BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky

Here is an excerpt from 'Forbes' Magazine:

"When White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer listed his claims about the inauguration crowds and televised audience, he made one demonstrably false statement after another. And when White House counselor Kellyanne Conway called Spicer’s statements a presentation of “alternative facts,” she attempted to redefine the English language. While you can have alternative explanations or interpretations of facts, you cannot change the nature of reality.

However, the claims and language are chilling in a fundamental way. When an administration wants the rights to redefine facts, it isn’t unreasonable to consider whether it is willing to change data to support itself. Such an action would push the country closer to Orwell’s Ministry of Truth concept and undermine a vital resource for intelligent decisions and strategy.

People have already been worried. Scientists have been copying U.S. climate data for fear that the new administration might take it offline and make it unavailable.

It sounds like a laughable conspiracy theory that one could write off as the fevered complaints of a political faction that lost. But when the administration states that it can choose different sets of facts and quote more compliant numbers, it shows a frightening degree of disrespect for the very concept of facts."

Read full article here:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2017/01/22/alternative-facts-may-be-the-end-of-trustworthy-government-decision-data/#31e81c0a7aae

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

"Alternative Facts" just seems so right for these people.

KGOldWolf

The country is now in great danger. It will grow much worse when those who now support him realize they have been had by a petty con-man.

Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida

An "Alterbative fact": The President is an honest and decent man.

Kalskag2

And Trump has big hands.

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

This story is almost laughable in light of Obama's record in the last eight years. Perhaps they are right about the White House Spokesman's false quotes about the crowd size, a subject of little importance. Here are some much more serious instances of Government "making up stories" on important issues during the last eight years:

1. Government falsified employment numbers in California in order for official unemployment record to be under 5% for Obama's re-election in 2012.

2. Obama himself made up story about BenGhazi demonstrations for the same purpose as above.

2. Attorney General Eric Holder and several others, including Hillary, were caught lying to Congress on numerous occasions.

3. Obama falsified reports about ISIS coming from the CIA as evidenced by the open letter from 50 CIA analysts saying so.

4. Veterans Administration officials falsified reports on patients living and dead in order to inflate their perceived progress and collect big bonuses.

5. Obama claimed that "inspectors have determined Iran to be in full compliance with U.N. agreements on Nuclear Material," prompting a farsical back and forth with reporters by the White House Spokesman at a press conference.

6. If you like your Healthcare plan (or Doctor), you can keep it.

Not one person was disciplined or fired for the above fabrications, and these are just the first ones that come to mind. Obama himself just recently said that he was proud of the fact that he hasn't had a single scandal in the White House during his term!!??

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

I see you haven't read the newspaper recently. Obama is no longer the President.

Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio

Are you implying that we are no longer allowed to talk about Obama three days after he left office? If I recall, the Liberals on this site, including you, have been talking about George Bush for eight years.

Keenan Loc: Central Coast California

A couple of observations:

1) This thread is about Trump and his people normalizing lying and calling it "alternative facts". It has nothing to do with Obama. By changing the subject to Obama, you are, yet again, pulling the ol' "Mommy, he did it first!" idiotic excuse.

2) You just made a series of baseless accusations that Obama fabricated unemployment numbers and other things without offering a shred of evidence. These are the most shrill accusations from the fringes of laughable right wingnut sources. You can't possibly expect people to take you seriously when you spout such ridiculous accusations with no evidence, can you?

mwalsh Loc: Houston

"Alternative Facts" have new name under this administration.

From now on we will get lots of "Spiced Up Facts."

green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20

superfact

mwalsh Loc: Houston

I like Spice Facts...press secretary Spicer and all...

Checkmate Loc: Southern California

Checkmate Loc: Southern California

You like a dozen donuts at a time.

Checkmate Loc: Southern California

Defend your half breed all you want, Osama didn't let a day go by without lying.