 
I've not seen the equipment you describe, so this might not work. But could you put something next to the button that makes it harder to press? I'm thinking a self adhesive rubber foot, a spot of Velcro, or some other item that would have a different feel and be an obstacle. Thanks for sharing for your experience.

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Apr 5, 2017 09:52:43   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
In all of my 50 years plus I have never picked up my cameras by the lens any body that does this is just plain stupid IMO! But I'm sorry to hear that this is what some people do lesson learned!

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Apr 5, 2017 09:53:43   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
twowindsbear wrote:
That's all it takes to remove a Canon lens? Press a button and it comes right off? Don't'cha have to give the lens a twist of some sort, too???


You can easily imagine how grabbing the rig by the lens could cause it to rotate once the release button is depressed.

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Apr 5, 2017 10:05:03   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
billnikon wrote:
Speed kills.



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Apr 5, 2017 10:06:28   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
riskot wrote:
How hard would it be for Canon to re-engineer the lens release on their next month's new camera? Airplanes have flip covers over critical switches to prevent mistakes. Guns have very simple safety devices to prevent misfires. I've been using Nikon SLR's for over 50 years but I can't remember ever giving any thought to picking up a camera at the body with a long lens mounted. Most times be when I wasn't even looking at it. I can't believe how lucky I've been.


I was reading this topic and the first thing that came to my mind was that this is very similar to situations that can occur with guns. We read in the newspaper any number of stories about guns going off, "for no reason" or "all by themselves." Of course that's total bunk, the reason the gun fired is that somebody pulled the trigger, directly or indirectly. The "safety device" on guns is not there to prevent "misfires." It's there on some guns as a totally last resort to some idiot doing something wrong. These are not "misfires," they are "negligent discharges." A misfire is when you press the trigger on a live cartridge and you get no boom.

This topic is about a human mistake, blaming the camera for spontaneously detaching its lens is the same thing as someone blaming the gun for firing "all by itself." There is only one rule to observe at all times with guns; "they are always loaded." Perhaps the same thing should be considered for DSLRs or any interchangeable lens camera: "the lens is loose."

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Apr 5, 2017 10:10:00   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
wdross wrote:
You forget that thieves use how easy it is to detach the lense from camera body in what appears to be less that 5 seconds. I didn't think that was possible with a seasoned reporter - but the video of him being ripped off was hard to dispute.

We're not talking about thieves here. If I read the OP's original text correctly, he picked up his camera in such a way that he accidentally engaged the release button AND at the same time rotated the lens to release it. I just have trouble getting my head around how both of those events happened while he was picking up his camera to use it. And then unfortunately, as the lens fell to the floor he dropped the camera body while trying to grab the lens. A perfect storm of a disaster​.

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Apr 5, 2017 10:16:36   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
rmalarz wrote:
I didn't take it as rude. Nikon has a button, located on the right when looking at the camera lens towards you. The button needs to be depressed and the lens rotated clockwise, again looking at the lens, and then removed. Attaching a lens is the same procedure, but alignment of the index mark on the camera and the lens is crucial. The lens is locked in place by the release button.

I have little if any, and no recent experience with Canon cameras and lens attachment. I was only going on what the OP wrote, which seems to indicate that a button press releases the lens completely.
--Bob
I didn't take it as rude. Nikon has a button, loca... (show quote)

The Canon release is like the Nikon. The button is fairly stiff to depress and must be held down while the lens is rotated. Just depressing the button is not enough to release the lens.

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Apr 5, 2017 10:20:03   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
cmc65 wrote:
I agree with you. I have grasped my 7dmkii with the 100-400 on it much the same way and panicked when I felt the release button. Luckily I have caught it in time. So sorry this happened to you. Hope it was all fixable

I have a 7D Mark II and use that lens but can't imagine how you could pick up that combination and push the release button accidentally in any normal circumstance.

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Apr 5, 2017 10:23:53   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
RichardSM wrote:
In all of my 50 years plus I have never picked up my cameras by the lens any body that does this is just plain stupid IMO! But I'm sorry to hear that this is what some people do lesson learned!


I am not fortunate enough to own any lenses that significantly outweigh my camera bodies. I was under the impression that, if the lens outweighs the camera body, then you should pick it up by the lens, as to ovoid the extra strain on the lens mount. Is this just a plain stupid thing to do? Or maybe just simply stupid?

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