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Jun 12, 2012 07:55:57   #
Skutterbug Loc: Central Florida
 
I try these shots from long distances and get the same results...even worse with teleconverter... :( :( :( So many $10,000.00 lenses so little money :lol: :lol:

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Jun 12, 2012 08:01:49   #
les_stockton Loc: Eastern Oklahoma
 
Skutterbug wrote:
So many $10,000.00 lenses so little money :lol: :lol:


I'm president of the club.

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Jun 12, 2012 08:24:34   #
Audwulf Loc: Golden State
 
Hey Wayne, If you focus with the monitor, the Hoodman is a good idea. I had the problem focusing long range manually.(500-600 & 1000mm) I use a viewfinder. I sloved my problem with a Seagull viewfinder magnifier. $25 or so, on Ebay.

Seagull
Seagull...

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Jun 12, 2012 08:50:01   #
glojo Loc: South Devon, England
 
I have been following this thread with great interest and I concur fully with every word that has been said by is it rpavich.

You are suffering what most bird photographers go through. We are usually not well endowed when it comes to the size of our equipment!

Granted it might not be the size and it might be better use of what we have so if you cannot improve the size then it looks like this bird regularly goes to that tree. Have you tried getting closer? Much, much closer.

I am no fan of converters, never have been, but some folks get on with them, my thoughts on them however are that if you use them, then consider using the latest model and the dedicated converter for the camera. Nikon for Nikon.

On a different thread rpavich points out that a minuscule movement of your camera will equate to feet, or even yards at the location you are snapping. If you are not pointing EXACTLY at the bird and you are using spot focussing then you are up a gum tree.

If this wild bird is guaranteed to remain stationary for long enough for you to play with all the goodies on your camera then take advantage and consider using at least a monopod, tripod or even a natural, firm base.

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Jun 12, 2012 08:55:36   #
Jerry Green Loc: Huntsville, AL
 
wevans410 wrote:
I shot this picture of a Red Tailed Hawk from about 150 yds. I used Manual focus looking through the view finder, but didn't get it as sharp as I thought it should be. Any suggestions?
I'm using an AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 with a 2x teleconverter on a tripod with remote release. Do I just need new glasses or am I expecting too much at that distance?


Which version teleconverter lens are you using? The Nikon TC20E III teleconverter is a very good and much better than the TC20E II. I use TC20E III teleconverter the AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm VR II and shoot at least 1/400 sec at f/9 on a tripod, manually focus in live view zoomed in with a hoodman and get good results.

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Jun 12, 2012 09:02:18   #
Mickey Oberman Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
I have never found a teleconverter that gave me satisfactory results. I gave up on them long ago.
I understand there are some made for a specific lens that perform well.
I don't know who makes them. I assume the manufacturer of the lens.
If it is your eye and if that same tree or its stand in is still there (The Hawk can take five.) why not see if setting your focus manually to &#8734; improves the sharpness.
That is assuming the &#8734; is truly &#8734; and the lens is not off slightly

I know my eyes are not as trustworthy as they used to be. I find autofocus a boon now.

I also know that one of my lenses, when set at infinity focuses beyond infinity. My K-5 is always right on though.

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Jun 12, 2012 09:21:16   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
Jay Pat wrote:
1/60 shutter
f22
ISO 140
400mm
Don't know if would be better, I'd gone for a faster shutter and adjusted the f/stop to go work it. Maybe adjust the ISO a little, as well.
Pat
Snap Shot Guy


Pat, is that the EXIF data you got from the download? If so, I agree with what you say about the settings. I'd probably boost the ISO to about 400-600 and open the aperture to about f/16-f/11, and try to bring up the shutter speed. I'm probably off on my settings guess, but I agree that's the way to go.

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Jun 12, 2012 09:32:30   #
royalpar1
 
Perhaps faster shutter speed, or use a TriPod (if you didnt) i never liked the 2X and returned mine as i never got the tack sharp images i wanted

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Jun 12, 2012 09:33:54   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
Considering what you had to work with I think the photos looks rather nice.
At 450' with a 2x teleconvertor I think you did well.

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Jun 12, 2012 09:53:20   #
ryeend
 
I would try using a monopod, up your f stop to 5.6. This is considered getting closer to the sweet spot in your lens when using the teleconverter. At 2.8 it just isn't sharp while using the teleconverter.
Turn off your VR if it is on because it will try to compensate while using the monopod.
Try getting your shutter speed up to at least 1/500 of a second.
Compensate with your ISO and try AV mode.
Hopefully you have enough light.
Good Luck.
Or, a 400mm 2.8 will solve your problem.

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Jun 12, 2012 10:14:42   #
rodpark2 Loc: Dallas, Tx
 
wevans410 wrote:
I shot this picture of a Red Tailed Hawk from about 150 yds. I used Manual focus looking through the view finder, but didn't get it as sharp as I thought it should be. Any suggestions?
I'm using an AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 with a 2x teleconverter on a tripod with remote release. Do I just need new glasses or am I expecting too much at that distance?


There was no reason to use F22, you'd be better off with 4 or 5.6. The small aperture forced a slow shutter-speed. At that magnification you'd need 1/500 sec to get a good sharp hand held shot. F22 is actually not as sharp as wider open (defraction) and the depth of field is a non issue. Shoot close to wide open (2.8) and your results should be much better.

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Jun 12, 2012 10:23:53   #
Paradox Loc: Payson, Arizona
 
Thanks for a very interesting discussion with lots of possible reasons for the lack of sharpness and the listing possible remedies. Could the time of day and air temperature be a part of the problem? Would early in the morning with colder air with lack of heat waves help?

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Jun 12, 2012 10:34:19   #
Mickey Oberman Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
 
"Could the time of day and air temperature be a part of the problem? Would early in the morning with colder air with lack of heat waves help?"

Yes.

But don't eagles like warm rising air currents for effortless soaring?

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Jun 12, 2012 10:35:29   #
snoops
 
I am just learning but I have the 70-200VRf2.8 lens I have the same issu

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Jun 12, 2012 11:09:46   #
Weddingguy Loc: British Columbia - Canada
 
les_stockton wrote:
wevans410 wrote:
That is a great tip, I will try it thank you.
I went back tonight and tried the lens without the teleconverter. I think they actually came out better. I've only included one picture, but there any number that appeared sharper than with the teleconverter.


Interesting. My friend observed the same thing after leaving that off. I'm wondering if there is a good teleconverter that doesn't cause the loss of sharpness. I don't mind losing a stop or two, but sharpness is still important.
quote=wevans410 That is a great tip, I will try i... (show quote)


My understanding is that with Canon the 2x is inferior to the 1.4x in their teleconverters. Maybe the same with Nikon?

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