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Jan 21, 2017 18:03:47   #
phyprof
 
Kiron Kid wrote:
Cool. I still do not own a digital rig. But my film bodies are in constant use.


Awesome photograph!

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Jan 21, 2017 18:12:02   #
phyprof
 
gessman wrote:
Prof Clinch, not to discourage you but unless your life in the Blue Ridge is fraught with doldrums and you just have a lot of extra time and think you would enjoy waxing on about film, let me just say that in consideration of the experience in the earlier thread by lonerangefinder that you cited, to help you in the scope of putting the stats in perspective, you might want to assume that out of the 70100 members to this forum, the few who you pointed out who weren't interested in film are not representative of the vast majority of us. Likewise, those who are dead set against digital and overly vocal about it are also most likely a fringe element and a small minority of the total membership. I would venture to say that whatever amount of time you spend with your series will be spent on the few who are in the choir to which you will be preaching. Now, please carry on with my blessings but please understand that I, at age 80, for one, who has an almost unfathomable number of film cameras from 8mm to 8x10, many of which are in periodic use, will not be with you looking backwards from here in the "Rockies," just in case you're interested. Were I you, I would spend my time out on "the trail" with my Nikon where the use of my time would no doubt be vastly more appreciated, not to sound perfectly selfish. Our time is finite and the teaching potential here is virtually without any external reward of any sort and will likely descend to little more than verbal conflict after the initial effects of the endorphins of nostalgia wear off.
Prof Clinch, not to discourage you but unless your... (show quote)


Thank you for your input. Yes I do get off my chunk and wander the hills and valleys every opportunity. I am not starting this series to teach but to share with like minded shutterbugs. I plan on learning lot from others as, what I hope is a discussion about photography an film, this topic get going.

I look forward to any and all responses.

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Jan 21, 2017 18:13:41   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
selmslie wrote:
There are plenty of us here who will be grateful to hear from someone with more knowledge and experience, even if some of the information turns out to be a review of things we already know.


Well said.

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Jan 21, 2017 18:20:10   #
phyprof
 
TriX wrote:
Well said.


I feel that way. There are many more things I can learn and I have found the best source is the people doing it. I look forward to where this path will take us.

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Jan 21, 2017 18:30:56   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
phyprof wrote:
Thank you for your input. Yes I do get off my chunk and wander the hills and valleys every opportunity. I am not starting this series to teach but to share with like minded shutterbugs. I plan on learning lot from others as, what I hope is a discussion about photography an film, this topic get going.

I look forward to any and all responses.


Well, I hope it turns out how you want it and I'm sure it probably will. The masses are already out to protest my advisement I see, all three of them. Go for it. I'm sure it'll be worthwhile for all who participate in it and each of you have my blessings, for what that's worth.

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Jan 21, 2017 19:59:56   #
phyprof
 
gessman wrote:
Well, I hope it turns out how you want it and I'm sure it probably will. The masses are already out to protest my advisement I see, all three of them. Go for it. I'm sure it'll be worthwhile for all who participate in it and each of you have my blessings, for what that's worth.


All blessings greatly appreciated. Thanks

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Jan 21, 2017 20:16:08   #
whitewolfowner
 
gessman wrote:
Prof Clinch, not to discourage you but unless your life in the Blue Ridge is fraught with doldrums and you just have a lot of extra time and think you would enjoy waxing on about film, let me just say that in consideration of the experience in the earlier thread by lonerangefinder that you cited, to help you in the scope of putting the stats in perspective, you might want to assume that out of the 70100 members to this forum, the few who you pointed out who weren't interested in film are not representative of the vast majority of us. Likewise, those who are dead set against digital and overly vocal about it are also most likely a fringe element and a small minority of the total membership. I would venture to say that whatever amount of time you spend with your series will be spent on the few who are in the choir to which you will be preaching. Now, please carry on with my blessings but please understand that I, at age 80, for one, who has an almost unfathomable number of film cameras from 8mm to 8x10, many of which are in periodic use, will not be with you looking backwards from here in the "Rockies," just in case you're interested. Were I you, I would spend my time out on "the trail" with my Nikon where the use of my time would no doubt be vastly more appreciated, not to sound perfectly selfish. Our time is finite and the teaching potential here is virtually without any external reward of any sort and will likely descend to little more than verbal conflict after the initial effects of the endorphins of nostalgia wear off.
Prof Clinch, not to discourage you but unless your... (show quote)



I disagree with you entirely. First of all, film is making a come back and many young are growing an interest in it, Secondly, many of us here are older (60 and up) and spent much of our lives doing film and still love doing it; not to say the many that are wanting to jump back into it. Where did your thirst for knowledge go anyways; are you afraid so much to maybe learn something new or pass on some knowledge to many more that you want to discourage those of us that do? Lighten up man; we are people and people love learning and teaching; it's two way process and those who have taught at any time in their lives know that they learn more from their students than they teach to the class.

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Jan 21, 2017 22:51:29   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Welcome. I own and use several film cameras. I still think my FM2 is an elegantly designed instrument. There was a recent post here on attempting to use the old "range scales" that used to be on every lens with an aperture ring. Occasionally, I will take out my Fuji 120 range finder. It's a pleasure to slow down and think through the process. Yes I shoot digital-- there are a few processes that I can't really do with film-- but I cannot ever imagine not doing some film photography.

FWIW, I practice the oldest form of transportation: I walk to work. In a sense it's like film photography: it's amazing what you miss when you drive; it's amazing what you miss when you "spray and pray."

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Jan 22, 2017 00:32:54   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
I disagree with you entirely. First of all, film is making a come back and many young are growing an interest in it, Secondly, many of us here are older (60 and up) and spent much of our lives doing film and still love doing it; not to say the many that are wanting to jump back into it. Where did your thirst for knowledge go anyways; are you afraid so much to maybe learn something new or pass on some knowledge to many more that you want to discourage those of us that do? Lighten up man; we are people and people love learning and teaching; it's two way process and those who have taught at any time in their lives know that they learn more from their students than they teach to the class.
I disagree with you entirely. First of all, film ... (show quote)


It isn't apparent that you read what I wrote or if you did you seemingly didn't understand my purpose which was intended for the OP, not you. If you had read it and understood it, you would know that I said I was 80 and have a slew of film cameras. What I didn't say was that I have used all of those film cameras, had a darkroom in my basement, and am not missing a whole lot of knowledge about film and that era. I also keep abreast of the current trends in photography. You have conjured up a few erroneous assumptions about me and presumed to offer me some behavioral advice that I do not need based on those erroneous assumptions. You assumed that I have no interest in film, assumed my urge to learn has left me, and a couple of other assumptions none of which are accurate. Perhaps you should take your own counsel about lightening up. If you were to look at my profile you will see that I am one of the longest term members of this forum having been a member since Sep 4, 2011 and I have seen the subject of film useage come up repeatedly and I merely suggested that, based on the amount of time the OP was willing to invest in his "series" of posts, he might not find enough interest to justify his effort. I suppose time will tell. I've made no attempt to interfere with anything anyone wants to do, have not suggested that you nor anyone else have or not have an interest in anything you choose to have an interest in, nor have I offered you any advice, nor asked you for any, so go forth with my best wishes and do as you so desire.

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Jan 22, 2017 00:44:46   #
TAF- O69
 
We, you and I, Prof., are on the same tangent. We watched all " improvements", in photography, go hurtling full bore(ing) towards pixelated pedestrianism. I believe art must involve a bit, of effort and suffering,which leads to a sense, of achievement. And, therefore, a greater personal sense of pride , and thus, connection, to the final image. I've found a way to use digital equipment, but mainly to produce better film images. Kinda' like Polaroid was once used , for test exposures. I love the freedom, and creative magic, of manipulating film negs. and slides, that may, one day, hang, in museums. Ten -twelve hours, in a good dark room, is, to me, great fun. It is exhausting, but ,trmendously fulfilling. That's, why I love the randomness, of film. Whound69

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Jan 22, 2017 00:58:35   #
phyprof
 
In my first post on Analogue is alive and well I inadvertently mislead a few people. At the end of the post was a quote from Tim Clinch. I am not Tim Clinch, although I wouldn't mind being a regular contributor to Black + White Photography. I am sorry for any confusion this may have caused.

On a different note: How many photographers does it take to change a light-bulb?

ANS: Five, one to change the light-bulb and four to say, "Well heck, I could have done that."

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Jan 22, 2017 01:46:27   #
Mike N Loc: Fairbanks, Alaska
 
Thank you! I am really looking forward to this series.

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Jan 22, 2017 02:01:26   #
whitewolfowner
 
gessman wrote:
It isn't apparent that you read what I wrote or if you did you seemingly didn't understand my purpose which was intended for the OP, not you. If you had read it and understood it, you would know that I said I was 80 and have a slew of film cameras. What I didn't say was that I have used all of those film cameras, had a darkroom in my basement, and am not missing a whole lot of knowledge about film and that era. I also keep abreast of the current trends in photography. You have conjured up a few erroneous assumptions about me and presumed to offer me some behavioral advice that I do not need based on those erroneous assumptions. You assumed that I have no interest in film, assumed my urge to learn has left me, and a couple of other assumptions none of which are accurate. Perhaps you should take your own counsel about lightening up. If you were to look at my profile you will see that I am one of the longest term members of this forum having been a member since Sep 4, 2011 and I have seen the subject of film useage come up repeatedly and I merely suggested that, based on the amount of time the OP was willing to invest in his "series" of posts, he might not find enough interest to justify his effort. I suppose time will tell. I've made no attempt to interfere with anything anyone wants to do, have not suggested that you nor anyone else have or not have an interest in anything you choose to have an interest in, nor have I offered you any advice, nor asked you for any, so go forth with my best wishes and do as you so desire.
It isn't apparent that you read what I wrote or if... (show quote)



What you said is what the OP specifically asked for not to be posted, but you had have your gas!

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Jan 22, 2017 02:52:04   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Looking back at my page one post on this thread, I see that I am sandwiched between two posters from the 'Land of my Father' , who was born in Llandudno.

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Jan 22, 2017 11:45:35   #
Rich E Loc: Show Low,AZ
 
phyprof wrote:
I was fortunate. Every college where I worked or did research had a darkroom that I had access to. They also had the latest and best in enlargers, lenses, timers, temperature regulators, and so on. I provided my chemicals and papers. What a ride!


Every Air Force Base I was stationed at had a very nice darkroom. We paid 50 cents an hour and only had to bring our own paper. I do miss shooting with Tri-x and Ilford

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