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Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

Don't even consider the D700 go for either the D7000 or if you have the money then the D800, bigger and heavier but a great camera. If there is to be a D600 and you can wait, then go for that and use the extra money you were going to spend on the D800, to buy yourself some nice lenses for the D600.

Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA

Lucian wrote:

Don't even consider the D700 go for either the D7000 or if you have the money then the D800, bigger and heavier but a great camera. If there is to be a D600 and you can wait, then go for that and use the extra money you were going to spend on the D800, to buy yourself some nice lenses for the D600.

Good advise. You can spend 1200.00 for a top of the line receiver and buy 50.00 worth of speakers and get crappy sound. Same with cameras. A less expensive body and money spent on a top lens will give you much better photos than buying a 3000.00 body and putting a 200.00 lens on it.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

Though I don't argue with getting quality lens, I do argue with less quality body. Just like taking a good picture is a matter of balancing aperture, shutter speed and ISO, so is the same with the camera. A cheaper body on a good lens can have the same effect as a good body with a cheaper lens. The body's main components are its sensor and processor, as an example some can handle high ISO at lower noise and others cannot. My take is buy the best bodies you can afford then save and skimp for the best lens. If you buy a cheap body and best lens you will never be satisfied either and you will at some time look for a better body to match your expensive lens.

Bridges wrote:

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51goldie

Great advice from all of you - thanks. My decision has yet to be fully made but I am squirrelling all this advice and info away for decision time. It's great that you are all so helpful - thank you again.

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

If you choose to go one way, always go with a cheaper body and better lenses. I have the D7000 and D300 and Fuji S5 PRO and the low noise and high ISO is the best on the D7000. Considering you can get the same guts in the much lower priced D5100 as my D7000 there is nothing wrong with "That" cheaper body.

You get the same excellent sensor etc, just not the better body, so with good lenses you will get better images than going with an expensive body and cheap lenses every time. Todays cheaper bodies are not like 5 years ago type cheaper bodies.

And another thing, later on when you have the funds, you are only buying one better body to upgrade your kit. By going with an expensive body and cheap lenses, you will have a far higher cost to move up to better lenses at a later time, than just the cost of one body. So don't listen to advice about a better body and cheap lenses, that is false economy.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

D800-$3000
Nikkor 24-70mm 2.8 - $1,888
Nikkor 70-200mm 2.8 - $2,645

D7000-$1,092
Nikkor 18-200mm 3.5 - $900

Incompatible on lens if he decides to go to an D800 in the future after purchasing the D7000.

Lucian wrote:

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Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

You can use lenses on the D7000 such as the 70-200VR f-2.8 and also use these on something full frame too like the D800, I have this lens and it works perfectly well on my D7000 and will work on a D800.

Therefore, buy better lenses that are suited to a full frame camera and use them on something like the D7000 or maybe the new D600 when it arrives (if) and this person will be fine. No need to limit yourself to only DX lenses if you plan to go to full frame later on.

I don't understand why you only suggested a DX lens in your suggestions above, for a D7000 body. Or maybe you did not realize that you can use a lens like the 70-200VR f2.8 on both a D800 and a D7000. Need to do your home work so as not to misinform someone.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

On the D7000 the lens has a factor of 1.5 making it a 105-300mm.

Lucian wrote:

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Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

Brucej67 wrote:
"On the D7000 the lens has a factor of 1.5 making it a 105-300mm."

And your point is...????

I believe we all know this fact Bruce and if it was a Canon DX camera body it would be a factor of 1.6 so what is your point in your comment please?

We were discussing what lenses work on both DX and full frame cameras. Of course DX cameras have a different mm range for a particular mm setting than a full frame, that is common knowledge.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

The point is it is a diffrent mm range and if you check it out the going from DX to FX on the D800 will not work well and reduce the D800 to a 16MP camera.

Lucian wrote:

Brucej67 wrote:
"On the D7000 the lens has a factor of 1.5 making it a 105-300mm."

And your point is...????

I believe we all know this fact Bruce and if it was a Canon DX camera body it would be a factor of 1.6 so what is your point in your comment please?

We were discussing what lenses work on both DX and full frame cameras. Of course DX cameras have a different mm range for a particular mm setting than a full frame, that is common knowledge.

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

ummm no. From what I understand the 70-200mm VR f2.8 is not a DX lens and will work fine on both full frame a DX camera bodies. Albeit with different mm ranges in the lens between full and DX of course.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

We are saying the same thing; the only difference between the FX on the DX is the MM. I prefer on my D7000 to have a lens that matches the format and on my D800 a lens that matches that format in MM, giving me an equal spread on both cameras.

Lucian wrote:

ummm no. From what I understand the 70-200mm VR f2.8 is not a DX lens and will work fine on both full frame a DX camera bodies. Albeit with different mm ranges in the lens between full and DX of course.