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Mar 14, 2017 13:24:44   #
zoomphoto Loc: Seattle, WA USA
 
Griff wrote:
Confirm your opinion Mamiya 6.
Exquisite camera.
When I think of mine loaded with Neopan 400, I could almost weep . . .


Now I'm going to really make you cry. I still have 41 rolls of Neo 400 in the freezer. I use it sparingly when I feel nostalgic.

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Mar 14, 2017 13:43:45   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Boris Ekner wrote:
Just asking out of curiosity. No specific questions. As the Swede I am, I'm a bit amazed that they are still around comcidering the price. A camera this good, and this expensive, should have a pretty limited market.

The story goes that the Hasselads where used at the moon landings in the late 1960's. And that one camera was dropped in space ending up as a "sattelite" for many decades before it entered the atmosphere and burned up.

It would be interesting, though, to hear how it is compared to other, more common, brands.
Just asking out of curiosity. No specific question... (show quote)


As a film camera, there were few to compete with it. Full frame 35mm was faster. But with a negative or transparency at ~2.5 times the size of a 35mm, full frames were no competition for detail, especially with large groups. 4X5s view cameras and up were the only way to surpass the Hasselblad.

But in the digital age, the differences have changed. It would be difficult to produce a 6X6cm sensor with few defects (and they do not make a 6X6 yet). It is hard enough to just produce the 4.5X6cm sensor. And the sensors are not like film. Film records the light and is processed out the same no matter what the size. With digital, the information on a larger sensor takes more time (two frames per second versus 15 to 60 frames per second), uses more memory space, and requires more processing power. So this is all time and cost. But it is not all doom and gloom for medium format. The dynamic range for a Hasselblad sensor is 14 stops without doing anything other than pressing the shutter button. And with pixel counts of 50 to a future 250, along with a high dynamic range, full frames can emulate but not produce the type of image a Hasselblad can produce. And even Hasselblad is willing to see that the future of photography will be mirrorless. Are the differences between Hasselblad and full frame great? It depends on how and what one is shooting. For how and what most of us are shooting, I feel for most of us the answer is no. But there are some pros and a few advance amateurs that it makes all the difference in their shooting and processing.

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Mar 14, 2017 14:14:38   #
Kuzano
 
selmslie wrote:
I used on for several years. The camera was superbly made and a dream to operate but the 24x65 mm format was very difficult. There were few lenses available and they were expensive. In the end I felt I would be better off just cropping a 6x7 image. I traded it for a Leica M6.


The Hasselblad X-Pan was made by and branded for Hasselblad by Fujifilm. The slightly less expensive way to get an X-pan under the Fujifilm name.... same camera.

In fact, Fujica (Fujifilm) was the reason I got rid of my Hasselblads. Bigger format and equally good lenses, with the EBC coating. Film format for the Fujifilm "Big Leica Rangefinder" was 6X9 CM or 4.7 times bigger than 35mm film frame.

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Mar 14, 2017 14:54:44   #
marty wild Loc: England
 
Been to a presentation night! They are completely strip able all parts are sent in for service repair by which part is not working. You can mix and match with bodies by a clever click and lock system. The mirror is in the lens. So I guess that means less wear, I did lose interest when the cost of getting kitted out is in excess of £20,000. So it's no good if you have deep pockets and short arms. So if you have the cash to splash expect to only lose about 10% of your investment after 10 years. All other manufacturers you will lose 90% after 10. If it's still working if not! I am afraid it's the big one hundred %

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Mar 14, 2017 15:00:22   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
zoomphoto wrote:
Now I'm going to really make you cry. I still have 41 rolls of Neo 400 in the freezer. I use it sparingly when I feel nostalgic.


No bl**dy comment!

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Mar 14, 2017 15:42:50   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
I used some Hassy's back in the day.... they are wonderful cameras and even better lenses.

But... except for their Xpan panoramic, you had to be happy with the square image format on film (no longer the case, with digtal Hasselblads). That has the advantage of never having to re-orient the camera or rotate the film back for vertical/portrait orientation, but the disadvantage of not matching up particularly well with most print formats. You ended up cropping their images a lot, which effectively reduced them to slightly better than 645 format film cameras... i.e., significantly smaller negatives than 6x7cm, 6x8cm and 6x9cm medium format cameras could produce. Mamiya, Pentax, Fuji, Rollei, Bronica and others offered different and more image format/aspect ratio choices.

Hassy, on the other hand, rigidly offered only that format for their film cameras, as well as oddball filter sizes for their lenses. But their mechanical quality was second-to-none.... maybe too good (so close tolerance that they sometimes would jam or need special "winterizing" with lighter weight lubricants, to use out in cold weather (same with Leica). They also stuck with manual focus, manual exposure control and mostly manual film advance, long after other manufacturers adopted new AF and motor drive technologies (though Hasselblad at least was quicker than Leica to adopt "new-fangled fads").

Today's Hasselblad is quite different from back in the days of film. They've gotten more innovative and appear to be working harder to remain relevant. But I guess that's true of any camera manufacturer who wants to survive in the "Brave New World" of digital in the 21st century!

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Mar 14, 2017 15:55:26   #
gtoll2
 
I used a 'blad 1000F. Loved it! Had it overhauled and the focus was incorrect after that. I suspect that the ground glass was installed wrong side up. Had stopped doing the kind of photography that I bought it for, so never had it fixed.

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Mar 14, 2017 16:20:58   #
PhotobobII
 
that should read 110mm F2.0 lens

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Mar 14, 2017 17:42:51   #
zoomphoto Loc: Seattle, WA USA
 
Griff wrote:
No bl**dy comment!


I feel bad now. Send me an address and I will send you a roll.

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Mar 14, 2017 19:41:43   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
I used a Hasse along with a twin lens for over thirty years in my wedding photography. Never had any trouble with either.

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Mar 14, 2017 19:43:39   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
zoomphoto wrote:
I feel bad now. Send me an address and I will send you a roll.


Thank you.
You are kind, as I would expect of a man of such discernment, but I do still have a couple of rolls.
My trouble is more like that of a man who has a Bugatti full of petrol - and nowhere to go. . .
Kind regards,
G.

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Mar 14, 2017 20:07:51   #
bwilliams
 
Used one in the mid 70's to 80's for yearbook and weddings. Built like a tank and tack sharp one year I took 10,000 photos with out a problem.

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Mar 14, 2017 20:07:51   #
jackinkc Loc: Kansas City
 
Boris Ekner wrote:
Just out of curiosity ...

Is there anyone here using, or have used, Hasselblad's cameras?


Yes! I used a 503 CW for several years.

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Mar 14, 2017 20:20:38   #
zoomphoto Loc: Seattle, WA USA
 
Griff wrote:
Thank you.
You are kind, as I would expect of a man of such discernment, but I do still have a couple of rolls.
My trouble is more like that of a man who has a Bugatti full of petrol - and nowhere to go. . .
Kind regards,
G.



Your not tempted to spend every minute roaming between the 100 or so camera stores in London and taking pictures in between?

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Mar 14, 2017 21:57:30   #
brrywill
 
Is that H5D-50 the 50 back or 50C (CMOS)? I have a 500C/M with 8 or 9 lenses and was thinking of either a 50 back for the C/M or a used H3 or H4D with a 50 back. Haven't tried either so not sure which way to go. I know the 50C is a smaller sensor and wasn't sure if the image quality would be up to the larger CCD 50 sensor?

Thanks

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