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Apr 2, 2017 12:41:17   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
idaholover wrote:
Which brings us back to the fact that EVEN Trump can't fix Obama Care and premiums are going up 25% anyway on the way to a total collapse of our health care system thanks to the asshole Obam who does not have to live under the same rules as those whose lives he has destroyed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9_AkJ7cjK8



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Apr 2, 2017 13:13:39   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
phcaan wrote:
Your posts are so bitter and biased, many people just skip over them because all you present is liberal bile and rhetoric with no actual information.


" the poor little piece of Trash is trying and crying! Yep, he's tying all right..., he's trying to make the rich, richer. He could care less about you unless you're rich.

And yes, it is HIS fault now that there is NOT a better plan. They threw something together in a couple of weeks and it stunk so his majority in the house laughed so hard at it, he didn't have the balls to put it to a vote, because then the real numbers would have shown the devestation within.
You are one dumb man. LoL
SS"

You call this 'bitter and biased'? I don't think so; sounds right on to me. Others may skip over posts like this, but I read them, and think he's pretty on target.

Perhaps the bitterness and bias is your projection.

Waddaya think?

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Apr 2, 2017 14:41:18   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
Yes, let's blame Trump who has only been in the White House a few months. Obama and his Demorat cronies lied about the plan and forced on America a plan that was doomed for failure from day one. Let's be honest and face facts. Demorats didn't fix Obamacare in 7 years even thought what is happening today was predictable and foreseeable. Demorats are the reason we have the debacle in healthcare we have today. They forced through a plan that the majority hadn't even read. The Republicans rushed and put forth a plan that was not much better and failed. In order to fix the problem and bring cost down there are probably going to have to be some cuts that won't be popular with everyone. If the Demorats would quite trying so hard to destroy Trump, would get over their sniveling and whimpering about Hildabeast losing the election they thought they had in the bag and then start doing their jobs in a bi-partisan manner maybe something could good could happen with healthcare in America.
Twardlow wrote:
" the poor little piece of Trash is trying and crying! Yep, he's tying all right..., he's trying to make the rich, richer. He could care less about you unless you're rich.

And yes, it is HIS fault now that there is NOT a better plan. They threw something together in a couple of weeks and it stunk so his majority in the house laughed so hard at it, he didn't have the balls to put it to a vote, because then the real numbers would have shown the devestation within.
You are one dumb man. LoL
SS"

You call this 'bitter and biased'? I don't think so; sounds right on to me. Others may skip over posts like this, but I read them, and think he's pretty on target.

Perhaps the bitterness and bias is your projection.

Waddaya think?
" the poor little piece of Trash is trying an... (show quote)

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Apr 2, 2017 15:04:14   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Huey Driver wrote:
Yes, let's blame Trump who has only been in the White House a few months. Obama and his Demorat cronies lied about the plan and forced on America a plan that was doomed for failure from day one. Let's be honest and face facts. Demorats didn't fix Obamacare in 7 years even thought what is happening today was predictable and foreseeable. Demorats are the reason we have the debacle in healthcare we have today. They forced through a plan that the majority hadn't even read. The Republicans rushed and put forth a plan that was not much better and failed. In order to fix the problem and bring cost down there are probably going to have to be some cuts that won't be popular with everyone. If the Demorats would quite trying so hard to destroy Trump, would get over their sniveling and whimpering about Hildabeast losing the election they thought they had in the bag and then start doing their jobs in a bi-partisan manner maybe something could good could happen with healthcare in America.
Yes, let's blame Trump who has only been in the Wh... (show quote)


Trump done more damage in one month than last two pres. An gettin worse

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Apr 2, 2017 15:22:28   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Huey Driver wrote:
Yes, let's blame Trump who has only been in the White House a few months. Obama and his Demorat cronies lied about the plan and forced on America a plan that was doomed for failure from day one. Let's be honest and face facts. Demorats didn't fix Obamacare in 7 years even thought what is happening today was predictable and foreseeable. Demorats are the reason we have the debacle in healthcare we have today. They forced through a plan that the majority hadn't even read. The Republicans rushed and put forth a plan that was not much better and failed. In order to fix the problem and bring cost down there are probably going to have to be some cuts that won't be popular with everyone. If the Demorats would quite trying so hard to destroy Trump, would get over their sniveling and whimpering about Hildabeast losing the election they thought they had in the bag and then start doing their jobs in a bi-partisan manner maybe something could good could happen with healthcare in America.
Yes, let's blame Trump who has only been in the Wh... (show quote)


Despite what you say, illogical, uninformed and perhaps dishonest it is, or at least as misguided as you say it, changes to Obamacare required votes from both parties, and the Republicans wouldn't even vote for their own bills if Obama approved of them.

Republicans Bear Responsibility.

Trump has been elected for just over two months, a n d. H a s n ' t. P a s s e d. A. S i n g l e. B i l l.

He was in total control in both houses, and he couldn't get it done. More failure. The Republican plan didn't fit your "not much better" slogan, as it would--by Republicans own numbers--deprive 26,000,000 people their coverage--and rates were to go up more than Obamacare, and coverage would suffer.

The Democrats are trying to destroy Trump--I admit that, I support it, and I hope fervently that it happens soon--as he is incompetent, in violation of the law and constitution, corrupt, dishonest, and quite likely a traitor to this country. I have no embarrassment or guilt in wishing him ill, and wish I had a better vocabulary and legal background and more detailed knowledge of the facts so that I could do more to his disadvantage.

Most interesting of all, Democrats aren't "sniveling and whimpering" about Hillary losing the election, but Conservatives fill that bill. They can't forget her and still--even as we speak--find her dominating their memories, probably their dreams, too, while the victor, who lost the popular vote I remind you, fails in every event, with no prospect for a successful term.

Republicans bear Responsibility.

Rumor on the internet claims he is already considering resigning, and the facts are he may be impeached or indicted or forced from Office by the end of the summer. The sooner the better, and soonest is best.

Our nation faces a constitutional crisis, and the possible loss of our form of government because of his collusion with Russia, something no one, including the founding fathers, ever anticipated.

Enough Incompetence! Enough Dishonesty! Enough Corruption! Enough Lying! Enough Donald Trump!!

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Apr 2, 2017 15:26:05   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
dirtpusher wrote:
Trump done more damage in one month than last two pres. An gettin worse


...and after only two months!

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Apr 2, 2017 15:35:12   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Checkmate wrote:
Wetback invaders and DemoCrap ghetto trash were looking for freebies so they went to the emergency room for gunshot wounds and hangnails.


That's great, that's what the emergency room is for...., especially things like hangnails, headaches, tummy aches and colds!!! That's what wingbutts do! It was designed for white trash wingbutts!!! Gotta love the wingbutt emergency room system!!!
Now, go Check Mate, he's probably with white trash....., oops, he is, he's with you!!!
SS

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Apr 2, 2017 15:52:11   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Twardlow wrote:
Despite what you say, illogical, uninformed and perhaps dishonest it is, or at least as misguided as you say it, changes to Obamacare required votes from both parties, and the Republicans wouldn't even vote for their own bills if Obama approved of them.

Republicans Bear Responsibility.

Trump has been elected for just over two months, a n d. H a s n ' t. P a s s e d. A. S i n g l e. B i l l.

He was in total control in both houses, and he couldn't get it done. More failure. The Republican plan didn't fit your "not much better" slogan, as it would--by Republicans own numbers--deprive 26,000,000 people their coverage--and rates were to go up more than Obamacare, and coverage would suffer.

The Democrats are trying to destroy Trump--I admit that, I support it, and I hope fervently that it happens soon--as he is incompetent, in violation of the law and constitution, corrupt, dishonest, and quite likely a traitor to this country. I have no embarrassment or guilt in wishing him ill, and wish I had a better vocabulary and legal background and more detailed knowledge of the facts so that I could do more to his disadvantage.

Most interesting of all, Democrats aren't "sniveling and whimpering" about Hillary losing the election, but Conservatives fill that bill. They can't forget her and still--even as we speak--find her dominating their memories, probably their dreams, too, while the victor, who lost the popular vote I remind you, fails in every event, with no prospect for a successful term.

Republicans bear Responsibility.

Rumor on the internet claims he is already considering resigning, and the facts are he may be impeached or indicted or forced from Office by the end of the summer. The sooner the better, and soonest is best.

Our nation faces a constitutional crisis, and the possible loss of our form of government because of his collusion with Russia, something no one, including the founding fathers, ever anticipated.

Enough Incompetence! Enough Dishonesty! Enough Corruption! Enough Lying! Enough Donald Trump!!
Despite what you say, illogical, uninformed and pe... (show quote)


And then....

6 different agencies have come together to investigate Trump's possible Russia ties

New reports indicate it’s been going on since last spring.



Here’s a quick rundown of what we know so far, what we don’t, and how Trump could shut down the whole investigation.

The intelligence community is concerned about Trump-Russia links

It’s worth stepping back and noting that at this point there’s a consensus in the intelligence community that the Kremlin was behind the email hacks of the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton campaign chair John Podesta.

Earlier in January, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declassified a report that concluded with “high confidence” — based on intelligence gathered by the FBI, CIA, and NSA — that Russia’s Vladimir Putin oversaw an “influence campaign” designed to interfere in the 2016 election. The report explicitly stated that the intention was to denigrate the US electoral process, hurt Clinton’s chances, and raise Trump’s.

What these emerging reports suggest, though, is that officials in several US intelligence agencies have evidently decided that it’s worth investigating the possibility of links between Trump’s campaign and Russia.

The BBC report, published on January 12, claims that after the CIA was allegedly shown a tape with a compromising conversation about money being funneled from the Kremlin to Trump’s campaign, a joint task force was formed. Personnel from the FBI, CIA, National Security Agency, Justice Department, the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, and representatives of the director of national intelligence formed an interagency working group to look into the matter.

According to the BBC, the interagency group obtained a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the highly secretive US court that overseas warrants related to national security investigations, to intercept electronic records from two Russian banks. A lawyer familiar with the case told the BBC that three of Trump’s associates were the primary targets of the inquiry, but that ultimately “it's clear this is about Trump.”

The McClatchy report, published on Tuesday, claims that the joint task force’s investigation looked into, among other things, “how money may have moved from the Kremlin to covertly help Trump win.” This includes looking into whether the Kremlin may have sent money to the hackers of the DNC servers and Podesta’s email address to help get Trump elected.

According to the report, “One of the allegations involves whether a system for routinely paying thousands of Russian-American pensioners may have been used to pay some email hackers in the United States or to supply money to intermediaries who would then pay the hackers.”

The Times report says the working group is analyzing “intercepted communications and financial transactions” as part of a larger inquiry into links between Russian officials and Trump’s associates.

The Times piece also specifically names three former Trump advisers in particular who its sources say are under the magnifying glass: Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair; Carter Page, a former foreign policy adviser for Trump; and Roger Stone, a former key adviser for Trump. Trump’s camp and the former advisers denied the possible links discussed in the New York Times report.

So far the reports all indicate that these links are possibilities that are being investigated. We don’t know that any of these connections this interagency group is reportedly investigating will actually materialize — or how well-grounded the concerns are. It does appear, though, that they’re substantial enough to merit the sustained attention of a six-agency task force.

The crucial question now is whether they’ll continue their investigations, or if the new Trump administration will take measures to disband the group, as some of its members seem to think they will.

Emphasis was added by you know whom.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/21/14335112/trump-russia-intelligence-fbi

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Apr 2, 2017 15:56:12   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Huey Driver wrote:
Yes, let's blame Trump

start doing their jobs in a bi-partisan manner maybe something could good could happen with healthcare in America.


No, let's blame the Repukelicans in America...., you should have gotten your head out of your smelly area before you voted him in. So it's ACTUALLY YOUR fault.

There is a Repukelican majority in the Congress, and by VERY POOR, rushed and trash can thinking, they couldn't pass anything that is not an EO.

Bipartisan??? The Dems just sat back and watched as the 3 ring circus known as the repukelican party was to busy puking on itself to pass anything! They had 7 years!!! Maybe if they had 20!! LoL
The Democrates? No, while the half baked Repukelican plan was getting cooked and by the time the rest of the Repukelicans we're getting their heads out of their asses(they have very tight asses and couldn't get them out fast enough) the freedom caucus shit all over them and sank their shit laden ship. Don't blame it on the Dems you idiot!!! Blame it on YOURSELF
SS

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Apr 2, 2017 16:49:17   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Twardlow wrote:


I would no accept any of this without documentation.



The cost of the premium and the huge deductible are pretty reasonable sounding.

The fallacy is that it has to do with the eye coverage.

Insurance rates and deductibles have gone thru the roof for two primary reasons: elimination of pre-existing conditions, and elimination of life time maximum coverage amounts.

They are both nice ideas, but they do not get provided by insurance companies free of charge.

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Apr 2, 2017 17:47:24   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
What a bunch of drivel you have posted. Spoken like a true Demorat.
Twardlow wrote:
Despite what you say, illogical, uninformed and perhaps dishonest it is, or at least as misguided as you say it, changes to Obamacare required votes from both parties, and the Republicans wouldn't even vote for their own bills if Obama approved of them.

Republicans Bear Responsibility.

Trump has been elected for just over two months, a n d. H a s n ' t. P a s s e d. A. S i n g l e. B i l l.

He was in total control in both houses, and he couldn't get it done. More failure. The Republican plan didn't fit your "not much better" slogan, as it would--by Republicans own numbers--deprive 26,000,000 people their coverage--and rates were to go up more than Obamacare, and coverage would suffer.

The Democrats are trying to destroy Trump--I admit that, I support it, and I hope fervently that it happens soon--as he is incompetent, in violation of the law and constitution, corrupt, dishonest, and quite likely a traitor to this country. I have no embarrassment or guilt in wishing him ill, and wish I had a better vocabulary and legal background and more detailed knowledge of the facts so that I could do more to his disadvantage.

Most interesting of all, Democrats aren't "sniveling and whimpering" about Hillary losing the election, but Conservatives fill that bill. They can't forget her and still--even as we speak--find her dominating their memories, probably their dreams, too, while the victor, who lost the popular vote I remind you, fails in every event, with no prospect for a successful term.

Republicans bear Responsibility.

Rumor on the internet claims he is already considering resigning, and the facts are he may be impeached or indicted or forced from Office by the end of the summer. The sooner the better, and soonest is best.

Our nation faces a constitutional crisis, and the possible loss of our form of government because of his collusion with Russia, something no one, including the founding fathers, ever anticipated.

Enough Incompetence! Enough Dishonesty! Enough Corruption! Enough Lying! Enough Donald Trump!!
Despite what you say, illogical, uninformed and pe... (show quote)

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Apr 2, 2017 18:32:22   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Twardlow wrote:
" the poor little piece of Trash is trying and crying! Yep, he's tying all right..., he's trying to make the rich, richer. He could care less about you unless you're rich.

And yes, it is HIS fault now that there is NOT a better plan. They threw something together in a couple of weeks and it stunk so his majority in the house laughed so hard at it, he didn't have the balls to put it to a vote, because then the real numbers would have shown the devestation within.
You are one dumb man. LoL
SS"

You call this 'bitter and biased'? I don't think so; sounds right on to me. Others may skip over posts like this, but I read them, and think he's pretty on target.

Perhaps the bitterness and bias is your projection.

Waddaya think?
" the poor little piece of Trash is trying an... (show quote)

I think that I am pleased as I can be with president Trump, I only wish he could get more done, but I expected nothing less of the rioting, screaming, mob in the streets democrats.
I alos take any post by you with a grain salt, so to speak. After your diatribes on black lives matter, Treyvon Martin and that thug Brown in Ferguson, anything you say surely comes from another dimension, a demented one.

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Apr 2, 2017 18:38:14   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Twardlow wrote:
Despite what you say, illogical, uninformed and perhaps dishonest it is, or at least as misguided as you say it, changes to Obamacare required votes from both parties, and the Republicans wouldn't even vote for their own bills if Obama approved of them.

Republicans Bear Responsibility.

Trump has been elected for just over two months, a n d. H a s n ' t. P a s s e d. A. S i n g l e. B i l l.

He was in total control in both houses, and he couldn't get it done. More failure. The Republican plan didn't fit your "not much better" slogan, as it would--by Republicans own numbers--deprive 26,000,000 people their coverage--and rates were to go up more than Obamacare, and coverage would suffer.

The Democrats are trying to destroy Trump--I admit that, I support it, and I hope fervently that it happens soon--as he is incompetent, in violation of the law and constitution, corrupt, dishonest, and quite likely a traitor to this country. I have no embarrassment or guilt in wishing him ill, and wish I had a better vocabulary and legal background and more detailed knowledge of the facts so that I could do more to his disadvantage.

Most interesting of all, Democrats aren't "sniveling and whimpering" about Hillary losing the election, but Conservatives fill that bill. They can't forget her and still--even as we speak--find her dominating their memories, probably their dreams, too, while the victor, who lost the popular vote I remind you, fails in every event, with no prospect for a successful term.

Republicans bear Responsibility.

Rumor on the internet claims he is already considering resigning, and the facts are he may be impeached or indicted or forced from Office by the end of the summer. The sooner the better, and soonest is best.

Our nation faces a constitutional crisis, and the possible loss of our form of government because of his collusion with Russia, something no one, including the founding fathers, ever anticipated.

Enough Incompetence! Enough Dishonesty! Enough Corruption! Enough Lying! Enough Donald Trump!!
Despite what you say, illogical, uninformed and pe... (show quote)

Got take your medicine and got to bed, you have completely lost all concept of reality.

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Apr 2, 2017 18:40:02   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
SharpShooter wrote:
That's great, that's what the emergency room is for...., especially things like hangnails, headaches, tummy aches and colds!!! That's what wingbutts do! It was designed for white trash wingbutts!!! Gotta love the wingbutt emergency room system!!!
Now, go Check Mate, he's probably with white trash....., oops, he is, he's with you!!!
SS


Ho, hum, our little crybaby is at it again, nothing to see here folks, just move along and ignore this silly tirade.

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Apr 2, 2017 19:30:59   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I haven't really been keeping up, but it seems I read somewhere they already tried that!
Can't remember the actual outcome?
Maybe Baby Huey can give us a in-dept report on the outcome!!!
That's assuming his brain is not to addled from the blowback of all the Agent Orange he dumped!!!
SS

PS, anybody that reads FB for news deserves a $50,000 co-pay!!!!! LoL
I haven't really been keeping up, but it seems I r... (show quote)


You may call yourself a sharpshooter, but you're so STUPID, we don't think, with your single brain cell, that you could hit the broad side of a barn from 6-inches away, eh ?

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