I have a friend that I play pool with who has a very thick Scottish accent. He is very difficult to understand. Recently he traveled to California and spent some time in a bar. His new friends said "hey, you have a thick accent, you're not from around here are you?". He answered - "That's right! I'm from West Virginia".
Peterff
Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
pfrancke wrote:
I have a friend that I play pool with who has a very thick Scottish accent. He is very difficult to understand. Recently he traveled to California and spent some time in a bar. His new friends said "hey, you have a thick accent, you're not from around here are you?". He answered - "That's right! I'm from West Virginia".
That's about the same as me. I sometimes say that I'm from very far eastern California. I'm a Brit.
9 pages over how to say NIGHcon? wow!
I bought my first Nikon(nykon) 25 years ago. It was Nykon then and still is; the debate is moot
Bugfan wrote:
Martino ...
I had an interesting encounter with the English many years back that made a good point. We had been chatting about accents and I foolishly asked the Brit "why do you have an accent?" His response was "I don't have an accent" and of course he was right, his use of the language predated what we do in North America. Technically even today the pronunciation of English is the gold standard in the UK and it is up to the rest of the English speaking countries to conform.
So the next time people titter and seem critical, it's fair to ask them why they have an accent when you don't.
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The thing is that he may have had an English Accent but which one? which is why I was a little tongue in cheek earlier.
There are regional accents, some of which vary within social groups within a region, you might have a Yorkshire accent but sheffield , barnsley, wakefield, and leeds to name a few have quite distinct accents within Yorkshire.
You can multiply this by 100 and you may still not have covered accents within England let alone Scotland and wales Sean Bean has a Yorkshire accent with traces of sheffield and the queen tends to speak RP Received Pronunciation or what used to be known as BBC English in the 50's and 60's before they too moved towards regional accents.
Ireland has a host of accents too , non of which sound like Tom Cruise attempting an Irish Accent. Apple has a "Irish voice for osx" This sounds like an American trying to do an Irish accent and failing badly. I'm surprised Apple even released it to Irish regions it is so bad as to be insulting.
Round here like most say it as Nick-on or Nik-on its the same just like can-on.
The really bad one is Cannon, I don't have high hopes after reading that.
AsiaPaul wrote:
For anyone who has never traveled to Japan or other countries in the world, the correct pronunciation for Nikon is with a long e like in knee instead of the short i as in night as most Americans say it.
So the correct pronunciation is kneecon. Con is the same in both American English and Japanese.
It is the same pronunciation for All Nippon Airways. Nippon means Japan for the UHH members who do not know that.
I have confirmation from a well educated Asian friend who reads, writes, and speaks Chinese, Mandarin, Cantonese, and Japanese. She says
Nikon is pronounced Nee-kon ニ コ ン in Japanese, a direct translation to Nikon. That does not surprise me, but I like many American still think Neye-Kon or Nigh-Kon. I notice Europeans often say Nick-on.
But I am still lost when I go to a Korean or Vietnamese restaurant with my friend!
By-the-way, she shoots Canon!
ptcanon3ti wrote:
9 pages over how to say NIGHcon? wow!
Nee-Kon! Though I too have always said Nigh-Kon.
Yup nine pages. Could we add a few with Canon vs Cannon vs Caanon vs Kaanon vs Say-non? Any alternate pronunciations for Pentax?
Blackest ...
I think if we have to pick an accent it would be the Queen's English, whatever that may be.
I actually had another encounter in grade school. My best friend at the time was fresh off the boat from Scotland back in the fifties. It took me six months before I finally began to understand him and that was simply because I got used to the Scottish accent and he started to adopt Canadian expressions too.
But I shouldn't complain. German has an amazing collection of accents too. Sometimes you drive twenty kilometres and find a new accent. I had an aunt ten kilometres from my home town. Try as I might, most of the time I didn't have a clue what she said, my uncle had to translate. And the worst I've heard was Swiss German, to me that was a completly foreign language. But the German speaking nations did find a solution, the state mandated a formal German that everyone is required to learn and use in school. As a result it doesn't matter where we were born, we can actually understand each other, well ... until someone slips back into their regional dialect.
Bugfan wrote:
Blackest ...
I think if we have to pick an accent it would be the Queen's English, whatever that may be. ../...
Drink tea, hold the cup with your right hand squeeze the Sheffield porcelain handle between your thumb and index finger, raise your right little finger and say 'My dear, we were almost late for our afternoon tea'. Do keep the soucoupe under the cup as you drink so... After all you not want any dripping from your glazed moustache!!! That would not do at all and would destroy your snobbish poise.
Don't forget the stiff upper lip and the bored look.
Anatomy of a cup...
http://www.notneutral.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1800x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/p/e/perfectcup_11.jpg
Peterff
Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
Rongnongno wrote:
Drink tea, hold the cup with your right hand between your thumb and index finger, raise your right little finger and say 'My dear, we were almost late for our afternoon tea'.
Don't forget the stiff upper lip and the bored look.
You mean like "Ici le jeune Anglais avec son sang froid habituelle"
Meaning "Here is the young Englishman with his usual bloody cold!"
how about Siobhan - how do you pronounce ?
lamiaceae wrote:
Nee-Kon! Though I too have always said Nigh-Kon.
Yup nine pages. Could we add a few with Canon vs Cannon vs Caanon vs Kaanon vs Say-non? Any alternate pronunciations for Pentax?
I'm sticking with Nighcon. I'm sure they really don't care as long as we keep sending them $$$$
Peterff
Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
mikeysaling wrote:
how about Siobhan - how do you pronounce ?
Anglicized it is usually "Shivaun" or some similar spelling - Shi von - or similar phonetically I think. There may be better ways of representing it on paper...
Peterff wrote:
You mean like "Ici le jeune Anglais avec son sang froid habituelle"
Meaning "Here is the young Englishman with his usual bloody cold!"
Err.. No one implied the guy had a cold.
And no to the first.
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