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Mar 1, 2017 16:17:17   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
xptom wrote:
The only problem I have found using this method is that it makes your photo up side down!


It is universally understood that under these conditions you are supposed to stand on your head.

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Mar 1, 2017 16:36:54   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Quantus5 wrote:
Very cool tripod! Didn't realize that there were some tripods where the legs could go completely flat. I did a quick search, doesn't seem like this model is made anymore, and did a quick search and saw one on sale used for $460, so a bit out of my price range :-( For now I think I will stick to the reversible column (which works completely fine, once you get used to it) and will also try the frying pan idea and the Bogen super clamp idea.

I like the macro rigs that a few people pointed out -- and might go there if I ever really get into macro photography.
Very cool tripod! Didn't realize that there were s... (show quote)


Like all Gitzo equipment, expensive. I saw a couple completed (sold) G2227's on ebay. They were sold at up to $300. Yes, it may be discontinued. I wonder why, it is not old being Carbon Fiber? My two Gitzos are vintage aluminum models from the Eighties.

Not totally flat but really low with a short column raised. Is this low enough? With an even shorter column one could get even lower. A different head might get one lower yet. Gitzo has many interchangeable and optional components to set up almost any "tripod" imaginable. In normal raised position one could also attach a head to the bottom of the column as well. Side-arms and L-adapters can help with that. I often shoot flat copy or macro using a 90 degree side-arm and weighting down the arm with bean bags.

Gitzo with two legs in low position and one in 90 degree
Gitzo with two legs in low position and one in 90 ...
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Mar 1, 2017 16:49:43   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Here is a link to my travel tripod (B&H sold them for almost $600 before they were discontinued. I won mine)

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/903226-REG/3_Legged_Thing_3lteddieblack_3LT_X2_1_Eddie_AH2_Kit.html

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Mar 1, 2017 16:56:15   #
Quantus5
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Like all Gitzo equipment, expensive. I saw a couple completed (sold) G2227's on ebay. They were sold at up to $300. Yes, it may be discontinued. I wonder why, it is not old being Carbon Fiber? My two Gitzos are vintage aluminum models from the Eighties.

Not totally flat but really low with a short column raised. Is this low enough? With an even shorter column one could get even lower. A different head might get one lower yet. Gitzo has many interchangeable and optional components to set up almost any "tripod" imaginable. In normal raised position one could also attach a head to the bottom of the column as well. Side-arms and L-adapters can help with that. I often shoot flat copy or macro using a 90 degree side-arm and weighting down the arm with bean bags.
Like all Gitzo equipment, expensive. I saw a coup... (show quote)


Yes -- this is pretty low. I can see that with a super short column how this tripod lays flat, and is only limited by the height of the tripod head. Very cool!

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Mar 1, 2017 17:20:44   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
imagemeister wrote:
MY version - simpler and cheaper ! - http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-390606-1.html

Having a right angle adapter on your center post or an articulating centerpost can be very advantageous for low angle work - just make sure you use a counter weight if necessary for stability.


I've been using this for around 20 years. Sometimes I put a gimbal head on it. The two piece of Velcro are for the pouches holding batteries and FILM. The sides are high for pushing it ahead when crawling it wet sand and mud. To get lower I flip the ball to the side.




http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-355991-1.html



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Mar 1, 2017 17:27:14   #
Quantus5
 
Bill_de wrote:
I've been using this for around 20 years. Sometimes I put a gimbal head on it. The two piece of Velcro are for the pouches holding batteries and FILM. The sides are high for pushing it ahead when crawling it wet sand and mud. To get lower I flip the ball to the side.




http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-355991-1.html



Awesome!! Man, I really want to build one of these now. :-)

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Mar 1, 2017 17:27:18   #
Toad Rancher Loc: Central PA Mts.
 
I have a tripod that I actually bought at K Mart back when they had a "photography dept" that has a 1/4-20 stud on the bottom end of the column. I have used it on occasion for macro shots.

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Mar 1, 2017 17:31:13   #
aflundi Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
aflundi wrote:
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Do the reversible column trick with a gimbal head attached. You would have the camera upright and could position it in any orientation and any position right down to touching the ground, easily. And since the weight would be placed low, it would be intrinsically stable.
[ ... ] I'll be trying it as soon as I can get back to my equipment. [ ... ]


Ok, I've tried a reversed gimbal. Apparently no one else was as taken by the idea as I was, but FYI, it works great with no sign of bearing problems with the Nest gimbal. Adjust the height by adjusting leg length/angle and/or column position, and if the camera is balanced, just point it to the desired orientation (otherwise point and tighten gimbal lock).



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Mar 1, 2017 17:32:02   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
These kind of remind me of the new Platypod tripods plates except they are much bigger & bulkier. I'd imagine a pain to transport as well..... I got the smaller Platypod recently...
https://www.platypodpro.com/

Bill_de wrote:
I've been using this for around 20 years. Sometimes I put a gimbal head on it. The two piece of Velcro are for the pouches holding batteries and FILM. The sides are high for pushing it ahead when crawling it wet sand and mud. To get lower I flip the ball to the side.




http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-355991-1.html

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Mar 1, 2017 17:46:42   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
All of those options are fine if that's what works for you. I have two tripods without any center column; both get me within MWD which gets me to 1:1..... Both maintain stability.

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Mar 1, 2017 19:12:23   #
EoS_User Loc: Oshawa, Ontario Canada
 
My tripod has reversible feature but, I've not employed it to date. If I do then I will mount my camera and lens to it via the lens' tripod ring. This way the camera can be rotated in the lens ring to keep everything right way up. Also, as mentioned by another, insects aren't likely to wait around while you're getting this stuff set up. They get bored easily and run away to find something more exciting.


Quantus5 wrote:
I'm taking an advanced photography class and the instructor has demonstrated twice the use of tripods. When he demonstrated getting the legs at extreme angles to get the camera low to the ground, I made a comment that most tripods have reversible columns as a feature and you can use this feature to get the camera right off the ground if you wish (instead of the 7-10 inches off the ground with the angled feet method.

The instructor became quite "heated" with me for mentioning this, and said that the reversible column method was useless, and just a marketing gimmick from tripod vendors.

I've shot using the reversible column method with the camera upside down and I like it. I can get the lens literally right off the ground. Sure, it's a little bit of a pain to use the screen on the camera with the camera upside down, but I think it's a small price to pay (and by careful positioning of the tripod legs, I can easily work around the tripod legs casting shadows issue).

Was wondering what other people thought? I do agree it is a bit harder to shoot this way. Do people use the reversible column feature of their tripods? Is this a gimmick or a useful feature?
I'm taking an advanced photography class and the i... (show quote)

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Mar 1, 2017 20:50:24   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
One of the men in my group uses a monopod to get close to the ground. He is elderly and had hip problems, so just sitting on the ground did not work very well (especially the getting up part).

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Mar 1, 2017 21:11:44   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
EoS_User wrote:
My tripod has reversible feature but, I've not employed it to date. If I do then I will mount my camera and lens to it via the lens' tripod ring. This way the camera can be rotated in the lens ring to keep everything right way up. Also, as mentioned by another, insects aren't likely to wait around while you're getting this stuff set up. They get bored easily and run away to find something more exciting.

And this is where you eschew the tripod and go with a camera+macro lens+flash with diffusion.

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Mar 1, 2017 21:46:36   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
These kind of remind me of the new Platypod tripods plates except they are much bigger & bulkier. I'd imagine a pain to transport as well..... I got the smaller Platypod recently...
https://www.platypodpro.com/


I don't think the little one with the spikes would work well pushing it through the mud or sand. For setting in a spot you can walk up to it looks great. For transport the ball head with the camera are on the tripod over my shoulder. The plate slides into a backpack.

There are so many things that work for what we each need to do, as long as we take the time to think about it.

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Mar 1, 2017 21:58:06   #
kd5jbk
 
The bottom line is that the best tripod is the one that allows you to get the shot you're after. Regular tripod,reversible center column,piece of wood and a bolt,pile of rocks... Just because HE doesn't use a pod with a reversible column doesn't mean they are useless and a gimmick. Your style of photography might be the polar opposite of his. Who knows maybe you could capture a stunning landscape from a totally unique perspective with the camera just inches off the ground. To bad that he suffers from rectal cranial inversion. If it works, it works.

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