We did it (Page 3): Surfing? I thought he was trolling for gators.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

Texcaster wrote:

"Few people have grace, and neither of these two have it. It's actually pretty simple."

Maybe you missed it but Obama in the surf is a textbook shot of how to body surf with technique and style. It's inherent and carries over, ask anyone who can do it. Trump has positive buoyancy but just couldn't ever manage to launch his large self down a wave or an important job. He's your guy now, love him.

Surfing? I thought he was trolling for gators.

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

Texcaster wrote:

"Few people have grace, and neither of these two have it. It's actually pretty simple."

Maybe you missed it but Obama in the surf is a textbook shot of how to body surf with technique and style. It's inherent and carries over, ask anyone who can do it. Trump has positive buoyancy but just couldn't ever manage to launch his large self down a wave or an important job. He's your guy now, love him.

Oddly you attribute "grace" to body movement when it was pretty clear (bass on PMs I've received in this the past two hours) I was referring to personal (not religious) way of handling ones self. I was a body surfer and admire the sport. Maybe also a basketball player (even at my age!) and it involves grace of body movement......I've seen Obama play. Nope!

gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch

phcaan wrote:

Surfing? I thought he was trolling for gators.

I doubt even buzzards would munch on that crap.

mwalsh Loc: Houston

drainbamage wrote:

Obama said "I" 75 times. Trump always uses "we". That speaks volumes. Trump knows he can't do it alone. Obama thinks he did it all by himself.

Understand the royal use of the term "We" much?

mwalsh Loc: Houston

travelwp wrote:

Correction, the last guy didn't go into hiding. He became quiet out of respect for the office. Other former presidents did the same.

No, he ran and hid on his ranch with a large bottle....

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

viscountdriver wrote:

President Obama said We did it.
Did he?!

He managed to get millions more on government assistance.
His message last night was: 'Hitch your wagon to something bigger than yourself'.
Translated to: 'get a free ride while someone else is pulling', because no self respecting horse will pull your ass around.

Croce Loc: Earth

Cykdelic wrote:

We do disagree.....nothing wrong with that.

Your communication failure on this is that you assume because I understand the fact that Obama lacks grace that it means I believe Trump has it.....I don't. Treating this as an either/or argument, as many are treated in this blog between political views, is an invalid approach.

Few people have grace, and neither of these two have it. It's actually pretty simple.

Good point Cyk. These forum arguments often deterioratate into "oh, really well how about your guy". Nothing is gained thereby.

drainbamage

Croce wrote:

Good point Cyk. These forum arguments often deterioratate into "oh, really well how about your guy". Nothing is gained thereby.

Good point from you, too, Croce. It just gets so childish some times. "I'm right" "no, you're wrong" "your mother is ugly" etc. etc. If it could just be a forum where people respect each other and just agree to disagree, it would be much more interesting reading...

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

Croce wrote:

Good point Cyk. These forum arguments often deterioratate into "oh, really well how about your guy". Nothing is gained thereby.

Thanks, Croce. Just because I like bourbon doesn't mean I don't like wine, and vice versa!

It's kinda funny....over the time I've been on UHH, I've noticed that while I have read few conservatives whose posts are an undying support of, say, a Trump or a GWB, many progressive posts tend to be an undying alliance and support for, say, an Obama or a Hilary.

As the argument du jour progresses, the bile gets stronger and stronger (yes, it been in it, too!), but the blind obedience I see on the left is much stronger than what I see on the right. Not everyone, mind you, but a general observation.

Of course, it's just MHO on this observation, but I would be interested in your take on this.

viscountdriver Loc: East Kent UK

As an outsider I do not know whether Obama was a good president or not but undoubtedly he is a superb orator'Churchill was great, Hitler was good.Obama. Is in that league.It does not necessarily make a good politician but it helps.

Croce Loc: Earth

You are absolutely correct in your assumption Cyk. The most obvious being Keenan, Twatlow and of course Dirtpusher and djen along with Ricardsports and a few others are totally unworthy of participation in debate. Many of us on our side can be found on occassion conceding a point or two. That never happens with the above mentioned. They spout only a strict party line and are incapable of understanding any other.

I believe in coservative economics. I feel BO has tried his best to trash our economy. I have friends of all pigmentation.Good friends. Intimate friends who seek each others frienship, counsel and tables. We are all responsible, productive and charitable.

We are of different faiths, I am agnostic, we discuss these differences candidly, with curiousity and understanding. Each thankful for the comfort and moral strength that the others belief gives them knowing we may not like them if they held differently and thankful for having them in our lives as they are. Needless to say, as such we covet the first amendment and the 2nd and the entire constitution and wish to see it preserved.

We are a tolerant and even handed group. I am a staunch defender of womens rights. Athough fellow Republicans have tried to persuade me to adopt their view and failed, I have never been called a baby killer or threatened with expulsion.

We believe in the wisdom of having an electoral college to protect us from being innundated by the socialist waters of the left and right coasts. The above mentioned attic attendees believe as we do ... when the tide is in their favor only.

As for the other side? I see them as devious, intractable, biggoted, dependant robots, spouting their socialist, confiscatory, incentive killing, constitution stiffling impositions,unbearable.

With regard to this forum, I come here not with the delusion of engaging in civil debate. Not even with the slightest hope of converting anyone to our belief platform, but merely to witness just how stupid and awful life in this country would become if the likes of the aforementioned human feces were to continue to rule.

I come therefore merely for amusement and to rain a little hell on them. I am vindictive against biggotry and hatred and confiscatory measures implemented by thieves. (hohoho watch that comment attract fire)

Croce Loc: Earth

Croce wrote:

You are absolutely correct in your assumption Cyk. The most obvious being Keenan, Twatlow and of course Dirtpusher and djen along with Ricardsports and a few others are totally unworthy of participation in debate. Many of us on our side can be found on occassion conceding a point or two. That never happens with the above mentioned. They spout only a strict party line and are incapable of understanding any other.

I believe in coservative economics. I feel BO has tried his best to trash our economy. I have friends of all pigmentation.Good friends. Intimate friends who seek each others frienship, counsel and tables. We are all responsible, productive and charitable.

We are of different faiths, I am agnostic, we discuss these differences candidly, with curiousity and understanding. Each thankful for the comfort and moral strength that the others belief gives them knowing we may not like them if they held differently and thankful for having them in our lives as they are. Needless to say, as such we covet the first amendment and the 2nd and the entire constitution and wish to see it preserved.

We are a tolerant and even handed group. I am a staunch defender of womens rights. Athough fellow Republicans have tried to persuade me to adopt their view and failed, I have never been called a baby killer or threatened with expulsion.

We believe in the wisdom of having an electoral college to protect us from being innundated by the socialist waters of the left and right coasts. The above mentioned attic attendees believe as we do ... when the tide is in their favor only.

As for the other side? I see them as devious, intractable, biggoted, dependant robots, spouting their socialist, confiscatory, incentive killing, constitution stiffling impositions unbearable.

With regard to this forum, I come here not with the delusion of engaging in civil debate. Not even with the slightest hope of converting anyone to our belief platform, but merely to witness just how stupid and awful life in this country would become if the likes of the aforementioned human feces were to continue to rule.

You are absolutely correct in your assumption Cyk.... (show quote)

Checkmate Loc: Southern California

Texcaster wrote:

You're very blinkered. Obama from day one has shown inherent stature, dignity and grace. The exact opposite of America's tweetheart, now the main event. "Grab 'em by the pussy!"

Texie, sorry but you are truly FU. Obama has inherent stature, dignity and grace. His is probably the most corrupt, lying POS prez in our history.

phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO

Croce wrote:

You are absolutely correct in your assumption Cyk. The most obvious being Keenan, Twatlow and of course Dirtpusher and djen along with Ricardsports and a few others are totally unworthy of participation in debate. Many of us on our side can be found on occassion conceding a point or two. That never happens with the above mentioned. They spout only a strict party line and are incapable of understanding any other.

I believe in coservative economics. I feel BO has tried his best to trash our economy. I have friends of all pigmentation.Good friends. Intimate friends who seek each others frienship, counsel and tables. We are all responsible, productive and charitable.

We are of different faiths, I am agnostic, we discuss these differences candidly, with curiousity and understanding. Each thankful for the comfort and moral strength that the others belief gives them knowing we may not like them if they held differently and thankful for having them in our lives as they are. Needless to say, as such we covet the first amendment and the 2nd and the entire constitution and wish to see it preserved.

We are a tolerant and even handed group. I am a staunch defender of womens rights. Athough fellow Republicans have tried to persuade me to adopt their view and failed, I have never been called a baby killer or threatened with expulsion.

We believe in the wisdom of having an electoral college to protect us from being innundated by the socialist waters of the left and right coasts. The above mentioned attic attendees believe as we do ... when the tide is in their favor only.

As for the other side? I see them as devious, intractable, biggoted, dependant robots, spouting their socialist, confiscatory, incentive killing, constitution stiffling impositions,unbearable.

With regard to this forum, I come here not with the delusion of engaging in civil debate. Not even with the slightest hope of converting anyone to our belief platform, but merely to witness just how stupid and awful life in this country would become if the likes of the aforementioned human feces were to continue to rule.

I come therefore merely for amusement and to rain a little hell on them. I am vindictive against biggotry and hatred and confiscatory measures implemented by thieves. (hohoho watch that comment attract fire)

You are absolutely correct in your assumption Cyk.... (show quote)

Well stated, thank you.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

Croce wrote:

You are absolutely correct in your assumption Cyk. The most obvious being Keenan, Twatlow and of course Dirtpusher and djen along with Ricardsports and a few others are totally unworthy of participation in debate. Many of us on our side can be found on occassion conceding a point or two. That never happens with the above mentioned. They spout only a strict party line and are incapable of understanding any other.

I believe in coservative economics. I feel BO has tried his best to trash our economy. I have friends of all pigmentation.Good friends. Intimate friends who seek each others frienship, counsel and tables. We are all responsible, productive and charitable.

We are of different faiths, I am agnostic, we discuss these differences candidly, with curiousity and understanding. Each thankful for the comfort and moral strength that the others belief gives them knowing we may not like them if they held differently and thankful for having them in our lives as they are. Needless to say, as such we covet the first amendment and the 2nd and the entire constitution and wish to see it preserved.

We are a tolerant and even handed group. I am a staunch defender of womens rights. Athough fellow Republicans have tried to persuade me to adopt their view and failed, I have never been called a baby killer or threatened with expulsion.

We believe in the wisdom of having an electoral college to protect us from being innundated by the socialist waters of the left and right coasts. The above mentioned attic attendees believe as we do ... when the tide is in their favor only.

As for the other side? I see them as devious, intractable, biggoted, dependant robots, spouting their socialist, confiscatory, incentive killing, constitution stiffling impositions,unbearable.

With regard to this forum, I come here not with the delusion of engaging in civil debate. Not even with the slightest hope of converting anyone to our belief platform, but merely to witness just how stupid and awful life in this country would become if the likes of the aforementioned human feces were to continue to rule.

I come therefore merely for amusement and to rain a little hell on them. I am vindictive against biggotry and hatred and confiscatory measures implemented by thieves. (hohoho watch that comment attract fire)

You are absolutely correct in your assumption Cyk.... (show quote)

I agree with you and sum it up as liberals are unConstitutional at the core of their being.