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Mar 8, 2017 13:09:35   #
canon Lee
 
canon Lee wrote:
I think that the younger generation are more into photo's than us old fogies. It's all about social media sites, & instant gratification. They use their versions of photography with their iPHONES. They have no interest in learning about taking photos but are interestested in capturing the fun moments in their lives. We on the other hand are captivated by knowing how to take excellent photos. This is so evident in the wedding photography business, where the young ones getting married wont pay for a professional photographer, but use cragslist for non pros. They will pay more for the DJ and flowers than the photographer. Its more that they are not interested in quality shots just lots of "SNAPS" from their friends. Ive done weddings where the couples gave out throw away cameras to their guest. Today I am lucky to even get a wedding. I can no longer get what I used to before digital cameras were sold so cheaply and required no knowledge of photography.
So the emphasis is on quick snaps from an iPHONE . In this era of instant results and fast food, this generation has no patience to learn to take good photo's, or pay for someone to take good photo's. Sadly it's an era that has passed, and now is either a commercial studio or a retired person that take good photos.
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Mar 8, 2017 13:12:49   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
katastrofa wrote:
Unless they happen to be female or disabled.


Are you equating being female with being disabled on International Women's Day?

Sheesh!

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Mar 8, 2017 13:13:32   #
jsenear Loc: Hopkins, MN.
 
bsprague wrote:
Quoting from LensVid:

"Cameras are for older people – you can’t see this in the numbers but we clearly see this all around us – aside from the professional segment – dedicated cameras do not interest the younger generation. The people who are still interested in photography are typically around the ages of 40-60 or more – the same people who maybe shot with analog cameras as youngsters and now have the time and money to invest in photography as a hobby – their children and grandchildren are far less interested in cameras and prefer to use their smartphones."

In other words, as we die off, so will the camera business.
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I agree. My Son and all of his friends feel the same way. The Smartphones have become their cameras.

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Mar 8, 2017 13:18:11   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Meeker wrote:
And I bet your Brownie 127 still works flawlessly today!


It would if I put film in it!

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Mar 8, 2017 13:26:13   #
p-pictures
 
No my grand daughter wanted a camera for christmas. I think that we just have to spark the interest. Also as a bus driver I have taken many high school students to a school that teaches photography .

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Mar 8, 2017 13:35:51   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Abo wrote:
I disagree.

Reality like images (even video in 3d) can be computer generated from no image at all.

So the physics of optics and other factors that effect resolution are moot.


No they are not moot points. Perhaps it is your comprehension that is lacking here.

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Mar 8, 2017 13:44:32   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
The camera market - perhaps better called the digital imaging market - is in transition. This presentation from Canon may be informative for some. It discusses some changes in the market and how Canon is responding as a business. 49% market share of the ILC market isn't too bad as far as cameras go. Digital imaging is only going to grow.

The world changes, and we need to adapt.

Canon Corporate Strategy Presentation
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Mar 8, 2017 14:04:30   #
ppage Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)
 
I don't care what she's using for photos. I just get my millennial daughter to buy me lenses. Works great.

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Mar 8, 2017 14:06:34   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
ppage wrote:
I don't care what she's using for photos. I just get my millennial daughter to buy me lenses. Works great.



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Mar 8, 2017 14:07:53   #
DanCulleton
 
Photography keeps me young, despite the 1944 date on my birth certificate.

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Mar 8, 2017 14:09:30   #
Edia Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Film and buggy whip companies are gone. Progress marches on. Every year, the smart phone cameras get much better. Go out among young people at a parade or other public events. Almost all of them are using their smart phones to record the proceedings. Yeah, most of us on the site use expensive DSLR's to take photos and occasionally get some good shots and view photography as a hobby. However, every year the big camera companies come out with new and improved gear that is incrementally better than last years equipment. At this rate, phone cameras will surpass the capabilities of the dedicated cameras and cameras will be relegated to the die hard few. The hand writing is on the wall.

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Mar 8, 2017 14:10:55   #
n3eg Loc: West coast USA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Creates too much pollution? Let's liquefy the folks and flush the toilet and list the name on an internet web site. Next evolution?


Soylent Green is photographers?

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Mar 8, 2017 14:25:49   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Okay this is where my occupation can help with information. I've always enjoyed taking a very unscientific survey, using my college students. Then record this over time. Example: how many of you are listening to over-the-air FM music? Five years ago, down to 5 in a class of 15 (yes, I'm fortunate to teach in a university where class sizes are typically 15 students per class). Three years ago, the number was down to two. Two years ago, down to zero are listening to over-the-air FM. Continuing today, none of my students are listening to over-the-air FM radio.

Now, about cameras. 100% are all taking their pics with their cameras. And almost 100% are printing none of them. What is a shame. However, I always have at least one (in a class of 15) that uses a DSLR, often two or three. That number has never changed, and their enthusiasm is nearly identical to when all of us begin using our SLR cameras.

Sorry, I vote NO to the Death of the DSLR. It won't happen. Might I suggest you all keep an eye out for what is happening to the LP records and turntables? Production of both are very much up in our country, even higher production in Europe. With a joking smile, I always announce to my students: "you all won't let LPs die, will you?" Get ready, for the return of CDs. Manufacturers are already in the up swing of new...and very expensive...CD players.

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Mar 8, 2017 14:27:11   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
bsprague wrote:
Quoting from LensVid:

"Cameras are for older people – you can’t see this in the numbers but we clearly see this all around us – aside from the professional segment – dedicated cameras do not interest the younger generation. The people who are still interested in photography are typically around the ages of 40-60 or more – the same people who maybe shot with analog cameras as youngsters and now have the time and money to invest in photography as a hobby – their children and grandchildren are far less interested in cameras and prefer to use their smartphones."

In other words, as we die off, so will the camera business.
Quoting from LensVid: br br "Cameras are for... (show quote)


Well, I'm beyond old myself, but all I know about the future of the photography business is that, whenever I visit my camera store - Service Camera, Baltimore, where they always match the B&H price - half the staff and half the customers look like they've just come from the local art school, the Maryland Institute of Art. The other half is a bit younger than me, but not very much younger.

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Mar 8, 2017 14:37:27   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
elliott937 wrote:
Okay this is where my occupation can help with information. I've always enjoyed taking a very unscientific survey, using my college students. Then record this over time. Example: how many of you are listening to over-the-air FM music? Five years ago, down to 5 in a class of 15 (yes, I'm fortunate to teach in a university where class sizes are typically 15 students per class). Three years ago, the number was down to two. Two years ago, down to zero are listening to over-the-air FM. Continuing today, none of my students are listening to over-the-air FM radio.

Now, about cameras. 100% are all taking their pics with their cameras. And almost 100% are printing none of them. What is a shame. However, I always have at least one (in a class of 15) that uses a DSLR, often two or three. That number has never changed, and their enthusiasm is nearly identical to when all of us begin using our SLR cameras.

Sorry, I vote NO to the Death of the DSLR. It won't happen. Might I suggest you all keep an eye out for what is happening to the LP records and turntables? Production of both are very much up in our country, even higher production in Europe. With a joking smile, I always announce to my students: "you all won't let LPs die, will you?" Get ready, for the return of CDs. Manufacturers are already in the up swing of new...and very expensive...CD players.
Okay this is where my occupation can help with inf... (show quote)


Well said, Sir.

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