gvarner wrote:
As an amateur and not an artist by any means, I struggle with this concept. Art in photography can be accomplished by plan or by fortune (and that doesn't mean GAS). So I'm thinking that the art side shows the use of symbolic thought, using a symbol for some physical thing that is not there, or for an emotion that is not the viewer's own. But I struggle with the conflict that photography can capture a moment in time, in the past as it is, but not a moment in the future. Is there a symbolic approach to that?
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Just chill and enjoy taking snaps is the key to it. The Hog is often full of poor saps who have bought a camera and feel what they capture on the sensor is art and even more sad is they call themselves artists and believe it! Just laugh and enjoy listening to them and their inflated opinion of themselves.
What does "GAS" stand for?
gvarner wrote:
But I struggle with the conflict that photography can capture a moment in time, in the past as it is, but not a moment in the future.
I'm planning to take a picture of the future tomorrow.
I believe that photos can be simple inventories but good photos also communicate based on the composition, cropping, etc. and what they communicate can like words in a book be perceived differently by different viewers looking at the same images. That's the wonder of art...futures? the image is viewed in the present and how its message is processed by the viewer is up to that viewer's imagination. Better images stimulate even more imagination by viewers....
Ansley Adams was a photographer that made his art in the darkroom creating prints using masking techniques to change shadow and highlight detail through the manipulation of exposure times on the print. Those techniques were used in the printing trades since the 50's and increased with the electronic scanners of the 80's. Photoshop is the parent day darkroom. It is being used by current world photographers to present art by combining through masking two or more photographs. The results can be viewed on
www.saatchiart.com. The direct answer to your question is yes. Photography can be used as art to project the future as seen on the minds eye of the photographer. It's a response to good picture snapping available through the automation of digital cameras. Most photographers shoot everything on automatic and the camera makes the near perfect picture. The manipulation of photos makes sense for some that are more creative on their photography approach.
Puddin wrote:
What does "GAS" stand for?
Blowing it out your wallet... as in Gear Acquisition Syndrome. Sort of like "that new car itch", but with cameras, lenses, lights... computers, software... power tools...
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
burkphoto wrote:
Shovel, please...
If you enjoy it, who cares?
Academics love to argue horse hockey like this. To paraphrase Descartes, if you think something is art, it is. Perception is nine tenths of reality.
Asking such questions is like getting a lecture hall full of PhD philosophers to define God. It starts an endless round of controversy that just pisses people off and starts wars!
Relax and enjoy the side show.
That reminds me of one of the few things I learned in grad school:
Q. What is an economist (or insert your favorite academic discipline here)?
A. An economist is someone who finds something that works in practice and writes in academic journals whether it will work in theory.
Bazbo wrote:
That reminds me of one of the few things I learned in grad school:
Q. What is an economist (or insert your favorite academic discipline here)?
A. An economist is someone who finds something that works in practice and writes in academic journals whether it will work in theory.
As a college economics major, I agree! My favorite professor was fond of saying that economists can't predict the future. They can measure what happened in the past, and they love to guess about WHY things happened! He also said *behavioral psychology* was well worth studying by every economist, since human behavior drives economic performance. For all the econometric equations that are supposed to relate things in theory, there are quirks of behavior that prove them inaccurate.
Johnny Carson once went on the Tonight Show and made a joke about a toilet paper shortage. The next morning, there was a nation-wide run on TP! This week, Trump and Janet Yellen both made speeches, and Wall Street went crazy. Hope, confidence, fear, and despair drive up and down movements in the markets. If you change peoples' perceptions, whether true or false, you change their behavior.
Theories? Meh. Prove 'em!
If you shoot it, print it, frame it and hang it on the wall, at least you must believe it's art. My wife is a fine artist - acrylic and watercolor - so I know I'm only a wannabe. Interestingly, she can't compose a decent photograph but give her a brush and it's a different world.
The original of my brother's cabin was a bit drab, but with a few modifications done right in my trusty D5100, this image is not unlike the painting his sister-in-law did that's hanging on his wall. My hands don't work well with a brush and palette, but my mind's eye has always been finding interesting compositions which I can capture if the camera is in my hands. Now with digital, the options are more numerous than ever. I am not a drawing artist, but am an artist just the same, and thanks to photography, others can see the art that my mind's eye wants to capture.
Definition of art that I like best:
A work of art is a message to the world, about the world, from the world.
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