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Jun 13, 2012 12:16:33   #
Starr Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
EKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!

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Jun 13, 2012 12:39:48   #
angler Loc: StHelens England
 
Very good shots,your a brave photographer.

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Jun 13, 2012 15:32:34   #
GetulaHunter
 
Jolly Roger wrote:
Brilliant set. Just curious how close/far you are taking these from? :thumbup: :thumbup:


Thank you!
The lens I use for most of these shots is the kit lens 18-55 the only telephoto lens I have is the 75-300 and I don't like it much. I do use a 105 sigma at times.

I don't have to many photos of me taking photos :?

I use a inexpensive camera and an inexpensive lens.
With gas prices the way they are and the miles between different species most of my money is wasted on my inexpensive vehicle.
:-(

Typical photo position.
Typical photo position....

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Jun 13, 2012 15:52:54   #
GetulaHunter
 
MagicFad wrote:
GetulaHunter wrote:
Hots!

3rd photo is not a Cottonmouth, at that size they are a very dark brown. That snake would probable be a Canebrake Rattler, either way both can be deadly.



Number 3 is most definitely a Cottonmouth (Agkistrodon piscivorus)
A very pretty one i might add.

The polymorphism in this species is amazing. With that being said there are many other species that are way more polymorphic then the Cottonmouth. Color is only a SMALL tool used in the identification of most snake species.

Full sized photo of that same snake
Full sized photo of that same snake...

This is a Canebrake I found in FL. as well
This is a Canebrake I found in FL. as well...

Canebreak Rattlesnake Ocala National Forrest Florida
Canebreak Rattlesnake Ocala National Forrest  Flor...

Here is one of the dark ones you are talking about. This one I found in Tennessee
Here is one of the dark ones you are talking about...

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Jun 13, 2012 16:02:43   #
MagicFad Loc: Clermont, FL
 
GetulaHunter wrote:
MagicFad wrote:
GetulaHunter wrote:
Hots!

3rd photo is not a Cottonmouth, at that size they are a very dark brown. That snake would probable be a Canebrake Rattler, either way both can be deadly.



Number 3 is most definitely a Cottonmouth (Agkistrodon piscivorus)
A very pretty one i might add.

The polymorphism in this species is amazing. With that being said there are many other species that are way more polymorphic then the Cottonmouth. Color is only a SMALL tool used in the identification of most snake species.
quote=MagicFad quote=GetulaHunter Hots! /quote ... (show quote)


My apologies, seeing the full size picture makes a difference. The snake appeared MUCH more honey colored in the original posting. I can see by the current photo that it could indeed be a Moccasin

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Jun 13, 2012 16:49:40   #
GetulaHunter
 
Toby wrote:
Excellent pics, didn't realize that there were that many poisonous snakes in the US


Thank you!
There are only four different species of poisonous snakes in North America. The Rattlesnake, Cottonmouth or Water Moccasin, Copperhead and Coral Snake.

But there are many subspecies in those categories.

Rattlesnakes:
Crotalus adamanteus, Eastern diamondback rattlesnake
Crotalus atrox, Western diamondback rattlesnake
Crotalus catalinensis, Catalina Island rattlesnake
Crotalus cerastes, Sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes cerastes, Mojave desert sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes cercobombus, Sonoran sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes laterorepens, Colorado desert sidewinder
Crotalus horridus, Timber rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus, Rock rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus klauberi, Banded rock rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus lepidus, Mottled rock rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii, Speckled rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii pyrrhus, Southwestern speckled rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii stephensi, Panamint rattlesnake
Crotalus molossus, Black-tailed rattlesnake
Crotalus molossus molossus, Northern black-tailed rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus, Western rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus abyssus, Grand Canyon rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus cerberus, Arizona black rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus concolor, Midget faded rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus helleri, Southern Pacific rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus lutosus, Great Basin rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus oreganus, Northern Pacific rattlesnake
Crotalus pricei, Twin-spotted rattlesnake
Crotalus pricei pricei, Western twin spotted rattlesnake
Crotalus ruber, Red diamond rattlesnake
Crotalus ruber ruber, Red diamond rattlesnake
Crotalus scutulatus, Mojave rattlesnake
Crotalus scutulatus scutulatus, Mojave rattlesnake
Crotalus tigris, Tiger rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis, Prairie rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis nuntius, Hopi rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis viridis, Prairie rattlesnake
Crotalus willardi, Ridge-nosed rattlesnake
Crotalus willardi willardi, Arizona ridge-nosed rattlesnake

Copperheads:
Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix, Southern copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix laticinctus, Broad-banded copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix mokasen, Northern copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix phaeogaster, Osage copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix pictigaster, Trans-pecos copperhead

Cottonmouth:
Agkistrodon piscivorus conanti, Florida cottonmouth
Agkistrodon piscivorus leucostoma, Western cottonmouth
Agkistrodon piscivorus piscivorus, Eastern cottonmouth

Coralsnake:
Micruroides euryxanthus euryxanthus - Arizona Coralsnake
Micrurus fulvius fulvius- Eastern Coral Snake

I may have missed a couple but this is as complete as my brain wants to think right now :? :?

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Jun 13, 2012 21:22:35   #
EarthArts Loc: Schenectady,NY
 
GetulaHunter wrote:
Toby wrote:
Excellent pics, didn't realize that there were that many poisonous snakes in the US


Thank you!
There are only four different species of poisonous snakes in North America. The Rattlesnake, Cottonmouth or Water Moccasin, Copperhead and Coral Snake.

But there are many subspecies in those categories.

Rattlesnakes:
Crotalus adamanteus, Eastern diamondback rattlesnake
Crotalus atrox, Western diamondback rattlesnake
Crotalus catalinensis, Catalina Island rattlesnake
Crotalus cerastes, Sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes cerastes, Mojave desert sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes cercobombus, Sonoran sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes laterorepens, Colorado desert sidewinder
Crotalus horridus, Timber rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus, Rock rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus klauberi, Banded rock rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus lepidus, Mottled rock rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii, Speckled rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii pyrrhus, Southwestern speckled rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii stephensi, Panamint rattlesnake
Crotalus molossus, Black-tailed rattlesnake
Crotalus molossus molossus, Northern black-tailed rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus, Western rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus abyssus, Grand Canyon rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus cerberus, Arizona black rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus concolor, Midget faded rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus helleri, Southern Pacific rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus lutosus, Great Basin rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus oreganus, Northern Pacific rattlesnake
Crotalus pricei, Twin-spotted rattlesnake
Crotalus pricei pricei, Western twin spotted rattlesnake
Crotalus ruber, Red diamond rattlesnake
Crotalus ruber ruber, Red diamond rattlesnake
Crotalus scutulatus, Mojave rattlesnake
Crotalus scutulatus scutulatus, Mojave rattlesnake
Crotalus tigris, Tiger rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis, Prairie rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis nuntius, Hopi rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis viridis, Prairie rattlesnake
Crotalus willardi, Ridge-nosed rattlesnake
Crotalus willardi willardi, Arizona ridge-nosed rattlesnake

Copperheads:
Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix, Southern copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix laticinctus, Broad-banded copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix mokasen, Northern copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix phaeogaster, Osage copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix pictigaster, Trans-pecos copperhead

Cottonmouth:
Agkistrodon piscivorus conanti, Florida cottonmouth
Agkistrodon piscivorus leucostoma, Western cottonmouth
Agkistrodon piscivorus piscivorus, Eastern cottonmouth

Coralsnake:
Micruroides euryxanthus euryxanthus - Arizona Coralsnake
Micrurus fulvius fulvius- Eastern Coral Snake

I may have missed a couple but this is as complete as my brain wants to think right now :? :?
quote=Toby Excellent pics, didn't realize that th... (show quote)



Impressive collection of snake photos. You are very good at it. Have you ever been bitten or chased by one of your intended subjects ?

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Jun 13, 2012 21:43:22   #
Johnny U Loc: Fredericksburg Va.
 
GetulaHunter wrote:
Hots!


I don't like snakes but your photos show the amazing variety of scale markings on venemous snakes and would make good photos for an Audabond field manual.

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Jun 13, 2012 23:48:56   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
Very cool. You know your rattlesnakes.

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Jun 14, 2012 06:39:53   #
MagicFad Loc: Clermont, FL
 
GetulaHunter wrote:
Toby wrote:
Excellent pics, didn't realize that there were that many poisonous snakes in the US


Thank you!
There are only four different species of poisonous snakes in North America. The Rattlesnake, Cottonmouth or Water Moccasin, Copperhead and Coral Snake.

But there are many subspecies in those categories.

Rattlesnakes:
Crotalus adamanteus, Eastern diamondback rattlesnake
Crotalus atrox, Western diamondback rattlesnake
Crotalus catalinensis, Catalina Island rattlesnake
Crotalus cerastes, Sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes cerastes, Mojave desert sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes cercobombus, Sonoran sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes laterorepens, Colorado desert sidewinder
Crotalus horridus, Timber rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus, Rock rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus klauberi, Banded rock rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus lepidus, Mottled rock rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii, Speckled rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii pyrrhus, Southwestern speckled rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii stephensi, Panamint rattlesnake
Crotalus molossus, Black-tailed rattlesnake
Crotalus molossus molossus, Northern black-tailed rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus, Western rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus abyssus, Grand Canyon rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus cerberus, Arizona black rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus concolor, Midget faded rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus helleri, Southern Pacific rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus lutosus, Great Basin rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus oreganus, Northern Pacific rattlesnake
Crotalus pricei, Twin-spotted rattlesnake
Crotalus pricei pricei, Western twin spotted rattlesnake
Crotalus ruber, Red diamond rattlesnake
Crotalus ruber ruber, Red diamond rattlesnake
Crotalus scutulatus, Mojave rattlesnake
Crotalus scutulatus scutulatus, Mojave rattlesnake
Crotalus tigris, Tiger rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis, Prairie rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis nuntius, Hopi rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis viridis, Prairie rattlesnake
Crotalus willardi, Ridge-nosed rattlesnake
Crotalus willardi willardi, Arizona ridge-nosed rattlesnake

Copperheads:
Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix, Southern copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix laticinctus, Broad-banded copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix mokasen, Northern copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix phaeogaster, Osage copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix pictigaster, Trans-pecos copperhead

Cottonmouth:
Agkistrodon piscivorus conanti, Florida cottonmouth
Agkistrodon piscivorus leucostoma, Western cottonmouth
Agkistrodon piscivorus piscivorus, Eastern cottonmouth

Coralsnake:
Micruroides euryxanthus euryxanthus - Arizona Coralsnake
Micrurus fulvius fulvius- Eastern Coral Snake

I may have missed a couple but this is as complete as my brain wants to think right now :? :?
quote=Toby Excellent pics, didn't realize that th... (show quote)


They are venomous, not poisonous, you can drink venom and be ok, you cannot do the same to poison.

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Jun 14, 2012 09:28:50   #
Jolly Roger Loc: Dorset. UK
 
GetulaHunter wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
Brilliant set. Just curious how close/far you are taking these from? :thumbup: :thumbup:


Thank you!
The lens I use for most of these shots is the kit lens 18-55 the only telephoto lens I have is the 75-300 and I don't like it much. I do use a 105 sigma at times.

I don't have to many photos of me taking photos :?

I use a inexpensive camera and an inexpensive lens.
With gas prices the way they are and the miles between different species most of my money is wasted on my inexpensive vehicle.
:-(
quote=Jolly Roger Brilliant set. Just curious how... (show quote)

You are a braver man than me.

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Jun 14, 2012 12:42:09   #
Toby
 
I have heard but not seen a Missasaga rattler that is supposed to be found in northern Ohio. Obviously it is not very densely populated.

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Jun 14, 2012 17:24:14   #
GetulaHunter
 
MagicFad wrote:
GetulaHunter wrote:
Toby wrote:
Excellent pics, didn't realize that there were that many poisonous snakes in the US


Thank you!
There are only four different species of poisonous snakes in North America. The Rattlesnake, Cottonmouth or Water Moccasin, Copperhead and Coral Snake.

But there are many subspecies in those categories.

Rattlesnakes:
Crotalus adamanteus, Eastern diamondback rattlesnake
Crotalus atrox, Western diamondback rattlesnake
Crotalus catalinensis, Catalina Island rattlesnake
Crotalus cerastes, Sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes cerastes, Mojave desert sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes cercobombus, Sonoran sidewinder
Crotalus cerastes laterorepens, Colorado desert sidewinder
Crotalus horridus, Timber rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus, Rock rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus klauberi, Banded rock rattlesnake
Crotalus lepidus lepidus, Mottled rock rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii, Speckled rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii pyrrhus, Southwestern speckled rattlesnake
Crotalus mitchellii stephensi, Panamint rattlesnake
Crotalus molossus, Black-tailed rattlesnake
Crotalus molossus molossus, Northern black-tailed rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus, Western rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus abyssus, Grand Canyon rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus cerberus, Arizona black rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus concolor, Midget faded rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus helleri, Southern Pacific rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus lutosus, Great Basin rattlesnake
Crotalus oreganus oreganus, Northern Pacific rattlesnake
Crotalus pricei, Twin-spotted rattlesnake
Crotalus pricei pricei, Western twin spotted rattlesnake
Crotalus ruber, Red diamond rattlesnake
Crotalus ruber ruber, Red diamond rattlesnake
Crotalus scutulatus, Mojave rattlesnake
Crotalus scutulatus scutulatus, Mojave rattlesnake
Crotalus tigris, Tiger rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis, Prairie rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis nuntius, Hopi rattlesnake
Crotalus viridis viridis, Prairie rattlesnake
Crotalus willardi, Ridge-nosed rattlesnake
Crotalus willardi willardi, Arizona ridge-nosed rattlesnake

Copperheads:
Agkistrodon contortrix contortrix, Southern copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix laticinctus, Broad-banded copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix mokasen, Northern copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix phaeogaster, Osage copperhead
Agkistrodon contortrix pictigaster, Trans-pecos copperhead

Cottonmouth:
Agkistrodon piscivorus conanti, Florida cottonmouth
Agkistrodon piscivorus leucostoma, Western cottonmouth
Agkistrodon piscivorus piscivorus, Eastern cottonmouth

Coralsnake:
Micruroides euryxanthus euryxanthus - Arizona Coralsnake
Micrurus fulvius fulvius- Eastern Coral Snake

I may have missed a couple but this is as complete as my brain wants to think right now :? :?
quote=Toby Excellent pics, didn't realize that th... (show quote)


They are venomous, not poisonous, you can drink venom and be ok, you cannot do the same to poison.
quote=GetulaHunter quote=Toby Excellent pics, di... (show quote)


You are very right....... My typo, how moronic of me. I have given many snake presentations and that has been one of my favorite topics. Venom vs Poison ........ My bad.
Thank you!!

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Jun 14, 2012 17:30:28   #
GetulaHunter
 
Toby wrote:
I have heard but not seen a Missasaga rattler that is supposed to be found in northern Ohio. Obviously it is not very densely populated.


Thank you!!
See I knew I would miss a few. Even one I posted a photo of. :?


Sistrurus catenatus catenatus, Eastern massasauga
Sistrurus catenatus edwardsii, Desert massasauga
Sistrurus catenatus tergeminus, Western massasauga

Sistrurus miliarius barbouri, Dusky pigmy rattlesnake
Sistrurus miliarius miliarius, Carolina pigmy rattlesnake
Sistrurus miliarius streckeri, Western pigmy rattlesnake

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Jun 14, 2012 17:43:40   #
GetulaHunter
 
Jolly Roger wrote:
GetulaHunter wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote:
Brilliant set. Just curious how close/far you are taking these from? :thumbup: :thumbup:


Thank you!
The lens I use for most of these shots is the kit lens 18-55 the only telephoto lens I have is the 75-300 and I don't like it much. I do use a 105 sigma at times.

I don't have to many photos of me taking photos :?

I use a inexpensive camera and an inexpensive lens.
With gas prices the way they are and the miles between different species most of my money is wasted on my inexpensive vehicle.
:-(
quote=Jolly Roger Brilliant set. Just curious how... (show quote)

You are a braver man than me.
quote=GetulaHunter quote=Jolly Roger Brilliant s... (show quote)


Thank you!
Ya but you ought to see me near a cliff ......on all fours 10 feet away from the edge.
My 13 yr old nephew plays baseball, he stands right next to the plate when another teen chucks a hard object inches from his body and never flinches....... When someone fake throws something at me I duck.

I have two awesome sons....My wife agreed to get pregnant not once but twice.....holy crap TWICE ....NO way dude.....Now that's brave! :shock: :shock: :shock:

So I bet you do something that I think....."No way not me, that dudes brave"

J.P.

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