whitewolfowner

And the corporate extortion continues.

lemontart Loc: uk

invest in a standalone cd player for your computer, as you will be suprised how often you find you still need it. My other half bought a new dell last year opting for no cd slot to save a few £ - cost him more in long run as found he needed it.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

True, the software is always resident on your computer, and always runs locally. Adobe apps "phone home" over the Internet once a month to make sure you are paying your bill.

However, your images *can be* in the cloud if you want them there. When you install the software, Adobe throws up a dialog box asking you to configure it that way. Many graphic design professionals share them that way. It is slow, clunky, and frustrating to work that way, but you can. Or, you can do like I do, 99% of the time, and store/access them only locally. I hate to wait for access... My wife, on the other hand, uses the whole Adobe CC suite. She shares images and graphics with a design team in Sweden. Her files must be in the cloud. She is at the mercy of the Internet...

retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Yes, you can still find pirated versions of anything on the web. But Adobe learned from the iTunes/App Store model... If you make it an inexpensive purchase, people will buy it, even if they pay in perpetuity. I find it to be a lot easier than shelling out $700 for a new seat of Photoshop, or $399 every time they do a major upgrade. They were upgrading every 18-24 months at one point, and that was expensive! That's why a lot of folks skipped whole versions (or two or three).

The cool thing about the Internet for content providers is that there are minimal costs of distribution. The files go on a server, and people pay to access them. It costs a few cents per copy after the first one — the development costs — are paid for. No CD, no manual, no package, no shipping costs, no dealer markup...

Now, it takes close to six years to equal $700 we used to shell out for a new license. In three years, you pay $360 and get all the updates and upgrades that occur along the way. That is close to the cost of previous upgrade CDs. So it is not a bad deal. It's an especially good deal for corporate users with lots of seats... It reduces cash flow when you need new seats, and eliminates the upgrade pain.

RichieC Loc: Adirondacks

Then don't pay it by the month... Pay it all up front!! I am frankly always flummoxed at what is so obvious to me... --This is exactly what buying a standalone program is doing. Maybe if all you use is lightrooom- but I personally can't imagine that.

Follow me. For photoshop and lightroom, you'd pay about $150 for LR and in previous years Photoshop CS6 was what $500?? at least. ( you can get them cheaper- but they are old now) At $10 a month, you'd get 65 months worth of ($650/$10 = 65 month's. Except- the program would have been updated how many times in that period? After 5 years, you'd have 2 worthless old tired programs that you'd want to, or have to replace entirely-especially if you have upgraded your computer in that time, or your camera...etc..

What do you get with CC??? at the end of 65 months you have the same out of pocket expenses... except you have most up-to-date advanced-current version of photoshop and lightroom available. Frankly- its a freakin' awesome deal! Show me where i can pay for my computer monthly, have it constantly upgraded, so when i get to the+/- $4g's period point at the same low rate as LR/PS, and i'd have the latest greatest computer... and not a paperweight to recycle- and I'd sign up today!.

FYI: Prices for PhotoShop in 2010 ( I use the extended suite- have purchased photoshop programs since early 90's.. 2.0 - there have been 20 releases- not all of which i purchased)

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/12/photoshop.first.look.wired/index.html
Prices for the suite range between $1,300 and $2,600 depending on which package you buy, with upgrades priced between $500 and $1,500. Photoshop CS5 alone will cost $700, or $200 for an upgrade. Photoshop CS5 Extended, which has some additional tools, will cost $1,000, or $350 for an upgrade.

retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey

Two suggestions, questions and comments:
1- Do not presume to know why Adobe went to the cloud model. Are you that all knowing?
2- Do not ASSume that most people are thieves stealing and pirating software. Is this knowledge based on your personal behavior?

As one who pays for software, hardware and everything else; I strongly resent your high and mighty generalizations. You are insulting without basis!

dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

I agree. Everybody hears the word "cloud" and assume that the software lives in the internet. That's not true. Its simply a device so that you don't have to wait to get the software from some store, in order to install it. Yes, the software is $9.99 per month but it is constantly kept up to date and upgraded. In addition, you not only get Lightroom but also Photoshop, Adobe Bridge, and Camera RAW CC for that $9.99. And, should you want the entire Adobe works, it would cost you $49.99 per month. Also, the software resides on your hard drive as do all of your files. The cloud is just to verify your subscription and also give you the ability (if you choose) to share your images with other employees or between multiple computers. By the way, for that monthly fee, you can have the "cloud" installed on as many computers as you want as long as you are only logged into the cloud on 2 computers at any one time. I have it on my main computer, the wife's computer and 2 laptops. When we travel, we log out of the 2 Adobe aps at home and into them on the laptops. When we return, we log out of the aps on the laptops and in at home. It works great. Nothing, aps or images are on the cloud unless you want them to be. Adobe also gives you 2 gb of storage with your minimum account and you can (of course) upgrade from there for a fee.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Computers no longer come with optical disk drives. Software is sold, downloaded, and upgraded from the Internet.

Forget owning a box, manual, and CD. You never did! You just thought you did. But what you bought was a *license*. And you still do. It's just delivered differently.

Just subscribe to the $10/month Adobe CC Lightroom and Photoshop bundle. Configure it to store your images locally.

PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA

I saw that Photoshop CS6 individual software was no longer offered but didn't see Lightroom included with that announcement. Can you tell me where you saw it ? There actually is no 'cloud' version for Lightroom as most people interpret cloud applications - the software is downloaded to your PC and runs from your PC. Updates are automatically processed and ownership is periodically validated through the cloud but all the processing of your photos is done locally on your PC. If true for Lightroom, looks Like I may be using Lightroom 6 for a long time to come !

JeffR Loc: Rehoboth Beach, Delaware

The last time I was on their site looking for the discounted upgrade from LR5 to LR6 I couldn't find it anywhere. I finally got into a chat session with a salesperson and she gave me a link. I suspect that is now the only way to find the stand-alone upgrade.

Girl with A Canon Loc: Myrtle Beach,SC

Thank you I will do that. As I am a none smoker and none drinker $10 per month is nothing compared to them.

fetzler Loc: North West PA

I know what you mean. I started to use Corel products like After Shot. They are not bad but PS has a few things that are occasionally (for me) useful. Capture one pro seems excellent as well but I have not used. I still use office 2007 because I don't want the monthly fee.

nytexano

Yes, that's the link. It takes some time navigating to where it sits. Adobe makes it difficult to find to discourage those who reject the idea of being digital serfs.

Phaseone, who produces Capture One Pro, offers an outright license purchase OR a subscription, depending on the user's preference.
https://www.phaseone.com/en/Products/Software/Capture-One-Pro/Highlights.aspx?gclid=CjwKEAiAq8bEBRDuuOuyspf5oyMSJAAcsEyW3Ah4sCbvYiqbmbmtM8id05WL19Ljpy6jWbr6bFchtxoCqVDw_wcB

This is a Danish company so their approach takes their user base into consideration rather than dictating the terms most favorable for themselves as Adobe does. Capture One has a learning curve, but it also has the most versatile RAW processor on the planet. I use both programs, and have processed the same file in Lightroom AND in Capture One. The difference is visible without magnification.

I still prefer Lightroom's interface, but that is likely due more to familiarity than utility.

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

I always enjoy your comments.😀😊