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Jan 20, 2017 15:54:47   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Many interesting suggestions.
I am guessing Sony has IS bodies but they are digital.
In order to have IS for a film body you will have to have lenses with IS built into the body I am guessing you have EFs lenses for the SL1 and they will not work or mount on a film body due to vignetting as they do not cover the full 35mm format.
If you do have EF lenses with IS you can pick up a good quality used EOS film camera very cheap for the Rebels and 650-620 era bodies and they will work perfectly with any current EF lens with full IS and any other features in the lens. This is the beauty of the Canon system you do not lose any features of your lenses no matter what body it is mounted on film or digital.
So I suggest you start investing into EF lenses and a EOS film body. The EF lenses will work beautifully with no loss of features on your SL1 as well.
Many interesting suggestions. br I am guessing Son... (show quote)


Excellent suggestion. An EOS-1 N or V with EF lenses is a great answer. I just picked up an immaculate EOS-1N for $100, and that's not unusual.

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Jan 20, 2017 16:05:21   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
TriX wrote:
Excellent suggestion. An EOS-1 N or V with EF lenses is a great answer. I just picked up an immaculate EOS-1N for $100, and that's not unusual.


I got a Rebel for $10.00 and it is immaculate.

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Jan 20, 2017 16:58:45   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
I sometimes use a monopod or other support with my film cameras, occasionally in combination with a shutter release cable. (Obviously tripods offer greatest stabilization, but in many situations they are just not practical to carry around or set up.) Utilizing the camera's self-timer is another option to reduce camera shake.

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Jan 20, 2017 19:08:29   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Many interesting suggestions.
I am guessing Sony has IS bodies but they are digital.
In order to have IS for a film body you will have to have lenses with IS built into the body I am guessing you have EFs lenses for the SL1 and they will not work or mount on a film body due to vignetting as they do not cover the full 35mm format.
If you do have EF lenses with IS you can pick up a good quality used EOS film camera very cheap for the Rebels and 650-620 era bodies and they will work perfectly with any current EF lens with full IS and any other features in the lens. This is the beauty of the Canon system you do not lose any features of your lenses no matter what body it is mounted on film or digital.
So I suggest you start investing into EF lenses and a EOS film body. The EF lenses will work beautifully with no loss of features on your SL1 as well.
Many interesting suggestions. br I am guessing Son... (show quote)


Image stabilization in A mount Cameras is based on Sensor shift technology for still images, and video uses both sensor shift AND electronic stabilization for SLT cameras.

Minolta developed sensor shift technology. All Autofocus Minolta and Konica Minolta cameras, film and digital, use the A mount, same as Sony DSLR and DSLT cameras which were developed FROM the Minolta line.

The OP will NOT be able to have lens stabilization in their current film cameras, hence the suggestions for tripods and filled balls. HOWEVER, the OP DID express an interest in moving to a full frame camera. They mentioned that they wanted to stick with the Minolta/Sony product line and was looking at the E mount A7II, which would require an adaptor to utilize their existing collection of Minolta glass. The new Sony A99II would not, and it offers both electronic stabilization for video AND 5 axis sensor shift stabilization FAR superior to the two axis stabilization offered by canikon lenses.

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Jan 20, 2017 20:20:00   #
jsenear Loc: Hopkins, MN.
 
devildancer70 wrote:
I know that I'm setting myself up for some ridicule by asking this question, but are there are any SLRs that have image stabilization? I have fallen back to film for the trip that I'm currently undertaking and am finding it somewhat relaxing to be old school again even with having to waiting for film processing. I have DSLR's a plenty: Sony A57, Canon SL1, Canon point and shoot.



I'm currently shooting with 2 Minolta SLRs: 650si and QT si and a good assortment of lenses. The A-mounts will work on my A57 without any problem. The back of my mind is that I would like to do a full frame DSLR: Sony A7 ii, with the attachment for the A-mounts.

I would like to stay with the Minolta product line. Had a 400si a number of years ago and lots of lenses.

The QT si is the only film camera we have in house right now. Could not bring myself to part with it.



Any advice gladly accepted.

dave
I know that I'm setting myself up for some ridicul... (show quote)

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Jan 20, 2017 23:07:20   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CHOLLY wrote:
Image stabilization in A mount Cameras is based on Sensor shift technology for still images, and video uses both sensor shift AND electronic stabilization for SLT cameras.

Minolta developed sensor shift technology. All Autofocus Minolta and Konica Minolta cameras, film and digital, use the A mount, same as Sony DSLR and DSLT cameras which were developed FROM the Minolta line.

The OP will NOT be able to have lens stabilization in their current film cameras, hence the suggestions for tripods and filled balls. HOWEVER, the OP DID express an interest in moving to a full frame camera. They mentioned that they wanted to stick with the Minolta/Sony product line and was looking at the E mount A7II, which would require an adaptor to utilize their existing collection of Minolta glass. The new Sony A99II would not, and it offers both electronic stabilization for video AND 5 axis sensor shift stabilization FAR superior to the two axis stabilization offered by canikon lenses.
Image stabilization in A mount Cameras is based on... (show quote)


Film.
OP writes, "but are there are any SLRs that have image stabilization? I have fallen back to film for the trip that I'm currently undertaking and am finding it somewhat relaxing to be old school again even with having to waiting for film processing. I have DSLR's a plenty: Sony A57, Canon SL1, Canon point and shoot."

Canon film cameras have superb IS that Sony can't even dream about. My $10 Rebel film camera smokes any Sony "film" camera for IS. Ooops, Sony dosen't have film cameras. So guess what the Canon IS can't be touched by Sony. And every EF lens made is beautiful in it's IS operation on any EOS film camera. So you get retro film use the OP wants and incredible IS to boot.

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Jan 21, 2017 10:22:20   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Film.
OP writes, "but are there are any SLRs that have image stabilization? I have fallen back to film for the trip that I'm currently undertaking and am finding it somewhat relaxing to be old school again even with having to waiting for film processing. I have DSLR's a plenty: Sony A57, Canon SL1, Canon point and shoot."

Canon film cameras have superb IS that Sony can't even dream about. My $10 Rebel film camera smokes any Sony "film" camera for IS. Ooops, Sony dosen't have film cameras. So guess what the Canon IS can't be touched by Sony. And every EF lens made is beautiful in it's IS operation on any EOS film camera. So you get retro film use the OP wants and incredible IS to boot.
Film. br OP writes, "but are there are any SL... (show quote)


YOU may have problems absorbing and comprehending more than one concept in a passage, but that is NOT a weakness that I suffer.

The OP said they own Minolta cameras and lenses and wanted to STAY in that line.

Did you read that part? Do you need me to explain it to you S L O W L Y ?

The OP ALSO said they were interested in moving to a full-frame digital camera IN THE SONY LINE.

As for your statement about Canon IS compared to Sony IS... again it would seem that your comprehension skills are somewhat lacking. Because while I did mention that ALL Sony DSLR/DSLT cameras come with image stabilization BUILT IN, the camera that I recommended the OP purchase was the A99II which has 5 axis sensor shift image stabilization good to 4.5 stops. If you think FOR ONE SECOND that the 2 axis stabilization found in canikon lenses is equal to or as you said, "can't be touched by Sony", then you are either completely ignorant of the facts, totally/illogically/unjustifiably biased in favor of canon, or just plain dishonest.

YOUR choice.

In ANY event, you lack credibility here.

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Jan 21, 2017 10:58:41   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
CHOLLY wrote:
YOU may have problems absorbing and comprehending more than one concept in a passage, but that is NOT a weakness that I suffer.

The OP said they own Minolta cameras and lenses and wanted to STAY in that line.

Did you read that part? Do you need me to explain it to you S L O W L Y ?

The OP ALSO said they were interested in moving to a full-frame digital camera IN THE SONY LINE.

As for your statement about Canon IS compared to Sony IS... again it would seem that your comprehension skills are somewhat lacking. Because while I did mention that ALL Sony DSLR/DSLT cameras come with image stabilization BUILT IN, the camera that I recommended the OP purchase was the A99II which has 5 axis sensor shift image stabilization good to 4.5 stops. If you think FOR ONE SECOND that the 2 axis stabilization found in canikon lenses is equal to or as you said, "can't be touched by Sony", then you are either completely ignorant of the facts, totally/illogically/unjustifiably biased in favor of canon, or just plain dishonest.

YOUR choice.

In ANY event, you lack credibility here.
YOU may have problems absorbing and comprehending ... (show quote)


Had to jump in. You are guilty of your own charge, totally/illogically/unjustifiably biased in favor of Sony. All leading camera brands are good products and each have their strong points and their weak points. To say one is better than the other is nothing more than an opinion. If one brand was indeed better than the others then we would all have that brand and the others would go out of business. Argue your points but do it without trying to paint someone who disagrees as some kind of sub-intelligent being.

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Jan 21, 2017 11:55:00   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
leftj wrote:
Had to jump in. You are guilty of your own charge, totally/illogically/unjustifiably biased in favor of Sony. All leading camera brands are good products and each have their strong points and their weak points. To say one is better than the other is nothing more than an opinion. If one brand was indeed better than the others then we would all have that brand and the others would go out of business. Argue your points but do it without trying to paint someone who disagrees as some kind of sub-intelligent being.
Had to jump in. You are guilty of your own charge,... (show quote)


Yet ANOTHER person who does not pay attention.

You neither comprehended what the OP was asking for in their original post NOR understood ANY of my answers, particularly the last one, in response to it. I WOULD suggest you re-read them all to get a clearer understanding, but based on your reply above I doubt your mind is open or flexible enough to absorb the truth or change. ESPECIALLY considering the FALSE attribution you made to the purpose of my post(s).

Your straw man argument is both out of place AND factually incorrect in this context.

So a bit of advice; the next time you feel the need to "step in" and correct someone, make SURE you know what is going on first okay?

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Jan 21, 2017 11:59:19   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
CHOLLY wrote:
Yet ANOTHER person who does not pay attention.

You neither comprehended what the OP was asking for in their original post NOR understood ANY of my answers, particularly the last one, in response to it. I WOULD suggest you re-read them all to get a clearer understanding, but based on your reply above I doubt your mind is open or flexible enough to absorb the truth or change.


Yet ANOTHER person who does not pay attention. im... (show quote)


Don't care what the OP was asking. Was focusing on your superior attitude which continues to shine through in your latest post and which shows that your mind is neither open or flexible.

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Jan 21, 2017 12:01:54   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
leftj wrote:
Don't care what the OP was asking. Was focusing on your superior attitude which continues to shine through in your latest post and which shows that your mind is neither open or flexible.


Yeah...

Well THIS post says it all doesn't it.

YOU are the one who thinks they are superior considering this statement illustrating that FACTS DON'T MATTER:
leftj wrote:
Don't care what the OP was asking.

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Jan 21, 2017 12:03:54   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
CHOLLY wrote:
... 5 axis sensor shift stabilization FAR superior to the two axis stabilization offered by canikon lenses.


Why is it superior?

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Jan 21, 2017 12:10:04   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
CHOLLY wrote:


My post was not about what the OP was asking. It was about your condescending attitude but that's not what you want to focus on is it so you just continue to pretend it's about what the OP was asking.

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Jan 21, 2017 12:21:08   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
oldtigger wrote:
Why is it superior?


2 axis image stabilization like that used by Canon is good for 2-3 stops of image stabilization... good in two directional planes; up down, left right.

On the other hand, the 5 axis image stabilization used in Sony, Olympus, Pentax, and Panasonic covers not only the x and y axis, but also pitch, yaw, and roll as well. In the A99II that means it is good for up to 4.5 stops of image stabilization.

And 4.5 stops covering all possible camera movement is better than 2-3 stops covering just 2.

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Jan 21, 2017 12:23:28   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
leftj wrote:
My post was not about what the OP was asking. It was about your condescending attitude but that's not what you want to focus on is it so you just continue to pretend it's about what the OP was asking.


Someone who COMPLETELY ignores both the content of AND reasons for another persons comments has got absolutely NO business calling that other person condescending.

That isn't the pot calling the kettle black; it's just plain DUMB.

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