Alternative Facts May Be The End Of Trustworthy Government Data
Jan 23, 2017 13:33:47 #
Jan 23, 2017 13:34:47 #
Checkmate wrote:
'Remember you have to sign it before you read it'. Not ONE DemoCrap read it.
Sign what?
Jan 23, 2017 17:43:49 #
Keenan wrote:
A couple of observations: br br 1) This thread is... (show quote)
Okay, you asked for it. Here are some sources with evidence for the accusations of the Obama Administration faking data.
1. Fake unemployment reports to get him re-elected in 2013- http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/census-faked-2012-election-jobs-report/
2. Benghazi story. I don't feel compelled to offer any sources since this story has been debunked so thoroughly already.
3. Eric Holder and others lying to Congress - http://reason.com/blog/2012/06/15/definitive-proof-that-eric-holder-lied-t
4. Obama falsifying CIA reports on ISIS - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/intelligence-agents-obama-falsified-reports-regarding-jim-kouri
5. VA officials falsified data - http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/04/07/va-wait-time-manipulation-veterans/82726634/
6. Obama falsely claimed Iran was in Nuclear compliance - I had a hard time locating quote, but found this to be even worse - http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/264044/obama-faked-iran-nuclear-compliance-secret-daniel-greenfield
7. "You can keep you Doctor." - No need to verify - Everybody knows about this.
As I said before, you live in a bubble and I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't even aware of half this stuff. For that, I would not impugn you. But I have a high level of confidence that once you are aware, you will pretend this stuff never happened.
Jan 23, 2017 18:03:01 #
Steven Seward wrote:
Okay, you asked for it. Here are some sources wit... (show quote)
Hahahahahaha! Right off the bat, you cite a laughable (non-credible) source - the NY Post tabloid for your #1 claim that the unemployment report was faked to get Obama re-elected.
Obviously you do not understand the definition of "credible". The NY Post is a laughing stock of journalism - a right wing fringe supermarket tabloid which posts fake stories from "unnamed sources". I guess having you look up the definition of "credible" was a waste of time.
This silly article doesn't prove anything. It makes unproven accusations using anonymous sources. Please have someone explain to you why unproven accusations from anonymous sources don't mean shit. I'm not going to waste my time going through the rest of your silly, hysterical, fringe accusations that have no credible evidence because you obviously do not understand the definitions of either "credible" or "evidence".
I seem to remember we've had similar conversations like this in the past when you attempted to cite The National Enquirer as a source. Remember that? You still haven't learned anything about how to find credible sources yet, it appears.
http://www.trump-conservative.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/hillary-clinton-hitman-national-enquirer-story.jpg
http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/examiner-e1418400552338-636x700.jpg
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Jan 23, 2017 18:38:26 #
Keenan wrote:
Hahahahahaha! Right off the bat, you cite a laugha... (show quote)
I've noticed that you chose to address the one weak source in my links and choose to ignore all the rest, just as I said you would. I've got to go to work now, I'm done playing with my friends. Adios!
Jan 23, 2017 20:37:24 #
Steven Seward wrote:
Okay, you asked for it. Here are some sources wit... (show quote)
Frontpagemag.com. Get real:
On January 1, 2007, FrontPage Magazine named Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean its 2006 "People Of The Year 2006".
The two United States Border Patrol agents shot drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila near the US–Mexico border and were convicted of "eleven of the twelve counts alleged in the indictment, including assault with a dangerous weapon, assault with serious bodily injury, discharge of a firearm during the commission of a crime of violence and wilfully violating Aldrete-Davila's Constitutional, Fourth Amendment right to be free from illegal seizure, as well as obstructing justice by intentionally defacing the crime scene, lying about the incident, and failing to report the truth."
They had been sentenced to 11 years and 1 day and 12 years imprisonment, respectively, and were subsequently incarcerated.
FrontPage Magazine considered them guilty only of "bureaucratic infractions".
"In 2016, the Southern Poverty Law Center called Horowitz and FrontPage Magazine part of "the premier financier of radical anti-Muslim extremism" in recent years."
Jan 23, 2017 20:52:58 #
You also had a story about the VA.
It is about lower level supervisors not President Obama.
Every reference you have is BS.
This is from your link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/04/07/va-wait-time-manipulation-veterans/82726634/
"The newly released findings of those probes show that supervisors instructed schedulers to manipulate wait times in Arkansas, California, Delaware, Illinois, New York, Texas and Vermont, giving the false impression facilities there were meeting VA performance measures for shorter wait times.
In some cases, the system encouraged manipulation even without explicit instruction from supervisors. A manager in West Palm Beach, Fla., sent out laudatory emails touting the shorter wait times the system showed. Schedulers in Harlingen, Texas, reported being berated by supervisors when they booked appointments showing longer wait times for veterans. (It was “not pretty,” one employee said.)
In some cases — in Gainesville, Fla., White River Junction, Vt., and Philadelphia, for example — they found VA employees improperly kept lists of veterans needing care outside the scheduling system, a violation that also hid actual wait times."
It is about lower level supervisors not President Obama.
Every reference you have is BS.
This is from your link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/04/07/va-wait-time-manipulation-veterans/82726634/
"The newly released findings of those probes show that supervisors instructed schedulers to manipulate wait times in Arkansas, California, Delaware, Illinois, New York, Texas and Vermont, giving the false impression facilities there were meeting VA performance measures for shorter wait times.
In some cases, the system encouraged manipulation even without explicit instruction from supervisors. A manager in West Palm Beach, Fla., sent out laudatory emails touting the shorter wait times the system showed. Schedulers in Harlingen, Texas, reported being berated by supervisors when they booked appointments showing longer wait times for veterans. (It was “not pretty,” one employee said.)
In some cases — in Gainesville, Fla., White River Junction, Vt., and Philadelphia, for example — they found VA employees improperly kept lists of veterans needing care outside the scheduling system, a violation that also hid actual wait times."
Jan 24, 2017 06:58:40 #
Checkmate wrote:
Defend your half breed all you want, Osama didn't let a day go by without lying.
You are confused - "Osama" is the name of the terrorist killed by our president, "Obama". And as an example of him not lying - with the Affordable Care Act most people could keep their doctor. If your doctor is on the United Health Care panel and you sign up for United Health Care through the ACA, you can keep your doctor. Some of the cheaper plans have smaller panels of physicians, so depending upon YOUR choice of plans, you might not be able to keep your doctor. The ACA, as envisioned by the president, would have allowed everyone to keep their physician. Just because the GOP would not help develop a great health care program and fought him all the way, we do not have an ideal program.
Jan 24, 2017 06:59:57 #
Jan 24, 2017 07:43:25 #
Jan 24, 2017 08:48:20 #
More alternative facts:
By TOM LIDDY Jan 24, 2017, 6:25 AM ET
"Donald Trump has repeated the unsubstantiated claim that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election, a claim that he used after the election to justify his loss of the popular vote, Democratic and Republican sources told ABC News.
"Serious" voter fraud and a "rigged" system were themes of Trump's campaign, both in the primaries and general election, assertions that carried past Election Day. Trump, who has made a series of unsubstantiated or false claims, won the Electoral College with 306 votes (2 eventually defected), but lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million ballots.
During the meeting with Congressional leadership, Trump said "3 to 5 million illegals" voted, according to two Democratic aides. But a Republican aide said the comments were made in jest."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-repeats-unsubstantiated-claim-voter-fraud-election/story?id=44997887
By TOM LIDDY Jan 24, 2017, 6:25 AM ET
"Donald Trump has repeated the unsubstantiated claim that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election, a claim that he used after the election to justify his loss of the popular vote, Democratic and Republican sources told ABC News.
"Serious" voter fraud and a "rigged" system were themes of Trump's campaign, both in the primaries and general election, assertions that carried past Election Day. Trump, who has made a series of unsubstantiated or false claims, won the Electoral College with 306 votes (2 eventually defected), but lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million ballots.
During the meeting with Congressional leadership, Trump said "3 to 5 million illegals" voted, according to two Democratic aides. But a Republican aide said the comments were made in jest."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-repeats-unsubstantiated-claim-voter-fraud-election/story?id=44997887
Jan 24, 2017 09:39:22 #
KGOldWolf wrote:
I fear the term "half breed" tells us more than the "facts" you so vigorously express.
Checky is our resident grand dragon wannabe...
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