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Jun 13, 2012 00:11:30   #
northshore Loc: St. Paul, MN
 
nikonshooter wrote:
wevans410 wrote:
Nikon Shooter - that's amazing, you captured the sky just as it was! No, but that looks really good.
I've attached the original picture. Next I will try mirror lock-up and adjusting the shutter speed, but the above picture (NikonShooter's) looks pretty good to me. Thanks!


I had more pixels to work with and the high pass filter was able to add some normal looking sharpening to the bird but it played havoc with the limbs (halo). I also blended some of the sky's color to the bird. You can see the effect of sharpening on the bark and hawks feet
quote=wevans410 Nikon Shooter - that's amazing, y... (show quote)


One small problem-- the sun is setting behind the hawk while shining on his breast...

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Jun 13, 2012 01:17:16   #
Neville Loc: Melbourne Australia
 
Most canon users of tele-converters will tell you that 1.4x is the better option and will never be as sharp as a more expensive long focus prime lenses. there are plenty of reviews of equipment. also the viewfinder diopter adjustment needs checking now then if you are wearing glasses.

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Jun 13, 2012 01:27:35   #
Chet Loc: Louisville, KY
 
wevans410 wrote:
I shot this picture of a Red Tailed Hawk from about 150 yds. I used Manual focus looking through the view finder, but didn't get it as sharp as I thought it should be. Any suggestions?
I'm using an AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 with a 2x teleconverter on a tripod with remote release. Do I just need new glasses or am I expecting too much at that distance?


My attempt at sharpening.



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Jun 13, 2012 01:28:13   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
Much better!

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Jun 13, 2012 01:57:57   #
wevans410 Loc: Simi Valley CA
 
That looks much better. Mind sharing how you did it? That's the picture using the teleconverter.

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Jun 13, 2012 04:15:34   #
Mickey Oberman Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
Splendid photo.

I think the catchlight in the eye is a most important element for giving life to the picture and more apparent sharpness than there may actually be.

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Jun 13, 2012 10:32:25   #
nikonshooter Loc: Spartanburg, South Carolina
 
northshore wrote:
nikonshooter wrote:
wevans410 wrote:
Nikon Shooter - that's amazing, you captured the sky just as it was! No, but that looks really good.
I've attached the original picture. Next I will try mirror lock-up and adjusting the shutter speed, but the above picture (NikonShooter's) looks pretty good to me. Thanks!


I had more pixels to work with and the high pass filter was able to add some normal looking sharpening to the bird but it played havoc with the limbs (halo). I also blended some of the sky's color to the bird. You can see the effect of sharpening on the bark and hawks feet
quote=wevans410 Nikon Shooter - that's amazing, y... (show quote)


One small problem-- the sun is setting behind the hawk while shining on his breast...
quote=nikonshooter quote=wevans410 Nikon Shooter... (show quote)



We added bounce - no problem - and the bird didn't mind.

No kidding, there a lot of problems with the image - no argument on my end

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Jun 13, 2012 10:35:01   #
nikonshooter Loc: Spartanburg, South Carolina
 
Mickey Oberman wrote:
Splendid photo.

I think the catchlight in the eye is a most important element for giving life to the picture and more apparent sharpness than there may actually be.


I totally agree with you. Often, if the eye is tack sharp, the rest of the image can be off and the image can still pop.

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Jun 13, 2012 10:36:02   #
nikonshooter Loc: Spartanburg, South Carolina
 
wevans410 wrote:
That looks much better. Mind sharing how you did it? That's the picture using the teleconverter.


Can you put this image (original) image up to download.

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Jun 13, 2012 11:11:57   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
This made with a D300, Nikon 80-400 lens at 400mm with a Kenko 2x teleconverter. F5.6 @ 320th sec., ISO 400. Distance 356 feet (I measured with a hunter's range finder) about 9:30AM



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Jun 13, 2012 11:52:26   #
nikonshooter Loc: Spartanburg, South Carolina
 
nikonshooter wrote:
wevans410 wrote:
That looks much better. Mind sharing how you did it? That's the picture using the teleconverter.


Can you put this image (original) image up to download.


Another sky, saturation and high pass sharpening - also removed one branch that looked like it was growing out of the hawk

This bird is getting alot of attention
This bird is getting alot of attention...

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Jun 13, 2012 14:03:11   #
Mickey Oberman Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
It just keeps getting better and better.

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Jun 13, 2012 14:29:43   #
wevans410 Loc: Simi Valley CA
 
Cool! Here's the original 1st picture. It's come a long way!

For Nikonian72 - I ordered Nikon extender and the Hoodman Hoodloupe. I also tried your Manual focus procedure, but still need to work on that.

Did some tests last night with my other extender. Looking at 1/8" print at 30 yards (measured). The extender was not as sharp at the plain lens (Nikon 70-200mm F/2.8) and a cropped picture.



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Jun 13, 2012 18:29:19   #
Chet Loc: Louisville, KY
 
wevans410 wrote:
That looks much better. Mind sharing how you did it? That's the picture using the teleconverter.


Used the free program Faststone. It is a great program for viewing and comparing photos plus some editing.

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Jun 15, 2012 20:24:26   #
photoninja1 Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Good focus at that distance with a doubler in the system is problematic. On a static subject you can use manual focus, tuned up by an exploded view of the live view screen or a loupe. For a "fly away" subject you did what I'd do; you took your best autofocus shot. Time permitting you could go back and try to improve the result with the manual method. That said, this is still a keeper. It just needs a tune up. Here is the result of a quick (30 second) application of detail boosting and sharpening in PS5...not the best that could be done, but for 30 seconds, what the heck!



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