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Dec 21, 2016 10:42:23   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
It depends. Do you REALY have to purchase NEW? Buy a refurbished or used lens. You can get the Nikkor 1.4 for about $50 to $100 more than the 1.8. If you are THAT concerned by the difference in cost versus quality, build and performance, then maybe you DO need to buy the f/1.8. But, if that is the case, then why ask others to justify your purchase. If you are serious about your equipment and want something that will allow you to eliminate the excuse of "well, its the best my lens would do" then fine, save the money and get the f/1.8 but don't ask for advice on which one to choose. If you don't like the advice then don't ask for it. Money isn't the ONLY difference in these two lenses. Are we comparing a G lens to a D lens? Auto focus to manual? Yes, on NEW lenses the price is high, but, you can get great used lenses for good prices. I got a Nikkor 50mm 1.4 lens in "A+ condition" for $120 dollars from B&H. They also have refurbished lenses and All have some kind of warranty.

Note: my prices are all in American dollars.
By the way DaveO, part of the difference is that I earn my living with my lenses. I consider my lenses to be an investment and not just a whim. However, the difference in the quality of glass and build offsets the more expensive price.
It depends. Do you REALY have to purchase NEW? Bu... (show quote)


Just to be clear, I am not the one seeking lens advice at this time. I was simply trying to point out that the OP,as well as many others,would not gain any real advantage in spending extra money for a 1.4 over a 1.8. The OP was talking about G lenses and most likely is not a pro,nor am I. Personally,the 1.8's are fine for my limited use of them. I have the 35,50 and 85 1.8's and for my use they are fine. Normally I use my 24-70 or 70-200 2.8's and on rare occasion a 105 2.8. Again, I am not disparaging the 1.4's and many could not tell the difference.

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Dec 21, 2016 10:43:39   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Mac wrote:
He says he likes to shoot landscape and street at night, so that extra may be of help to him in that type of photography.
I agree with what you say about "the average Guy", I have the f/1.4 and for me the f/1.8 would be fine, but in his shooting preference the f/1.4 may be better for him.



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Dec 21, 2016 11:37:46   #
Larry L56 Loc: NE Ohio
 
I like my 1.4 D but it lacks contrast and sharpness, like most, wide open. So I generally shoot it at f2 and beyond. The 1.8 cleans up a stop slower or so. The 1.4 is also a little better for low light focusing since it is wide open just before the shutter hits.

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Dec 21, 2016 19:30:27   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
DaveO wrote:
Just to be clear, I am not the one seeking lens advice at this time. I was simply trying to point out that the OP,as well as many others,would not gain any real advantage in spending extra money for a 1.4 over a 1.8. The OP was talking about G lenses and most likely is not a pro,nor am I. Personally,the 1.8's are fine for my limited use of them. I have the 35,50 and 85 1.8's and for my use they are fine. Normally I use my 24-70 or 70-200 2.8's and on rare occasion a 105 2.8. Again, I am not disparaging the 1.4's and many could not tell the difference.
Just to be clear, I am not the one seeking lens ad... (show quote)


Sorry, I understand but was mainly giving my logic for the better designed lens. I have a couple of "kit" lenses and I have had to purchase better lenses to work around their "guess and almost there focusing". The 70-300 is not only inaccurate focusing but has a horrid 4.5-5.6 aperture. So, you either go to a high ISO or slow shutter speed (or both) to get any low to average light shots. If your shooting at or near 300mm you better be on a tripod shooting a stationary object or be in partly to bright sun. I tend to rely on my "much" more expensive 80-400mm lens 4.5-5.6 with VR but is a much heavier and larger diameter lens and gives me better shots across the spectrum. If I need a good low light lens, I put the 50mm on my D7100 (which gives the angle of view of (roughly) 75mm lens on an FX but a 1.4 f/stop. I can shoot in at ISO 100 or 200 and decent hand held speeds or bump my ISO up to 500 if the action or light requires it. The other thing I get with an f/1.4 is a tighter depth of field (slightly). Mainly it is choice.

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Dec 21, 2016 21:14:45   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 

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Dec 21, 2016 22:00:05   #
BebuLamar
 
DaveO wrote:
Why would the average guy waste his money on a 1.4 in lieu of a 1.8? Most could not tell the difference and fewer would be shooting wide open all the time even if there were a big difference. Two thirds of a stop??


I never shoot wide open so there isn't a difference between the f/1.4 vs f/1.8 except for a bit brighter viewfinder but I don't notice it. However, I don't want the f/1.8 lens. I rather have the f/1.4 or f/2.0 lens as I hate the in between stop.

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Dec 22, 2016 05:59:25   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Ikonomos wrote:
Hi,
I can't make up my mind on what to buy.
Nikon 50mm G 1.8 @$299
Nikon 35mm G 1.8 @ $ 650 ( used )
Nikkor 23mm @ $295 (Used)
All in Australian dollars.
I am looking for a light weight lens to carry around all day on my 610, for street & landscape photography, occasionally with people included.
I need it to be fast also as I like shooting the above in low light & at night, both indoors & out.
I also have a limited budget of under $1000.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Hi, br I can't make up my mind on what to buy. b... (show quote)


I'm wondering where you got that price for a used 35mm. Amazon will sell you a new one for under $200.
https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-AF-S-NIKKOR-Focus-Cameras/dp/B001S2PPT0

Of the lenses on your list, I would get the 50mm, under $200 here.

do you mean a Nikkor 20mm?

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Dec 22, 2016 06:02:35   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DaveO wrote:
Just to be clear, I am not the one seeking lens advice at this time. I was simply trying to point out that the OP,as well as many others,would not gain any real advantage in spending extra money for a 1.4 over a 1.8. The OP was talking about G lenses and most likely is not a pro,nor am I. Personally,the 1.8's are fine for my limited use of them. I have the 35,50 and 85 1.8's and for my use they are fine. Normally I use my 24-70 or 70-200 2.8's and on rare occasion a 105 2.8. Again, I am not disparaging the 1.4's and many could not tell the difference.
Just to be clear, I am not the one seeking lens ad... (show quote)


Right. The f/1.4 is bigger, heavier, and more expensive for just one stop, yet the f/1.8 takes better pictures.
http://www.adorama.com/alc/0012817/article/gear/photo/50mm-lens-shoot-out-f18-or-f14

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Dec 22, 2016 06:35:37   #
par4fore Loc: Bay Shore N.Y.
 
Ikonomos wrote:
Hi,
I can't make up my mind on what to buy.
Nikon 50mm G 1.8 @$299
Nikon 35mm G 1.8 @ $ 650 ( used )
Nikkor 23mm AF 2.8 @ $295 (Used)
All in Australian dollars.
I am looking for a light weight lens to carry around all day on my 610, for street & landscape photography, occasionally with people included.
I need it to be fast also as I like shooting the above in low light & at night, both indoors & out.
I also have a limited budget of under $1000.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Hi, br I can't make up my mind on what to buy. b... (show quote)



None of those, I would get this one, but I am not saying from this seller. I got mie from a US seller, mint, for $600.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carl-Zeiss-Distagon-T-28mm-F-2-ZF-2-Lens-for-Nikon-Mount-9255C1-/132021245156?hash=item1ebd1454e4:g:qTIAAOSwB09YQRjs

Read about it here. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/662715-REG/Zeiss_1771_844_28mm_f_2_0_Distagon_T.html?_escaped_fragment_=

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Dec 22, 2016 07:05:07   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I never shoot wide open so there isn't a difference between the f/1.4 vs f/1.8 except for a bit brighter viewfinder but I don't notice it. However, I don't want the f/1.8 lens. I rather have the f/1.4 or f/2.0 lens as I hate the in between stop.


Now that's a good reason! Comfort levels are indeed important!

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Dec 22, 2016 07:17:01   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Ikonomos wrote:
Hi,
I can't make up my mind on what to buy.
Nikon 50mm G 1.8 @$299
Nikon 35mm G 1.8 @ $ 650 ( used )
Nikkor 23mm AF 2.8 @ $295 (Used)
All in Australian dollars.
I am looking for a light weight lens to carry around all day on my 610, for street & landscape photography, occasionally with people included.
I need it to be fast also as I like shooting the above in low light & at night, both indoors & out.
I also have a limited budget of under $1000.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Hi, br I can't make up my mind on what to buy. b... (show quote)


If you are asking for my advice I would go with the 24 AND the 50.

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Dec 22, 2016 08:05:47   #
BStrum
 
I'd go with the 23 mm AF Nikkor...plenty of frame information..all croppable as needed. I f I could find a 24 mm f/2.8 AF Nikkor in decent ondition @ a good price for my 7100 i'd grab it up in a NY minute...and use it as my normal lens. I used a 35mm f/2 AI'd Nikkor on my F3 when I shot film.

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Dec 22, 2016 08:11:36   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I would get the 50mm but the 1.4, not the 1.8.
SS


For my money, and camera, only the Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D but... get one of Japan manufacture. A few years ago they shifted to China.

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Dec 22, 2016 08:15:26   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Ikonomos wrote:
Hi,
I can't make up my mind on what to buy.
Nikon 50mm G 1.8 @$299
Nikon 35mm G 1.8 @ $ 650 ( used )
Nikkor 23mm AF 2.8 @ $295 (Used)
All in Australian dollars.
I am looking for a light weight lens to carry around all day on my 610, for street & landscape photography, occasionally with people included.
I need it to be fast also as I like shooting the above in low light & at night, both indoors & out.
I also have a limited budget of under $1000.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Hi, br I can't make up my mind on what to buy. b... (show quote)



Street photography: Nikon 35mm 1.4

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Dec 22, 2016 08:22:58   #
ecurb1105
 
35mm is the classic Street photographers lens. The whole f1.4 or f1.8 is a throwback tp the low iso Kodachrome era, not necessary in this digital ers

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