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Jan 19, 2017 08:41:57   #
Dik
 
Let us know if it solves your problem.
Glad to help.

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Jan 19, 2017 09:08:16   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Dik wrote:
Let us know if it solves your problem.
Glad to help.


Will do , thanks

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Jan 19, 2017 09:12:07   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
I bought a used D7200 and don't have a disc. My computer will not except a raw file from this camera. It will from my D7000. Trying to repent and learn how to use Raw so I can change my handle.


Here is Nikon USA's download center. It has all of Nikon's free and for charge software including firmware etc.

http://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/index.html

Go to software and get View NX or View NXi. The Camera Control products are for tethering your camera to a computer for shooting. The View and Capture products at for editing. Capture will have a cost of about $90. I have Lightroom CC / and Photoshop and love them but I also have Nikon View NX and Capture. While I don't use View NX and Capture as much as I did prior to Lightroom, I do occasionally use them for things that I'm not quite sure how to do in Lightroom/Photoshop. Camera Control Pro is very good (and yes there is a fee for it too about $55 I think. Be aware that with Nikon Capture and Nikon Camera Control Pro, if you have older Nikon cameras you may need the older version of the program. As the program updates some of the older cameras are dropped from support in order to make room for newer cameras. For instance, the Nikon D70s is no longer supported but the D7100 and D610 are. If you have an older camera you may want the older version of the program and you DONT want to do updates.

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Jan 19, 2017 10:23:44   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
I bought a used D7200 and don't have a disc. My computer will not except a raw file from this camera. It will from my D7000. Trying to repent and learn how to use Raw so I can change my handle.

I ran into the same kind of problem when I bought my D7000 - the version of Elements I had could not read from it! So I bought LR (stand-alone) and all was well. But with all the updates to LR, now I have the Adobe CC subscription for $10/month which gives me LR and PS.

Hopefully you have successfully downloaded the View NX from Nikon's website. It will give you some basic capabilities at no cost. But, as you have now realized, you will end up having to spend money somewhere if you want to work with RAW!

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Jan 19, 2017 10:54:28   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
I ran into the same kind of problem when I bought my D7000 - the version of Elements I had could not read from it! So I bought LR (stand-alone) and all was well. But with all the updates to LR, now I have the Adobe CC subscription for $10/month which gives me LR and PS.

Hopefully you have successfully downloaded the View NX from Nikon's website. It will give you some basic capabilities at no cost. But, as you have now realized, you will end up having to spend money somewhere if you want to work with RAW!
I ran into the same kind of problem when I bought ... (show quote)


You are right,thank you Susan

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Jan 19, 2017 10:58:12   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Dik wrote:
Let us know if it solves your problem.
Glad to help.


That was the right link, but when I tried to install it said I had to.have OX 10 , thanks for your help. Just call me Wessojpeg.😀😂😆

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Jan 19, 2017 11:24:10   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
That was the right link, but when I tried to install it said I had to.have OX 10 , thanks for your help. Just call me Wessojpeg.😀😂😆


By the way Wessojpeg, Nikon, in their infinite wisdom, updates the Raw/Nef file format as their cameras improve. So, when you purchase software, you need to make sure that the camera you own is one supported. As I mentioned about Nikon and Camera Control Pro., The D70s and other cameras before it are no longer supported but the newer cameras are. Now, this is just Camera Control Pro, and I understand it because the program has to actually control all aspects of the camera that is tethered to it, but, in theory, other programs may have similar issues so just verify before giving up money for the program. Also, if you installed View NX prior to such and such date and didn't do any updates, it may not support a newer camera. The updates carry the mods for the new cameras in addition to bug fixes. I'm not carping on the programs, they are very good. Its just that you need to be aware when you purchase or update what you are gaining or loosing.

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Jan 19, 2017 11:52:47   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
You see I don't understand 8 bit 14 bit. Don't have much money to spend on PC or elements, LR. Thanks


Your software is too old (Elements 10, 2011... iPhoto final version, 2013) and your D7200 too new (2015).

You just spent $800 (used) to $1000 (new) on a D7200 (more if you got it in kit with lenses) and you don't have $90 to update to Elements 15 to be able to work with the photos from the camera?

A free 30-day trial of Elements 15 can be downloaded from the Adobe website... give it a try to be sure it works and, if you like it, then buy a license.

There are other free RAW converters out there, but your own your own figuring them out and finding out if they'll work with your new camera.

Some software allows working on images in 16-bit mode. Simplistically, that provides more selection of colors than 8-bit.

The 168 million shades of color available in 8-bit processing seems a lot... until you compare with the 281 trillion possible colors in 16-bit mode!

When you shoot RAW with your camera it's capturing 14-bit images (16-bit in post-processing is interpolated by the software).

All digital cameras shoot RAW images, period. When you set the camera to JPEG it's actually very rapidly converting the RAW to JPEG according to the settings of the camera (white balance, saturation, contrast, noise reduction, sharpening, etc.). When you set the camera to save JPEG only the camera performs that conversion, then throws away a lot of the originally captured data. If you shoot a RAW + JPEG image then look at the file sizes, you'll see the difference. RAW files are always considerably larger than JPEG. Part of this difference is that the bit depth has been reduced to 8-bits, with the JPEG.

Photoshop Elements is 8-bit limited. It can only save 8-bit files such as JPEGs. But for the important stuff where it matters (exposure adjustments, changes to color temp & tint), within it's RAW converter Elements is actually working with 14-bit/16-bit files before "downsizing" them to JPEG.

The human eye can discern 10 million colors. So finished 8-bit files utilizing a palette or nearly 17 million colors are more than adequate for many purposes. In fact, a lot of printers and print services prefer or even require 8-bit JPEGs. Nearly everything done online uses JPEGs or other types of 8-bit or less files. But when working the image.... when changing exposure factors or white balance or some other things, better quality can be achieved in 16-bit mode. Elements can and does do this! It cannot apply some filters and special effects in 16-bit mode. And it can't save a file as, for example, a 16-bit TIFF or PSD or similar... which might be wanted for some professional and commercial purposes, but aren't really needed by most people. Elements also can work in the relatively standard sRGB color space or in the slightly wider Adobe RGB color space which some photo & graphics quality computer monitors are capable of displaying. Elements cannot work in the CMYK and a few other specialized color spaces that are primarily used for commercial printing and such. (Photoshop and Lightroom have more 16-bit capabilities.)

More about 8-bit versus 16-bit here: http://www.photoshopessentials.com/essentials/16-bit/

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Jan 19, 2017 12:13:23   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
amfoto1 wrote:
...You just spent $800 (used) to $1000 (new) on a D7200 (more if you got it in kit with lenses) and you don't have $90 to update to Elements 15 to be able to work with the photos from the camera? ...


How people choose to spend their money sometimes has confounded me, but I've given up trying to understand the logic of someone's purchasing decisions. For instance, I can't reconcile why someone world spend around $3500 for about Canon 5D Mark iV or a Nikon D810 and stick a $90 battery grip on it. But WessoJpeg's decision to avoid spending additional funds is pretty clear. He's not committed to raw and is still not even sure he wants to bother. He just wants to give it a try, presumably without an additional outlay of cash.

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Jan 19, 2017 12:32:44   #
Dik
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
That was the right link, but when I tried to install it said I had to.have OX 10 , thanks for your help. Just call me Wessojpeg.😀😂😆


How old is your Mac and how much RAM do you have?
If 8GB or more, update to newest Mac OS. It's free.

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Jan 19, 2017 15:59:02   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
Dik wrote:
How old is your Mac and how much RAM do you have?
If 8GB or more, update to newest Mac OS. It's free.


What's Ram, do I have Ram.?😀😃😨

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Jan 19, 2017 18:01:48   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
Here is Nikon USA's download center. It has all of Nikon's free and for charge software including firmware etc.

http://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/index.html

Go to software and get View NX or View NXi. The Camera Control products are for tethering your camera to a computer for shooting. The View and Capture products at for editing. Capture will have a cost of about $90. I have Lightroom CC / and Photoshop and love them but I also have Nikon View NX and Capture. While I don't use View NX and Capture as much as I did prior to Lightroom, I do occasionally use them for things that I'm not quite sure how to do in Lightroom/Photoshop. Camera Control Pro is very good (and yes there is a fee for it too about $55 I think. Be aware that with Nikon Capture and Nikon Camera Control Pro, if you have older Nikon cameras you may need the older version of the program. As the program updates some of the older cameras are dropped from support in order to make room for newer cameras. For instance, the Nikon D70s is no longer supported but the D7100 and D610 are. If you have an older camera you may want the older version of the program and you DONT want to do updates.
Here is Nikon USA's download center. It has all of... (show quote)


Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

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Jan 19, 2017 18:03:43   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Your software is too old (Elements 10, 2011... iPhoto final version, 2013) and your D7200 too new (2015).

You just spent $800 (used) to $1000 (new) on a D7200 (more if you got it in kit with lenses) and you don't have $90 to update to Elements 15 to be able to work with the photos from the camera?

A free 30-day trial of Elements 15 can be downloaded from the Adobe website... give it a try to be sure it works and, if you like it, then buy a license.

There are other free RAW converters out there, but your own your own figuring them out and finding out if they'll work with your new camera.

Some software allows working on images in 16-bit mode. Simplistically, that provides more selection of colors than 8-bit.

The 168 million shades of color available in 8-bit processing seems a lot... until you compare with the 281 trillion possible colors in 16-bit mode!

When you shoot RAW with your camera it's capturing 14-bit images (16-bit in post-processing is interpolated by the software).

All digital cameras shoot RAW images, period. When you set the camera to JPEG it's actually very rapidly converting the RAW to JPEG according to the settings of the camera (white balance, saturation, contrast, noise reduction, sharpening, etc.). When you set the camera to save JPEG only the camera performs that conversion, then throws away a lot of the originally captured data. If you shoot a RAW + JPEG image then look at the file sizes, you'll see the difference. RAW files are always considerably larger than JPEG. Part of this difference is that the bit depth has been reduced to 8-bits, with the JPEG.

Photoshop Elements is 8-bit limited. It can only save 8-bit files such as JPEGs. But for the important stuff where it matters (exposure adjustments, changes to color temp & tint), within it's RAW converter Elements is actually working with 14-bit/16-bit files before "downsizing" them to JPEG.

The human eye can discern 10 million colors. So finished 8-bit files utilizing a palette or nearly 17 million colors are more than adequate for many purposes. In fact, a lot of printers and print services prefer or even require 8-bit JPEGs. Nearly everything done online uses JPEGs or other types of 8-bit or less files. But when working the image.... when changing exposure factors or white balance or some other things, better quality can be achieved in 16-bit mode. Elements can and does do this! It cannot apply some filters and special effects in 16-bit mode. And it can't save a file as, for example, a 16-bit TIFF or PSD or similar... which might be wanted for some professional and commercial purposes, but aren't really needed by most people. Elements also can work in the relatively standard sRGB color space or in the slightly wider Adobe RGB color space which some photo & graphics quality computer monitors are capable of displaying. Elements cannot work in the CMYK and a few other specialized color spaces that are primarily used for commercial printing and such. (Photoshop and Lightroom have more 16-bit capabilities.)

More about 8-bit versus 16-bit here: http://www.photoshopessentials.com/essentials/16-bit/
Your software is too old (Elements 10, 2011... iPh... (show quote)


Your knowledge is incredible, thank you so much.

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Jan 19, 2017 18:32:40   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
WessoJPEG wrote:
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.


Hey WessoJPEG, I forgot to mention that should you want to try the Nikon software before you purchase it, there is a (I cant remember if it is 30 days or 60 days) free trial period before it demands purchase. At that point you can either purchase it or uninstall it. I should also mention that it is smart enough to realize if you try uninstalling it then reinstalling it to try to get another trial period. (I think it looks at the OS software's license key and your email address rather than something easily changed like IP address or anything like that. Now, I did manage to get an additional trial period on one piece by installing it on a second computer and using a different email address. But now I have licensed copies of all of their pay for use software.

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Jan 19, 2017 19:29:41   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
Hey WessoJPEG, I forgot to mention that should you want to try the Nikon software before you purchase it, there is a (I cant remember if it is 30 days or 60 days) free trial period before it demands purchase. At that point you can either purchase it or uninstall it. I should also mention that it is smart enough to realize if you try uninstalling it then reinstalling it to try to get another trial period. (I think it looks at the OS software's license key and your email address rather than something easily changed like IP address or anything like that. Now, I did manage to get an additional trial period on one piece by installing it on a second computer and using a different email address. But now I have licensed copies of all of their pay for use software.
Hey WessoJPEG, I forgot to mention that should you... (show quote)


Thanks for the help. I'm not going to spend any more money on this .😨😞😪

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